Comments: Women Faking It

[Guest083011]

A few months ago I had a provider fake it. And it was a HDH too so I was a bit miffed about it. She's a nice person and all, but it really took away from the total experience (certainly for me and I suspect that she was concerned about her travel home and hour [not that late actually] so she just couldn't "get into me").

Conversely I saw a woman who I have had a great time before but hadn't seen in over a year, this past Friday (yesterday). She and I had a spectacular time. If she was faking it she deserved an Academy Award. And that would be faking hyper sensitivity, too. It was so much fun. She had come out my way and booked a room for just my appointment, so from a P/L point of view it wasn't great. And was less than half the amount I paid for the HDH who faked it.

I accept that sometimes things don't click, but faking it so one can get a full fee still kind of tweaks me. No I did not mention it to the HDH, good manners and all that.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by SR Only

A few months ago I had a provider fake it. And it was a HDH too so I was a bit miffed about it.....

Conversely I saw a woman who I have had a great time before but hadn't seen in over a year, this past Friday (yesterday). She and I had a spectacular time. If she was faking it she deserved an Academy Award.

I was once with a provider who was so over the top with the phony porno talk that i couldn't maintain an erection. I didn't review her because she's otherwise well reviewed and i just assumed my negative feelings towards the experience were due simply to my own personal preferences. So yeah, i know where you're coming from.

Perhaps i should have added the caveat that if she can't do it in a manner that's relatively plausible, then no, she shouldn't do it.

[Tiffani Jameson]

I would have to say that it's about the lady's mindset, her physicality, and the situation, both in civvie and hobby relationships.

You take a lady who's open to a good time, she will have no reason to fake it. But, if she has a hard time achieving orgasms there could be nothing that can be done. In a civvie fling, if you're horrible then she will make no effort to contact you for a second date. In the hobby, if a lady makes herself available on short notice, with minimal screening, there is always that awkwardness. 'Take off your clothes, let me touch your Johnson'. But if a guy just makes you feel good, that can't be faked. You may not get a real personality in her performance, but either you're hitting the spots or you're not.

If her mind is geared toward seeking a potential partner or SO, she will take the time to date you and get to know you before the awkwardness of having sex too early ruins things. When two people who see each other in a different light finally see that the time is right for intimacy, it's usually a beautiful thing. Same thing with the 'hobby'. If she's making time to get to know a potential client before meeting, the actual date is way more calm and friendly. You're less inclined to hold back. Unless that's just her way. I have heard more than once from guys where ladies that charge obscene amounts of money think that's what you're paying for: a version of those soft-core Showtime movies. But to each their own.

The bottom line is that either a lady can achieve an orgasm with you or she can't. It's not all up to her.

[Sydneyb]

Originally Posted by SR Only

A few months ago I had a provider fake it. And it was a HDH too so I was a bit miffed about it. She's a nice person and all, but it really took away from the total experience.

Originally Posted by SR Only

If she was faking it she deserved an Academy Award. And that would be faking hyper sensitivity, too. .

you know we know about that part of an orgasm too, right? If she's faking an orgasm with any plausibility, shes doing it right through to the end....

Originally Posted by SR Only

I accept that sometimes things don't click, but faking it so one can get a full fee still kind of tweaks me.

Are you saying that if a woman doesn't have an orgasm she loses some of her fee?


I don't know of even one woman (civvie and otherwise) that hasn't faked it a time or two. Its stupid, you teach 'em all wrong that way - better to show him how you like it and not condition him to things that aren't working for you....that said, I can attest - as have a couple of friends, that even when faking it, they can get genuinely turned on; sometimes by the noises and physical reaction to hightened sexuality.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

You take a lady who's open to a good time, she will have no reason to fake it. ..... Same thing with the 'hobby'. If she's making time to get to know a potential client before meeting, the actual date is way more calm and friendly.

Agreed. The young lady I saw Friday was in that mode as was I. Granted we kissed when I walked in the door and didn't let go of each other until our departing kisses (I think I'm still swooning over it).

Originally Posted by Sydneyb

Are you saying that if a woman doesn't have an orgasm she loses some of her fee?

Sydney, yes that does come across as harsh (and I wasn't even PWI). In hindsight, I would think she was faking it to make sure I "had a good time," as opposed to revenue generation. I think she is probably that kind of person (caring-kind). Unfortunately, the end result was less than stellar (for the both of us I'd imagine). I will say at one point I paid attention to one part of her body (not a private part or breasts) and she remarked something to the effect of "oh you're one of those." And that wasn't a happy comment. I'd say about 90% of those that I do this to are extremely receptive and have had them almost reach orgasm as I do it. That one remark did a lot of damage to the overall experience. Sigh. As I said, sometimes stuff doesn't click. My recent friend more than made up for it.

[Laurentius]

Originally Posted by China Doll

You did wonderfully! Now, I would like to see you and Laurentius fight over me. 1, 2, 3, GO!

(*chuckle*) I dunno about fighting, but I gotta say it's pretty obvious that all parties concerned have good taste! (*grin*)

[Laurentius]

Originally Posted by Sydneyb

you know we know about that part of an orgasm too, right? If she's faking an orgasm with any plausibility, shes doing it right through to the end....

As about a third of women overall are anorgasmic, I'd guess that something around that percentage of providers are also anorgasmic. Since, according to reviews, 100% of providers are orgasmic; I would suspect that at a bare minimum a third are faking it. (*grin*) As only 29% of women report orgasm for everytime they have sex, and again seeing providers as women, it makes sense that a lot of provider orgasms are faked.

Convincing faking is absolutely doable, but it can be hard to fool some guys.

While orgasm varies to some degree between women, it can be classified as an autonomic response in which the conscious mind plays a role in allowing it (or not allowing it) to happen. Some of the details -- such as number of contractions -- will vary with the woman and circumstance. But there are certain commonalities.

1. Frequency of contractions is 0.8 sec. For all women. Reaction times being what they are, when the reaction required to volitionally contract the lower third of the vagina is added to the reaction time to note that it occurred (feedback) are added, it is just barely possible for a woman with superb powers of concentration to pull it off. Someone who can sense timing as second nature -- such as a musician -- will recognize the 75bpm rhythm. A common song to that beat is Missy Elliot's "Swat dat fly" featuring Timbaland.

A lady who practices faking a lot can pull this off through what I call "automation." Sort of like playing drums, you have already committed to your next move before the first one is completed. Just don't get carried away as too many contractions (more than 15) might raise an eyebrow.

2. Anal sphincter contracts simultaneously at the same time. Attention to detail! If a lady leaves that out, a guy might notice.

3. The uterus contracts too. I am not sure if uterine contractions are under volitional control; but they can be sensed by a guy whose hand is above the mound of venus, if he is stretching the skin a bit and applying gentle pressure. So if the uterine contractions are under volitional control, a lady shouldn't forget that. Otherwise, the guy might notice.

3. Again only noticed if the guy has his fingers in there, but vaginal congestion disappears within *seconds* after a real orgasm; but will continue for a full 20-30 minutes otherwise. The vagina is not humongous. In an unaroused state it is only about 4" long. The congestion is in the upper 2/3rds of the vagina -- which is in reach of the fingers. The easing of congestion is noticeable by having more space. I doubt this can be faked by anyone but a yogi.

4. Tachycardia. A lot of people can self-induce tachycardia so by itself it is not a tell-tale of the real deal. But it's absence is a definite tell-tale sign of faking. You can expect a heart rate exceeding 80% of max heart rate. Pulse can be taken by pressing on the inner thigh. As blood pressure also increases, it should be easily ascertained.

5. Rate of detumescence of the clitoris. If an orgasm was real, clitoral tumescence is lost in minutes. Otherwise, it takes several hours. Easily ascertained unless the lady clothes herself immediately after sex.

6. While it is certainly possible, it is very unusual for a woman to reach orgasm in less than 10 minutes due to oral stimulation. So a woman who has an orgasm after 30 seconds is 99.999% likely faking. LOL

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

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1. Frequency of contractions is 0.8 sec. For all women. Reaction times being what they are, when the reaction required to volitionally contract the lower third of the vagina is added to the reaction time to note that it occurred (feedback) are added, it is just barely possible for a woman with superb powers of concentration to pull it off. Someone who can sense timing as second nature -- such as a musician -- will recognize the 75bpm rhythm. A common song to that beat is Missy Elliot's "Swat dat fly" featuring Timbaland.

A lady who practices faking a lot can pull this off through what I call "automation." Sort of like playing drums, you have already committed to your next move before the first one is completed. Just don't get carried away as too many contractions (more than 15) might raise an eyebrow.

2. Anal sphincter contracts simultaneously at the same time. Attention to detail! If a lady leaves that out, a guy might notice.

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6. While it is certainly possible, it is very unusual for a woman to reach orgasm in less than 10 minutes due to oral stimulation. So a woman who has an orgasm after 30 seconds is 99.999% likely faking. LOL

Actually contracting the vaginal muscles while contracting the “inner” sphincter can cause an orgasm to take off for me. Muscle control is a wonderful thing . Keep in mind though that not all orgasms screaming, back scratching endeavors, but really, all things equal, any orgasm is a good orgasm.

Agreed on #6. Instant orgasms are by and large fake orgasams. Sometimes though…………..

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

any orgasm is a good orgasm.

Word!

[Sisyphus]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Actually contracting the vaginal muscles while contracting the “inner” [COLOR=black]sphincter can cause an orgasm to take off for me. Muscle control is a wonderful thing . Keep in mind though that not all orgasms screaming, back scratching endeavors, but really, all things equal, any orgasm is a good orgasm.

Take me to your leader....

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Instant orgasms are by and large fake orgasams. Sometimes though…………..[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR]

I once had a lover who under the right circumstances could orgasm almost instantly, say within a minute, maybe two of getting started.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

I once had a lover who under the right circumstances could orgasm almost instantly, say within a minute, maybe two of getting started.

Whether you were in the room or not?

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Whether you were in the room or not?

[Camille]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Whether you were in the room or not?

You are SO cheeky PJ

xx

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by Camille

You are SO cheeky PJ

xx

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