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05-19-2019, 03:53 PM
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Something that libs always fail to understand...counting a SLAVE as 3/5th of a person was done to limit the power of the slave owning states. It was not an insult to African slaves but a political calculation.
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05-19-2019, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Abe Lincoln won in 1860 with 39.7% of the popular vote.
Woodrow Wilson won in 1912 with 41.8% of the popular vote.
Slick Willy won in 1992 with 43.0% of the popular vote.
Dick Nixon won in 1968 with 43.4% of the popular vote.
James Buchanan won in 1856 with 45.3% of the popular vote.
Grover Cleveland won in 1892 with 46.0% of the popular vote.
Trumpy won in 2016 with 46.1% of the popular vote.
So... which one do you suppose the dim-retards regard as "illegitimate"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ar_vote_margin
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Lol! Y'all suffer from cognitive dissonance. The USA is a Republic where the November General Election determines which Electors from the Electoral College will officially install the President of the USA. This creates a dilemma where the winner of the popular vote may lose the Electoral College vote. This means that "States" rather than the "People" in essence are the entities that elect the President of the USA. On the other hand, transition to a purely democratic system where each citizen is afforded a vote would more accurately reflect the will of the "People" rather than an Electoral College system of "Electors". Elector's whose vote may or may not reflect the will of the people where goverment is supposed to be for the people... by the people.
The Electoral College is heavily influenced by identity politics and the financial wealth of non-voting corporate citizens in a winner take all proposition. This is significant because eliminating the Electoral College would also eliminate the dilemma of a Presidential candidate winning the popular vote but losing the Electorial College vote. Moreover, a trajectory toward a purely democratic Presidential system would require dismantling the Southern infrastructure of voting laws that restrict voter's rights rather than enhance a natural citizens constitutional right to vote. The Electoral College along with traditionally restrictive Southern voting laws are the last inappropriate ramients of America's institution of chattel slavery, Black Codes and the post Reconstruction Jim Crow Era.
Last of all, the Trump Presidency is the only American Presidential administration that has received help from the sucessful counter-intelligence initiative of a hostile foreign nation. This is separates the Trump administration from others that won the Presidency by the Electoral College vote but lost the popular vote. The perception of the Trump Presidency being illigitimate is supported by the criminal conviction of members of Trump's campaign and administration for inappropriate contact with known Russian spies. Any other natural citizen without the protection of a corrupt Congress loyal to the President rather than the US Constitution would be in prison already. Change my mind with empirical facts not opinion pieces, foul language or bringing up Secretary Clinton's emails. I'll wait!
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05-19-2019, 05:00 PM
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#18
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AKA Admiral Waco Kid
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
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Originally Posted by Whisky_1
Lol! Y'all suffer from cognitive dissonance. The USA is a Republic where the November General Election determines which Electors from the Electoral College will officially install the President of the USA. This creates a dilemma where the winner of the popular vote may lose the Electoral College vote. This means that "States" rather than the "People" in essence are the entities that elect the President of the USA. On the other hand, transition to a purely democratic system where each citizen is afforded a vote would more accurately reflect the will of the "People" rather than an Electoral College.
The Electoral College is heavily influenced by identity politics and the financial wealth of non-voting corporate citizens in a winner take all proposition. This is significant because eliminating the Electoral College would also eliminate the dilemma of a Presidential candidate winning the popular vote but losing the Electorial College vote. Moreover, a trajectory toward a purely democratic Presidential system would require dismantling the Southern infrastructure of voting laws that restrict voter's rights rather than enhance a natural citizens constitutional right to vote. The Electoral College along with traditionally restrictive Southern voting laws are the last inappropriate ramients of America's institution of chattel slavery, Black Codes and the post Reconstruction Jim Crow Era.
Last of all, the Trump Presidency is the only American Presidential administration that has received help from the sucessful counter-intelligence initiative of a hostile foreign nation. This is separates the Trump administration from others that won the Presidency by the Electoral College vote but lost the popular vote. The perception of the Trump Presidency being illigitimate is supported by the criminal conviction of members of Trump's campaign and administration for inappropriate contact with known Russian spies. Any other natural citizen without the protection of a corrupt Congress loyal to the President rather than the US Constitution would be in prison already. Change my mind with empirical facts not opinion pieces, foul language or bringing up Secretary Clinton's emails. I'll wait!
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What do you suffer from?
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05-19-2019, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: South of Chicago
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Originally Posted by Whisky_1
Lol! Y'all suffer from cognitive dissonance. The USA is a Republic where the November General Election determines which Electors from the Electoral College will officially install the President of the USA. This creates a dilemma where the winner of the popular vote may lose the Electoral College vote. This means that "States" rather than the "People" in essence are the entities that elect the President of the USA. On the other hand, transition to a purely democratic system where each citizen is afforded a vote would more accurately reflect the will of the "People" rather than an Electoral College system of "Electors". Elector's whose vote may or may not reflect the will of the people where goverment is supposed to be for the people... by the people.
The Electoral College is heavily influenced by identity politics and the financial wealth of non-voting corporate citizens in a winner take all proposition. This is significant because eliminating the Electoral College would also eliminate the dilemma of a Presidential candidate winning the popular vote but losing the Electorial College vote. Moreover, a trajectory toward a purely democratic Presidential system would require dismantling the Southern infrastructure of voting laws that restrict voter's rights rather than enhance a natural citizens constitutional right to vote. The Electoral College along with traditionally restrictive Southern voting laws are the last inappropriate ramients of America's institution of chattel slavery, Black Codes and the post Reconstruction Jim Crow Era.
Last of all, the Trump Presidency is the only American Presidential administration that has received help from the sucessful counter-intelligence initiative of a hostile foreign nation. This is separates the Trump administration from others that won the Presidency by the Electoral College vote but lost the popular vote. The perception of the Trump Presidency being illigitimate is supported by the criminal conviction of members of Trump's campaign and administration for inappropriate contact with known Russian spies. Any other natural citizen without the protection of a corrupt Congress loyal to the President rather than the US Constitution would be in prison already. Change my mind with empirical facts not opinion pieces, foul language or bringing up Secretary Clinton's emails. I'll wait!
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For the truly sentient people in this world, the evidence, per Mueller, conclusively and irrefutably shows that the Russians helped and hindered both parties during the course of the 2016 election.
Furthermore, the evidence, per revelations mostly garnered from sworn Congressional testimony, shows that Team hildebeest used a spurious, Russian sourced disinformation document deceptively farmed out to this country's intelligence agencies and anti-Trump lame-stream media outlets to destroy the administration of a duly elected president of the United States of America.
It matters not that the Russian sourced Steele dossier was "unsuccessful".
It only matters that it occurred and that there is an enormous number of jackasses in the dim-retard party who refuse to see the facts as they exist in the evidence.
That's what the evidence shows.
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05-19-2019, 09:05 PM
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Lol! I disagree. The President is a pathological lier who continues to obstruct justice and abuse his office for personal gain (influence peddling, fraud, money laundering). That is what the evidence shows when a critically thinking person is not blinded by identity politics confusing blind nationalism for patriotism. When Republican members of congress publically state that they do not care if the President broke the law and refuse to hold 45 accountable then Congress' ability to provide oversight to the executive branch is broken. I guess I all comes down to who you believe....Mueller and the American Intelligence community or a President who constantly lies, and misleads the American people while be courted by Dictators.
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05-20-2019, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Whisky_1
Lol! I disagree. The President is a pathological lier who continues to obstruct justice and abuse his office for personal gain (influence peddling, fraud, money laundering). That is what the evidence shows when a critically thinking person is not blinded by identity politics confusing blind nationalism for patriotism. When Republican members of congress publically state that they do not care if the President broke the law and refuse to hold 45 accountable then Congress' ability to provide oversight to the executive branch is broken. I guess I all comes down to who you believe....Mueller and the American Intelligence community or a President who constantly lies, and misleads the American people while be courted by Dictators.
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In this instance it's actually pretty cut and dried. I believe Mueller and the American Intelligence community and the POTUS.
Mueller's findings having used investigations of the American Intelligence community came to the conclusions.
Volume 1 - No Collusion on the part of the Trump campaign.
Volume 2 - Not enough evidence to recommend indictment for obstruction.
So a logical critical thinker would determine that there is not yet enough evidence to support the baseless BS you are spewing regarding the POTUS.
And back to the OP, good luck with switching us to a full Democracy from the Representative Republic that we are. But I do enjoy the rhetoric about how the poor individual voter doesn't count in our nation...
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05-20-2019, 07:18 AM
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Again Nothing ,,,,
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05-20-2019, 08:56 AM
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Join Date: Jan 3, 2010
Location: South of Chicago
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Originally Posted by eccielover
In this instance it's actually pretty cut and dried. I believe Mueller and the American Intelligence community and the POTUS.
Mueller's findings having used investigations of the American Intelligence community came to the conclusions.
Volume 1 - No Collusion on the part of the Trump campaign.
Volume 2 - Not enough evidence to recommend indictment for obstruction.
So a logical critical thinker would determine that there is not yet enough evidence to support the baseless BS you are spewing regarding the POTUS.
And back to the OP, good luck with switching us to a full Democracy from the Representative Republic that we are. But I do enjoy the rhetoric about how the poor individual voter doesn't count in our nation...
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A House investigation determined there was no collusion.
A Senate investigation determined there was no collusion.
The Mueller investigation determined there was no collusion and that there wasn't evidence to prosecute a case of obstruction.
Yet, some people can't comprehend the facts and are just too stupid to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel.
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05-20-2019, 09:55 AM
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Join Date: Apr 29, 2013
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Originally Posted by I B Hankering
+1
A House investigation determined there was no collusion.
A Senate investigation determined there was no collusion.
The Mueller investigation determined there was no collusion and that there wasn't evidence to prosecute a case of obstruction.
Yet, some people can't comprehend the facts and are just too stupid to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel.
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05-20-2019, 10:10 AM
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That should be your avatar; it looks like you and a bunch of your friends.
*A House investigation determined there was no collusion.
*A Senate investigation determined there was no collusion.
*The Mueller investigation determined there was no collusion and that there wasn't evidence to prosecute a case of obstruction.
Yet, some people can't comprehend the facts and are just too stupid to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel.
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05-20-2019, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Jul 7, 2010
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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
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Yep, those Mueller indictments will be coming any day now. Just be patient.
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05-21-2019, 07:12 AM
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Yet, some people can't comprehend the facts and are just too stupid to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions printed on the heel.
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05-21-2019, 01:21 PM
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Just because they couldn't prove a conspiracy between the trump campaign and Russia doesn't mean there wasn't Russian interference in the election. Not to mention that trump publicly asked for Russian to intervene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...ates_elections
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” Trump said in a July 27, 2016 news conference.
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05-21-2019, 01:49 PM
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AKA Admiral Waco Kid
Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Just because they couldn't prove a conspiracy between the trump campaign and Russia doesn't mean there wasn't Russian interference in the election. Not to mention that trump publicly asked for Russian to intervene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...ates_elections
“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” Trump said in a July 27, 2016 news conference.
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so what? it's campaign rhetoric. if you consider that an "invite" to act, what was Clinton's (and Obama) political condemnation of the 2012 election ... in RUSSIA?
Why Putin hates Hillary
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...n-putin-226153
Clinton cites 'serious concerns' about Russian election
https://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/06/w...ton/index.html
Face it, sparky. Even if Trump had not run at all, Russia was still gonna bitch slap Clinton as the DNC 2016 candidate as payback for her cunt-ass bullshit.
so what's your reply here? Fake news? old news? apples to oranges? or my fav ...
What difference, at this point, does it make?
BSHAHAAAHAHAAAAAAAAA
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05-21-2019, 01:57 PM
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Ecki9.5k hot on the trail of the "evidence".
BAHAHAAAAAAAAA
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