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Old 12-12-2018, 03:26 PM   #16
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Good it would help me and many others sleep at night
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:43 AM   #17
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Good question. Do some members here knowingly or unknowingly support trafficking? If you search the word Rotasian here I think you'd be hard pressed to believe some members don't have a clue.
I think most know and dont care because its cheap and convenient. Clients as a whole are smart people.

I dont think anyone encourages sex trafficking on eccie but theres a lot of burying your head in the sand when it comes to certain things...
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:06 AM   #18
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I think almost any guy here, regardless of price point, would avoid dealing with any girl he did not think was doing this willingly. I do think some don’t pay attention and catch on to lies when they should, though.
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:29 PM   #19
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Yes I mean,I know some who do it to support their boyfriend's and that is the first sign of it
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:31 PM   #20
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Yes when you see something wrong though, what really are the signs?
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:15 PM   #21
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That's subjective and would take several hours to try explain as frequently civie problems are mistaken.
The data is avail on internet.
That said, I can still spot a two legged hotel lobby rat rather quickly as I still consult on hotel operations.

But wrong is wrong, regardless of pro date or civie crap
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Old 12-13-2018, 11:55 PM   #22
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Dishonest providers are plentiful and most of the taffikees are brainwashed.Two legged lobby rat?
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Old 12-14-2018, 12:08 AM   #23
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I may be really naive on the definition but I always assumed if a liaison was preplanned and someone was paid to or traveled themselves to pay for meeting they were in the same category. That's why I dont travel. But if that's not it and there's only those who are made to work by another person then the AMPs and "Rotasions" all fall into that category dont they?
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:12 AM   #24
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I may be really naive on the definition but I always assumed if a liaison was preplanned and someone was paid to or traveled themselves to pay for meeting they were in the same category. That's why I dont travel. But if that's not it and there's only those who are made to work by another person then the AMPs and "Rotasions" all fall into that category dont they?
That's why I personally NEVER visit an AMP. You can't convince me those girls aren't trafficked.
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Old 12-14-2018, 02:05 PM   #25
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I may be really naive on the definition but I always assumed if a liaison was preplanned and someone was paid to or traveled themselves to pay for meeting they were in the same category. That's why I dont travel...

From https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human...afficking.html
Trafficking has three constituent elements;
The Act (What is done)
Recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons
The Means (How it is done)
Threat or use of force, coercion, abduction, fraud, deception, abuse of power or vulnerability, or giving payments or benefits to a person in control of the victim
The Purpose (Why it is done)
For the purpose of exploitation, which includes exploiting the prostitution of others, sexual exploitation, forced labour, slavery or similar practices and the removal of organs.

So in this context, traveling for a prearranged meeting is not necessarily trafficking if there is no coercion of any sort. So you are free to travel if you wish. If you are managed, and payment is given to management, it might be considered trafficking (Transportation, giving payments or benefits to a person in control of the victim, exploiting the prostitution of others).
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Old 12-14-2018, 02:47 PM   #26
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....Two legged lobby rat?
One of numerous labels hotel staff use for pimps. Usually just before folks are invited to check out, quickly.

FSN has an excellent post above, and I'd like to thank him for that.
I have two followup comments.

Most states have passed laws that are more specific, etc, so that silver bracelets can he awarded easily.

And, as an addon to FSNs transport comment: Regardless of age, or even if no compulsion, crossing a state line with a passenger (quite common in kc metro) can easily get a fed to review a case file if local leo issues a referral. Of course local muni leo, sheriff, stateies, and feds all share intel nowadays regardless.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:42 PM   #27
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Okay so there is a thin line between paying someone and them volunteering and paying someone and them being forced?
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:44 PM   #28
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Yes AMP are rife with trafficking.
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Old 12-14-2018, 03:46 PM   #29
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One of numerous labels hotel staff use for pimps. Usually just before folks are invited to check out, quickly.

FSN has an excellent post above, and I'd like to thank him for that.
I have two followup comments.

Most states have passed laws that are more specific, etc, so that silver bracelets can he awarded easily.

And, as an addon to FSNs transport comment: Regardless of age, or even if no compulsion, crossing a state line with a passenger (quite common in kc metro) can easily get a fed to review a case file if local leo issues a referral. Of course local muni leo, sheriff, stateies, and feds all share intel nowadays regardless.
I agree.If I buy you a Tix and you come it's not.
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Old 12-14-2018, 05:33 PM   #30
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I agree.If I buy you a Tix and you come it's not.
Actually you are incorrect with that assumption. Aiding in the transportation across state lines by buying a ticket, is just as bad as driving them across. Google the Mann Act. That is what UC was talking about.
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