Taiwan Strait

[pxmcc]

this article does a pretty good job putting chinese fuckery in the taiwan strait into historical context.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/08/cros...strait-crisis/

honestly, i think biden is probably too much of a pussy to do what is needed in the taiwan strait. we need some crazy fucks like me to play some chicken with the chinese over their taiwan strait incursions past the median line.

china is just a garden variety bully. and the only thing that bullies respect is bigger dudes who are about to kick their wannabe tough guy's ass. they don't give a fuck about following playground rules or playing nice. the sooner we get that into our thick noggins, the better. i mean, they're basically freaking bitch ass mcconnell republicans..

[pxmcc]

Chinese fuckery. yup, screw that. lets send 2 carrier strike groups through the strait at a minimum.

https://time.com/6206686/china-us-na...taiwan-strait/

[boardman]

The Art of War by Sun Tzu should be understood in it's entirety and not cherry picked.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by boardman

The Art of War by Sun Tzu should be understood in it's entirety and not cherry picked.

ok then, what say you? cede taiwan, strategic ambiguity, or an unmistakeably clear shot across the bow?

you know where i stand.

[AndyDufresne]

I’m sure China (and Iran…and Russia)has purchased some of the high tech portion of the $7 billion in equipment that was negligently left in Afghanistan.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by AndyDufresne

I’m sure China (and Iran…and Russia)has purchased some of the high tech portion of the $7 billion in equipment that was negligently left in Afghanistan.

if we had started the pullout earlier, it would have caused a crisis of confidence and the immediate collapse of the Afghan government. that's the only reason why Biden waited to do the pullout. who could believe that govt troops would surrender within a couple of days. freaking pussies.

[boardman]

Originally Posted by AndyDufresne

I’m sure China (and Iran…and Russia)has purchased some of the high tech portion of the $7 billion in equipment that was negligently left in Afghanistan.

Don't think for a minute that the Mexican cartels didn't get their fair share. They've been friendly with Afghanistan, buying end products and precursor chemicals, using import-export fronts in and through Turkey and India for years. I imagine some of that weaponry was on Mexican soil before our last transport left Kabul.

[boardman]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

ok then, what say you? cede taiwan, strategic ambiguity, or an unmistakeably clear shot across the bow?

you know where i stand.

Strategic ambiguity worked well for decades. Why isn't it working now? Who fucked that up?

[Unique_Carpenter]

Originally Posted by boardman

Strategic ambiguity worked well for decades. Why isn't it working now? Who fucked that up?

Exactly.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by boardman

Strategic ambiguity worked well for decades. Why isn't it working now? Who fucked that up?

it won't work b/c the Chinese see it as their destiny to take Taiwan by any means necessary. their narrative is that china is a rising power and america is in decline, so it's just a matter of time before they can't be stopped by anyone, the u.s. included, so their thinking goes.

i take a dim view of china doing a practice invasion of taiwan while the world just sits there and watches. i'm in favor of firing a shot across their bow. i think coalescing a couple of our strike groups coupled with our allied carrier and helo carrier battle groups would do a good job of communicating our disapproval of this type of conduct.

happy to hear 1.1B in anti-china military gear has been approved for sale to taiwan by the biden admin. basically a big fuck you china.

and this (link below) is moving in exactly the direction i called for. biden is playing a hand for sure, and it's not a half bad hand at that, even if not quite as aggressive as my proposal.

https://news.usni.org/2022/08/29/chi...outh-china-sea

as far as strategic ambiguity, it worked perfectly fine so long as we were the only 500 pound gorilla in the room. if that's not the case, i think strategic ambiguity is a recipe for miscalculation by china. the more they get away with on their practice invasions, the less they believe the u.s. will launch a credible counterstrike.

[pxmcc]

It's high time for us to make a show of force in the Taiwan strait. With constant incursions by Chinese military assets past the median line, it's time to either resolve to cede Taiwan to China, which is illegal under current law, or put China on notice that we will vigorously defend Taiwan.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...arsal-00054568

[TryWeakly]

Unfortunately, the only show HidenBiden can show is a show of farce... and that's on a good day...

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by TryWeakly

Unfortunately, the only show HidenBiden can show is a show of farce... and that's on a good day...

never underestimate dark brandon with his aviators on..

[Unique_Carpenter]

Originally Posted by boardman

The Art of War by Sun Tzu should be understood in it's entirety and not cherry picked.

Thank you boardman.
Very few folks understand that all chapters are interrelated.
BTW, required reading for US Marine officers.

[dude0204]

Originally Posted by boardman

Strategic ambiguity worked well for decades. Why isn't it working now? Who fucked that up?

Honestly, strategic ambiguity is exactly the problem that led up to current situation. If we stood firm on supporting Taiwan since the beginning, the rule will be clear and the boundary will be set. China had been challenging the issue for decades. What they learned is that the west cares more about money and the more they pushed the more they gained. With the experience, I don't blame China for thinking the west is soft. We just need to start correcting it.

On a side note, how the world turned a blind eye on China's human right violations has also contributed to the Uyghur situation in Xinjiang. We allowed China to test the water for way too long.