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ICU 812 · 10-05-2022, 05:41 AM

With all the above advice regarding a relationship with an Independent Provider out there now:

Have you thought about a Sugar Daddy/Sigar Baby relationship? A genuine Sugar Baby, say a thirty something single m om with financial worries may be who you are looking for. With the right pitch, you won't make her feel that she is a prostitute. The regularly scheduled sessions should be much less than weekly sessions with a regular provider.

With the right combination of well met mutual needs and a good bit of luck, this could morph into a spousal relationship, formal or common law.

Keep in mind that no relationship os free olf money issues. No woman wikll trade intimacy for nothing. If not a provider, she will be looking for more permanency and security . . .and a feeling that you really do care about her (and her kids).

Is that what yopu want?

Ripmany · 10-05-2022, 12:43 PM

I found most will give out there real number, after see you and know you not a cop, game player, thugh, but many don't pay phone bill so real number may change the need money other stuff.

BLM69 · 10-05-2022, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripmany

I found most will give out there real number, after see you and know you not a cop, game player, thugh, but many don't pay phone bill so real number may change the need money other stuff.

Crazy how low Men go just for some pussy, I look at the whores I fuck and think to myself , I would never take any of them to meet my family 😆, I do love filing them up though

Pangolier · 10-05-2022, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by regalbeagal43

So I'd like to get the opinions of the providers and the hobbyists who have entered into relationships or atleast more than hobbying relationships.

I just found a provider and we have dynamite chemistry. Like 1 in 100.... I'm also quite attracted to her both physically and emotionally. I think she's atleast attracted to me physically, and I'd bet there are some genuine feelings as well.

The provider I'm seeing does this very part time. 1 day a week or maybe 2-3 days a month. And only 1 client a day or possibly 1-2.

Anyhow - I'd like to setup a regular visit with her, but she's off her phone or email 99% of the time. So a reply will come 3-5 days later. I know it shouldn't bother me, but it bothers me lol.....

We've talked about setting up regular stuff but she works in a restaurant and they have crazy hours / shifts etc. I don't want to burden her or make her feel like I'm pressuring her in any way.

I think the simpler solution would be to ask for her real phone number just to have access for scheduling - but it's still new and I don't want to cross a bridge that she's not ready for.

So providers - I'd love to get your opinion or stories on this.

Hobbyists - let me know if you've gone down that road, how did it turn out and what are some landmines I should avoid.

Thanks so much!

The more in advance you schedule, the more likely a woman can accommodate. Some girls don't even offer same day appointments, unless you contact them at like 10 AM and ask for a 11 PM meeting, that at least gives you a 12 hour possibility. Others have "available now" ads, but this woman certainly doesn't sounds like one of those.

If you are really inclined, you could ask for her personal number, but don't be surprised if she says no. You could also ask if there's another way you could reach her faster, such as by an app or email that notifies her personal phone.

As for getting personally involved... Let me put it this way: While I've only had 1 case where it ended very badly, I've never had any case where it worked out well or favorable for both of us. I had one case where it ended somewhat badly, though not nearly as badly as the first scenario I described.

Then I had another case where I was significantly involved in this woman's personal life, then she went and accepted a marriage proposal from some guy about a year after giving birth to a baby, who may or may not have been the son of the guy. Anyway, not long after getting engaged, she went completely silent on me and stopped responding. While not necessarily nefarious, it would have been a lot more polite if she just took 30 seconds to tell me "Hey XXX, as much as I like you, I don't think my new husband would like it if he asks me who I was talking to on that call I just got off, and I responded by saying 'Oh just a friend and former sexual partner of mine" While I understand her reasoning for ghosting me, she could have at least taken the time to say goodbye.

You have to remember, that while this does not apply to ALL of the girls in this industry, the great majority of them are very self centered individuals with a propensity to tell lies. Many are very arrogant, and volatile when it comes to their decision making. Ever heard the expression "Like vanilla one day, but chocolate the next?" Again, this does not apply to all of them, but if you are looking for the few that it doesn't, that's like trying to find an ant on a large mountain. I've seen over 50 in a time span of more than 15 years... And right now I only distinctly recall 2 who didn't fit the above criteria. I've met a few new ones within the past couple of years, but haven't known them long enough to definitively say that they don't match the status quo.

Of course, most of the girls would probably just turn the sword the other direction and accuse the majority of guys of being shallow and crude, which often times is true as well, though not always.

ICU 812 · 10-06-2022, 05:14 AM

In my case, the opportunities to get out and hobby are few and separated ikn time. I have got to either schedule in advance or walk-in at an AMP.

BLM69 · 10-07-2022, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ICU 812

In my case, the opportunities to get out and hobby are few and separated ikn time. I have got to either schedule in advance or walk-in at an AMP.

You need to find some non pros and have their contact info handy, too many hurdles to schedule anything last mins.on hobby sites these days

SomeRandomGuy88 · 10-11-2022, 07:47 AM

Avoid, avoid, avoid.

If she’s nice, she will let you down gently as I’m sure it’s not the first or last time someone will proposition her to be their girlfriend. The evil ones will go along with it to suck you dry and not in a fun way. Look up the psychology of pair bonding. The more sexual partners, the less attachment which means a higher likelihood of divorce, infidelity, etc. You want to be with someone who statistically speaking is the least likely to be girlfriend material. The boyfriends of many of these ladies are moochers or career criminals for a reason.

MarcellusWalluz · 10-11-2022, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BLM69

Crazy how low Men go just for some pussy, I look at the whores I fuck and think to myself , I would never take any of them to meet my family 😆, I do love filing them up though

Over the years I've taken several providers on my family vacations with my kids, a few weddings, a couple of family reunions & to several funerals.

BLM69 · 10-11-2022, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcellusWalluz

Over the years I've taken several providers on my family vacations with my kids, a few weddings, a couple of family reunions & to several funerals.

You're a brave lonely Man, most keep their RW activities and family away from hookers

GolfNut6372 · 10-11-2022, 01:33 PM

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Anyhow - I'd like to setup a regular visit with her, but she's off her phone or email 99% of the time. So a reply will come 3-5 days later. I know it shouldn't bother me, but it bothers me lol.....

We've talked about setting up regular stuff but she works in a restaurant and they have crazy hours / shifts etc. I don't want to burden her or make her feel like I'm pressuring her in any way.

One wonders if she's already taking steps to keep you at arm's length. If only there were some clues...............

FireKitten · 10-12-2022, 12:55 AM

Abort. Yes, people do get closer here, and often with not great results.

But she isn't making the effort. The lady more often gets to choose, on who she might want to be closer with, and at this point, you aren't in that circle. If she wanted something more, she'd make it happen and be more available to you. You are not where you think you are---

SomeRandomGuy88 · 10-12-2022, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GolfNut6372

One wonders if she's already taking steps to keep you at arm's length. If only there were some clues...............

This is a great point. OP, sounds like she’s made her thoughts known on this subject.

Flavor Gave · 10-12-2022, 11:28 PM

Catch flights not feelings.

Sunshine Lovely · 10-13-2022, 04:31 AM

She probably doesn't want to give out her personal number for a reason especially if she only does this once in a while, wouldn't want men in the hobby contacting her main phone. Also, girls in this industry aren't looking to be in relationships. If we were we wouldn't be on hooker websites. Sometimes though clients can turn into friends ( with benefits ) but it's not what we're sought after. Maybe if you get lucky...

BLM69 · 10-13-2022, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunshine Lovely

She probably doesn't want to give out her personal number for a reason especially if she only does this once in a while, wouldn't want men in the hobby contacting her main phone. Also, girls in this industry aren't looking to be in relationships. If we were we wouldn't be on hooker websites. Sometimes though clients can turn into friends ( with benefits ) but it's not what we're sought after. Maybe if you get lucky...

From what I've learned being in the hobby nearly 20 years and getting to know a lot of different hookers,.also reading lots of post, MOST that do this hate Men in general,, maybe let down by personal relationships, but fail to understand that without a Man, they wouldn't survive $. So we're screwed gentlemen......