The Israeli/Hamas conflict

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

You're saying that the former slaves went to the democrats, because they freed the slaves? Brother, Lincoln, who freed the slaves was a Republican. But I suppose that is a fair misunderstanding, because the Republican party twisted itself into a knot while fucking over the little man to raise their own wealth.


Gladly. I don't think anyone would be opposed to someone preaching 'Don't kill people, regardless of race, gender, age, background or beliefs'

I think you need to slowly read his post again before stating something he didnt say......

[Devo]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

You're saying that the former slaves went to the democrats, because they freed the slaves? Brother, Lincoln, who freed the slaves was a Republican. But I suppose that is a fair misunderstanding, because the Republican party twisted itself into a knot while fucking over the little man to raise their own wealth.


Gladly. I don't think anyone would be opposed to someone preaching 'Don't kill people, regardless of race, gender, age, background or beliefs'

Your highlight proves my point, as, well as the Republicans passed the Civil rights act in the early 60s.

Yet, they still vote majority D today.

You tacitly support Hamas if you think Israel is wrong to fight back against what happened on October 7th.

If you think you would be accepted, I'll wait to hear you publicly come out and state you'd like to go speak with them at Synagogue, please, call the Tribune Review and make your offer public if you feel your words would be greeted with love and affection.

[Charley3]

Seems like Any more, war is a fight of miss information made easier with social media.
A physiologist just lost her job for tearing down posters. She literally said IDF is holding the hostages. I’m no super genius but sure seems unlikely.

[chizzy]

anyone know the hebrew word in the bible for violence?????

gee... it is hamas

to all you trying to pin this on israel and spewing the bullshit

the jews were on this land before there was even a religion called islam
all of this land, the gaza, west bank all of it, so shove your talk of the palastinians being there first

[1pittsburgh]

What happened 2000 years ago is highly debatable, but what is not debatable is that after WWII, the COUNTRY Israel was formed, many Europeans migrated there, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their homes in the Nakba, and many more have lost their homes since then.



What's also not debatable is that several hundred members of Hamas committed heinous acts on October 7th, killing over 1200 mostly civilian Israelis, and since then, Israel has used that to justify the heinous act of killing over 11,000 mostly civilian Palestinians, and to justify destroying the homes of up to 40% of the Palestinians.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

What happened 2000 years ago is highly debatable, but what is not debatable is that after WWII, the COUNTRY Israel was formed, many Europeans migrated there, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their homes in the Nakba, and many more have lost their homes since then.



What's also not debatable is that several hundred members of Hamas committed heinous acts on October 7th, killing over 1200 mostly civilian Israelis, and since then, Israel has used that to justify the heinous act of killing over 11,000 mostly civilian Palestinians, and to justify destroying the homes of up to 40% of the Palestinians.

All correct. But ask yourself, if Mexico was run by terrorists and these terrorists came over our border and raped, killed and held hostage 1500 of our citizens(including BABIES!), who wouldn’t want to exact enough revenge to try to stop it from happening again? Very difficult to fight a lawless group of terrorists with traditional military means.
Even worse is Hamas wants nothing to do with a two state compromise.
Having said that I agree Israel should never have happened.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

What happened 2000 years ago is highly debatable, but what is not debatable is that after WWII, the COUNTRY Israel was formed, many Europeans migrated there, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians lost their homes in the Nakba, and many more have lost their homes since then.



What's also not debatable is that several hundred members of Hamas committed heinous acts on October 7th, killing over 1200 mostly civilian Israelis, and since then, Israel has used that to justify the heinous act of killing over 11,000 mostly civilian Palestinians, and to justify destroying the homes of up to 40% of the Palestinians.

what's heinous? this


Hollywood screening of 'Bearing Witness' showing graphic Hamas attack sparks controversy: What to know

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...222918947.html


On Wednesday, Nov. 8, the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles held a private screening of Bearing Witness to the October 7th Massacre. The 43-minute film compiles raw footage showing the gruesome acts of violence perpetrated by Hamas militants against Israeli civilians during surprise attacks last month. While the film played, tensions flared outside the museum, where, as captured in video footage posted online, Los Angeles police intervened to separate clashing groups of pro-Palestine and pro-Israel demonstrators.


Here’s everything to know about the controversial film, its Hollywood screening and the involvement of Wonder Woman star Gal Gadot.


Hamas did everything Israel claims they did and there is proof because these batshit crazy fanatical terrorist arabs documented it all.


what Hamas did was barbaric and unjustified in every way. what Israel is doing is measured and civilized. even if their opponent isn't.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Charley3

All correct. But ask yourself, if Mexico was run by terrorists and these terrorists came over our border and raped, killed and held hostage 1500 of our citizens(including BABIES!), who wouldn’t want to exact enough revenge to try to stop it from happening again? Very difficult to fight a lawless group of terrorists with traditional military means.
Even worse is Hamas wants nothing to do with a two state compromise.
Having said that I agree Israel should never have happened.

I certainly would not want to kill 12,000 mostly civilian Mexicans, including over 4000 children. I wouldn't want purposely to cut off electricity and water to the civilian hospitals. ETC


Mods, please note that this is an analogy made by Charley and myself as to what is going on in Palestine. It's 100% on topic.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what's heinous? this


Hollywood screening of 'Bearing Witness' showing graphic Hamas attack sparks controversy: What to know

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...222918947.html


On Wednesday, Nov. 8, the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles held a private screening of Bearing Witness to the October 7th Massacre. The 43-minute film compiles raw footage showing the gruesome acts of violence perpetrated by Hamas militants against Israeli civilians during surprise attacks last month. While the film played, tensions flared outside the museum, where, as captured in video footage posted online, Los Angeles police intervened to separate clashing groups of pro-Palestine and pro-Israel demonstrators.


Here’s everything to know about the controversial film, its Hollywood screening and the involvement of Wonder Woman star Gal Gadot.


Hamas did everything Israel claims they did and there is proof because these batshit crazy fanatical terrorist arabs documented it all.


what Hamas did was barbaric and unjustified in every way. what Israel is doing is measured and civilized. even if their opponent isn't.

Who in this thread is claiming that Hamas didn't do what Israel claims they did?


Of course what Israel's doing is measured. It's measured in abundance, to kill as many Palestinians as they can. If they could get away with completely eradicating the Palestinian people they would, but the world is waking up. The people of the world are showing their support in abundance to the Palestinians.



As for civilized? It's telling that you think killing 12,000+ mostly innocent Palestinians, including 4000+ children is civilized, that you think that cutting off water, electricity, etc. to civilian hospitals is civilized, and that you think destroying more than 40% of Palestinian homes is civilized. By definition, that is terrorism.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by 1pittsburgh

Who in this thread is claiming that Hamas didn't do what Israel claims they did?


Of course what Israel's doing is measured. It's measured in abundance, to kill as many Palestinians as they can. If they could get away with completely eradicating the Palestinian people they would, but the world is waking up. The people of the world are showing their support in abundance to the Palestinians.



As for civilized? It's telling that you think killing 12,000+ mostly innocent Palestinians, including 4000+ children is civilized, that you think that cutting off water, electricity, etc. to civilian hospitals is civilized, and that you think destroying more than 40% of Palestinian homes is civilized. By definition, that is terrorism.

HAMAS, was elected by their own people in Gaza, and, sometimes you get exactly what you voted for.

I just made the exact same statement about NYC and the Mayor begging for the rich to step in pay for the costs associated with the illegal immigrants that are overunning the city.

I watched Palestinians dancing in the streets after 911, when the BIG Satan finally got theirs, and, I'm sure quite a few were dancing when Little Satan got theirs on October 7th.

When, you face crazed people, as we did in WW2, with the Japanese, chaining pilots into their planes, and packing them full of explosives to Kamikazee into our ships, or, with the Nazis who did their best to kill Jews, Homosexuals, and the other hated groups, you have to either fundamentally change the society that created such a monstrous entity, or eridicate it from the face of the earth.

That occurs either by total destruction, Dresden, Hiroshima, for example, or, the complete eradication of the power structure that allows it to exist, and the minds of the people have to be torn away from their past actions, with the remaining people who survive so traumatized, they will never repeat those actions again.

And that is EXACTLY what we did, and both those nations have learned forever, well, at least for now, that going down that path again, is insanity.

Gaza, the Palestinians and Hammas are the Nazis, or the Imperial Japanese Government, and Israel has learned the lesson again, that only completely removing the cancer is the only way to save a sick society, or, to let the society die, and disappear from the face of the earth for ever.

This is where we are today, I have no sympathy for the same people who danced while other Americans and Israeli Jews "Got theirs".

Fuck them, let them blast every building off the face of the earth in Gaza, then salt the fields, and maybe then, Islam, and its hatred of all other religions will understand, that this isn't just words in a book, its real, and your hatred and killing has consequences.

[chizzy]

It has already been shown Hamas used the hospitals as a cover, they showed the underground tunnels and weapons stashed in the hospital.

[chizzy]

Yes the Palestinians deserve support
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzdsK...RlODBiNWFlZA==

[Devo]

OK Palestinian supporters, read the article, and don't comment unti you have.

I don't want to paste quotes but I will....


https://www.foxnews.com/world/israel...was-systematic

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Devo

HAMAS, was elected by their own people in Gaza, and, sometimes you get exactly what you voted for.

I just made the exact same statement about NYC and the Mayor begging for the rich to step in pay for the costs associated with the illegal immigrants that are overunning the city.

I watched Palestinians dancing in the streets after 911, when the BIG Satan finally got theirs, and, I'm sure quite a few were dancing when Little Satan got theirs on October 7th.

When, you face crazed people, as we did in WW2, with the Japanese, chaining pilots into their planes, and packing them full of explosives to Kamikazee into our ships, or, with the Nazis who did their best to kill Jews, Homosexuals, and the other hated groups, you have to either fundamentally change the society that created such a monstrous entity, or eridicate it from the face of the earth.

That occurs either by total destruction, Dresden, Hiroshima, for example, or, the complete eradication of the power structure that allows it to exist, and the minds of the people have to be torn away from their past actions, with the remaining people who survive so traumatized, they will never repeat those actions again.

And that is EXACTLY what we did, and both those nations have learned forever, well, at least for now, that going down that path again, is insanity.

Gaza, the Palestinians and Hammas are the Nazis, or the Imperial Japanese Government, and Israel has learned the lesson again, that only completely removing the cancer is the only way to save a sick society, or, to let the society die, and disappear from the face of the earth for ever.

This is where we are today, I have no sympathy for the same people who danced while other Americans and Israeli Jews "Got theirs".

Fuck them, let them blast every building off the face of the earth in Gaza, then salt the fields, and maybe then, Islam, and its hatred of all other religions will understand, that this isn't just words in a book, its real, and your hatred and killing has consequences.

Hamas was elected by a narrow margin in 2007 and hasn't allowed another election since then. So you think civilians deserve to die because of who they vote for one time? You know who agrees with you? A very famous Jihadist who died in 2011.

[1pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by chizzy

It has already been shown Hamas used the hospitals as a cover, they showed the underground tunnels and weapons stashed in the hospital.

So to you that justifies killing thousands of children, and cutting off electricity, and water to the hospital, so that other innocent people are dying due to lack of care? If innocent people you cared about were standing between you and a bad guy would you shoot them to get to the bad guy? Is cared about the key word here? Do you just not care about the innocent Palestinian people?