Solo Guitarists: Eric Clapton vs. Peter Frampton

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Zanzibar789

Chung you're pretty hard on Chuck. You make it sound like he was a scrub. Chuck was John Lennon's inspiration.

he was, and it could be argued he inspired a new generation of guitarists.. BUT.. it doesn't mean he is a great guitarist.. just like the Beatles.. their early pop hits were largely derivative, all sounded the same, change a few notes around; "I wanna hold your hand, "all my loving", "love me do".. people remain fond of those tunes, because they remember how they felt when the Beatles broke big.. but empirically speaking, those tunes are rubbish compared to those on Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road..

[mr. sixty nine]

Don't dis Chuck without him pulling rock and roll out from the blues, none of the others would exist. Chuck was probably the most influential of all.

[Chung Tran]

Berry was an influential guitarist, but not a great player.. Johnnie Johnson was equally important in the Berry song catalouge..

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...berry-20001201

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

he was, and it could be argued he inspired a new generation of guitarists.. BUT.. it doesn't mean he is a great guitarist.. just like the Beatles.. their early pop hits were largely derivative, all sounded the same, change a few notes around; "I wanna hold your hand, "all my loving", "love me do".. people remain fond of those tunes, because they remember how they felt when the Beatles broke big.. but empirically speaking, those tunes are rubbish compared to those on Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road..

I will concede on your derivatives argument. However, I think you're being too technical about things and totally unfair about Chuck. I rarely get upset about anything but calling Chuck a scrub is irritating. You can't honestly say that while saying he inspired a new generation. It's not fair man.

[Chung Tran]

I'm not calling Chuck a scrub, I'm saying he doesn't belong in a list of top 10 greatest guitarists.. I said twice he was influential.. very influential, more than anyone in rock history, perhaps..

but be honest.. the reason he makes the list is because he was in early, on the rock scene.. his songwriting, themes about cars and teens, reasonated... his songs clicked, unlike, say, Bo Diddley, a much better guitarist, but whose themes were less inviting to a new, young-people oriented, record-buying public. (white kids)

because Chuck's songs were popular, the British heard him, aped him, and expanded rock and roll... but.. doesn't mean he was a great guitarist..

[Guest051115]

Ok. Thanks for the explanation.

[Don T. Lukbak]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

I'm not calling Chuck a scrub, I'm saying he doesn't belong in a list of top 10 greatest guitarists.. I said twice he was influential.. very influential, more than anyone in rock history, perhaps..

but be honest.. the reason he makes the list is because he was in early, on the rock scene.. his songwriting, themes about cars and teens, reasonated... his songs clicked, unlike, say, Bo Diddley, a much better guitarist, but whose themes were less inviting to a new, young-people oriented, record-buying public. (white kids)

because Chuck's songs were popular, the British heard him, aped him, and expanded rock and roll... but.. doesn't mean he was a great guitarist..

Whutchu say, man! Quit mumblin'...and talk out loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEfz9VfFOKQ

Chuck & Bo: Aerobics Instructors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMBB5xLUpO4

[knotty man]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDQQDF6j0Y
his picking and strumming skills are truly inspired,
almost unbelievable that he was on Hee Haw!!

[boardman]

Originally Posted by knotty man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDQQDF6j0Y
his picking and strumming skills are truly inspired,
almost unbelievable that he was on Hee Haw!!

You're getting into a whole other realm.
Roy Clark, Jerry Reed, Chet Atkins...The list goes on.

[Guest050619-1]

As suggested before, lists are made to be debated over a cold beverage.....for what it's worth, I did find another one which omitted from it's top 10 Townsend, Van Halen and Beck and replaced those names with Robert Johnson, Ry Cooder and the great SRV.

While the other names were jumbled about in different order from my first posting....Jimi remained #1, of course. Were he alive today to hear of such dribble (ie: people determining the "best of all time"), he'd probably laugh and say "That's fine....but I still ain't playin' Foxy Lady again....."

Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

10. Peter Townsend
9. Duane Allman
8. Eddie Van Halen
7. Chuck Berry
6. BB King
5. Jeff Beck
4. Keith Richards
3. Jimmy Page
2. Eric Clapton
1. Jimi Hendrix

[boardman]

Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

As suggested before, lists are made to be debated over a cold beverage.....for what it's worth, I did find another one which omitted from it's top 10 Townsend, Van Halen and Beck and replaced those names with Robert Johnson, Ry Cooder and the great SRV.

While the other names were jumbled about in different order from my first posting....Jimi remained #1, of course. Were he alive today to hear of such dribble (ie: people determining the "best of all time"), he'd probably laugh and say "That's fine....but I still ain't playin' Foxy Lady again....."

I don't know if you can put Duane Allman on that list and leave off Dickey Betts. Duane was an incredible talent but it was Dickey Betts that made their sound by picking as much as Duane did on slide.. There are few guitar players that could bring the soul and emotion out of a guitar like Dickey. Jimi Hendrix was one of them.

Jessica and In Memory of Elizabeth Reed are all time favorite instrumentals.

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by boardman

I don't know if you can put Duane Allman on that list and leave off Dickey Betts. Duane was an incredible talent but it was Dickey Betts that made their sound by picking as much as Duane did on slide.. There are few guitar players that could bring the soul and emotion out of a guitar like Dickey. Jimi Hendrix was one of them.

Jessica and In Memory of Elizabeth Reed are all time favorite instrumentals.

I'm taking notes of all these players yall are mentioning that I haven't really heard of. I want to hear how good they were. Hopefully I can find some decent recordings online.

[Guest051115]

Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

As suggested before, lists are made to be debated over a cold beverage.....for what it's worth, I did find another one which omitted from it's top 10 Townsend, Van Halen and Beck and replaced those names with Robert Johnson, Ry Cooder and the great SRV.

While the other names were jumbled about in different order from my first posting....Jimi remained #1, of course. Were he alive today to hear of such dribble (ie: people determining the "best of all time"), he'd probably laugh and say "That's fine....but I still ain't playin' Foxy Lady again....."

I love Jimi but do you think he gets sentimental Woodstock points. Where do you think he ranked before Woodstock followed closely by his death in 1970.

[kerwil62]

Y'all can go on and on and on about this shit.

If a person can play guitar, they can inspire.

There are a billion guitarists out there, and a million of them that can actually play.

NO ONE is the best ever!

[Seedy]

Originally Posted by kerwil62

Y'all can go on and on and on about this shit.

If a person can play guitar, they can inspire.

There are a billion guitarists out there, and a million of them that can actually play.

NO ONE is the best ever!

EXACTLY, kerwil I have seen almost all mentioned here with the exception of Hendrix, and a whole bunch more. It all depends on what style you like and music you like to listen to. I am not a country fan at all, but I have seen Roy Clark, and I would not hesitate to pay top dollar to see him play again. Motherfucker could play