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Originally Posted by Precious_b
Don't pretend that a refinery that is 50 years out of its designed obsolence (sp) has the same down time as a newer one.
As someone here mentioned, there is a point of diminishing returns.
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what exactly is the expiration date for a refinery?
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Originally Posted by HDGristle
Point to specific newer refineries, and then let's look at available data on outage schedules.
Yes, we CAN do that
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what newer refineries? that's the whole point isn't it? especially in Kalifornica and the Government in general have made it so unfavorable to build new refineries.
https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-repor...california-oil
all of the large scale refineries are old. it's because the regulations to build one are overkill and no big oil company wants to bother to battle Kalifornica to do it
go figure!!!
California Refinery Facilities Began Operations Ownership Information Current Crude Capacity
(Barrels/Day)Notes
Chevron, El Segundo Refinery 1912 Standard Oil Co: 1912-1926
Standard Oil Company of California (Socal): 1926-1977
Chevron USA Inc: 1977-2001
ChevronTexaco Corp: 2001-2005
Chevron Corp: 2005-Present 269,000 Chevron, Richmond Refinery 1902 Pacific Coast Oil: July 7, 1902-1906
Standard Oil Co: 1906-1926
Standard Oil Company of California (Socal): 1926-1977
Chevron USA Inc: 1977-2001
ChevronTexaco Corp: 2001-2005
Chevron Corp: 2005-Present 245,271 Kern Energy, Bakersfield Refinery 1934 El Tejon Oil & Refining Co: 1934-1943
Kreiger Oil Co: 1943-1945
Douglas Oil Co: 1945-1962
Continental Oil: 1962-1966
Edgington Oil/Signal Oil & Gas: 1966-1971
Kern County Refinery Inc. (Charter Oil Co.): 1971-1976
Kern County Refinery Inc. (Privately Held): 1976-1982
Kern Oil & Refining Co: 1982-Present 26,000 Also known as Kern Oil & Refining Company.Lunday Thagard Oil Company,
South Gate Refinery 1937 Lunday Thagard Oil Co: 1937-Present8,500Subsidiary of World Oil Company.Marathon Petroleum Co., Carson Refinery1938Richfield Oil Corp: 1938-1966
Atlantic Richfield Company (ARCO): 1966-2000
BP West Coast Products: 2000-June 2013
Tesoro Refining & Marketing: June 2013-August 2017
Andeavor: August 2017-October 2018
Marathon Petroleum: October 2018-Present 256,830 Marathon Carson and Wilmington began reporting as one entity known as Marathon Los Angeles Refinery (LAR) as of 2019 with a capacity of 365,000 barrels per day.Marathon Petroleum Co., Wilmington Refinery1923California Petroleum Corp: 1923-1928
Texas Company: 1928-1959
Texaco, Inc: 1959-1998
Equilon Enterprises (joint venture of Shell Oil Co. & Texaco Inc.): 1998-2002
Shell Oil Co: 2002-2007
Tesoro Refining & Marketing: June 2013-August 2017
Andeavor: August 2017-October 2018
Marathon Petroleum: October 2018-Present 98,340 Marathon Carson and Wilmington began reporting as one entity known as Marathon Los Angeles Refinery (LAR) as of 2019 with a capacity of 365,000 barrels per day.PBF Energy, Martinez Refinery1915Shell Company of Calif: 1915-1939
Shell Oil Company, Inc: 1939-1949
Shell Oil Co: 1949-1998
Equilon Enterprises (joint venture of Shell Oil Co. & Texaco Inc.): 1998-2002
Shell Oil Co: 2002-February 2020
PBF Energy: February 2020-Present 156,400 PBF Energy, Torrance Refinery1907Vacuum Oil Co: 1907-1929
General Petroleum Corporation of Calif: 1929-1931
Socony-Vacuum Corp: 1931-1934
Socony-Vacuum Oil Company, Inc: 1934-1955
Socony Mobil Oil Co: 1955-1966
Mobil Oil Corp: 1966-2000
ExxonMobil: 2000-July 2016
PBF Energy: July 2016-Present 160,000 Phillips 66, Wilmington Refinery1917Union Oil Co of Calif: 1917-1983
Unocal: 1983-1997
Tosco Corp: 1997-2001
Phillips: 2001-2002
ConocoPhillips: 2002-May 2012
Phillips 66: May 2012-Present 139,000 Also known as Phillips 66, Los Angeles Refinery (LAR). P66 Wilmington, Los Angeles Refinery has announced plans to cease operations in the fourth quarter of 2025.San Joaquin Refining Company,
Bakersfield Refinery1969 San Joaquin Refining Co: 1969-Present15,000 Talley Asphalt Inc., Kern Refinery2021Talley Asphalt Products: 2021-Present1,700 Valero, Benicia Asphalt Refinery1982Huntway Refining: 1982-2001
Valero Refining Co: 2001-Present 13,000 Now part of Valero Benicia Refinery with a capacity 145,000 barrels per day.Valero, Benicia Refinery1968Exxon Co USA: 1968-2000
Valero Refining Co: 2000-Present145,000 Valero, Wilmington Asphalt Refinery1980Huntway Refining: 1980-2001 Valero Refining Co: 2001-Present6,300 Valero, Wilmington Refinery1969Champlin Petroleum Co: 1969-1987
Union Pacific Resources Co: 1987-1988
Ultramar Refining: 1988-1997
Ultramar Diamond Shamrock: 1997-2002
Valero Refining Co: 2002-Present 85,000