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Cpalmson · 03-26-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wicket

I just wish ladies would read my profile. There really some important info in there!

Agree completely. My P411 profile is the equivalent of the provider's ad/website. It lets the provider know what I'm into and what is important to me. I'd hope providers take the time to check out the profile.

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Originally Posted by Naomi4u

A lot of providers prefer not to see serial hobbyists. I can understand that.

So what you are saying is that you think hobbyists are better off finding a few good ATFs and see them on a regular basis. Is that the case? While I'm not the type of hobbyist to "hit" every provider who is out there, I do tend to enjoy seeing different providers. I think both hobbyists and providers run a risk if they get too familiar with one another. At some point, someone will try to take advantage of the other. I'll repeat with a provider, but it would have to be at least several months (if not more) between dates.

TexEngnr · 03-26-2011, 11:31 PM

Naomi - What is about 20+ okays that freaks you out? I don't understand. My 18 okays are spread over almost 2 years. Would I be better off deleting some of the older okays? I am not challenging you - I just want to understand.

Valerie · 03-26-2011, 11:51 PM

I tend to look at the dates....If a bloke has 40 okays in a 2-3 month period, I'll take a pass

How often they are seeing ladies, I also check out the ladies they've seen as well, if I feel they are a bit dodgy then I won't see them...Just the way I do things...

Chica Chaser · 03-27-2011, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Naomi4u

A lot of providers prefer not to see serial hobbyists. I can understand that.

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Originally Posted by Valerie

I tend to look at the dates....If a bloke has 40 okays in a 2-3 month period, I'll take a pass

Please expound on that, I can't understand that. I'm truly interested in the thought process and reasoning behind it. Guess I better start deleting, if this is the case on a widespread basis!

If a lady has hundreds of reviews, I don't take a pass because of it.

Valerie · 03-27-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Please expound on that, I can't understand that. I'm truly interested in the thought process and reasoning behind it. Guess I better start deleting, if this is the case on a widespread basis!

I don't like to see serial hobbyists..( doesn't mean I rule them out completely)...but for example, say I get 2 appt requests for the same day/time...One guy has 10-20 okays over a reasonable time period, the other has 70 over a year!...I would go with the first bloke....

Now I know this is confusing for some guys to understand, as I'm sure some think,"Well you ladies see men all the time, isn't that the same?"....For me, that answer is no....All I know is how I go about things, I know that I get blood work done every 5 weeks, I know I use protection, I try and for the most part see "low volume" gents lol... I have no idea how safe a guy has been in the past, all I know is what I do for my safety, I'm taking care of myself....I've spoken to a lot of gents about how often they get tested etc, some say 6months to a year!!...I think if you are in the hobby, then you should stay on top of your bloodwork, unfortunately I don't think many men get checked out as often as providers do, so in my head, they are more dangerous, and therefore, the serial hobbyists pose more of a risk, IMHO of course....

Chica Chaser · 03-27-2011, 12:24 AM

I would think that a "serial" hobbyist would be the guys you would be wanting to see. The guys that know how to play the game and are safe from an LE and physical standpoint.

rrabbit6926 · 03-27-2011, 12:26 AM

I think it is the same thought process like guys who don't like to see high volume ladies. Who wants to be the 15th guy of the day?

Valerie · 03-27-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

I would think that a "serial" hobbyist would be the guys you would be wanting to see. The guys that know how to play the game and are safe from an LE and physical standpoint.

A serial hobbyist does not equal a safe one....Just because a guy may see a lot of ladies, doesn't mean a guy who does it 1-2 times per month doesn't....As far as LE, well no guy is ever safe from them.

Valerie · 03-27-2011, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rrabbit6926

I think it is the same thought process like guys who don't like to see high volume ladies. Who wants to be the 15th guy of the day?

15 guys in a day!

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rrabbit6926 · 03-27-2011, 12:32 AM

Val,

Your avatar is only missing a whip in your hands but the handcuffs do say alot

. Yeah I just said 15 guys but I'm not even sure how many guys a high volume girl does.

Valerie · 03-27-2011, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rrabbit6926

Val,

Your avatar is only missing a whip in your hands but the handcuffs do say alot

. Yeah I just said 15 guys but I'm not even sure how many guys a high volume girl does.

LOL...well don't get the wrong idea...I'm not a sub ha!......I'm not sure how many high volume ladies see in a day....I prefer 1,2 3 at the most per day, multiple hour appts are the best

MsElena · 03-27-2011, 12:53 AM

When a lady says that she won't see a guy because he has too many OK's is the pot calling the kettle black.

A guy who has seen 10 ladies within a year is no safer than a guy who sees 40 a year. And who knows, maybe he isn't seeing all those ladies for FS. Maybe he sees a few for just a BJ or a domme session where there's no sexual contact (at least a TRUE domme session) or a massage with a HE....etc.

When a gent has seen 40 ladies in a year, just remember ladies.....you've seen triple. actually probably more. Does that make YOU anymore safer than him now?

Valerie · 03-27-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MsElena

When a lady says that she won't see a guy because he has too many OK's is the pot calling the kettle black.

A guy who has seen 10 ladies within a year is no safer than a guy who sees 40 a year. And who knows, maybe he isn't seeing all those ladies for FS. Maybe he sees a few for just a BJ or a domme session where there's no sexual contact (at least a TRUE domme session) or a massage with a HE....etc.

When a gent has seen 40 ladies in a year, just remember ladies.....you've seen triple. actually probably more. Does that make YOU anymore safer than him now?

I think we are all quite aware of how many guys we see each year...I just explained my reasoning to what you're saying in an above post... Say you have 2 guys...one is serial hobbyist, the other not so much....lets say both use protection, however, both do bbbj.....If you went to a doctor and asked him who was more likely to contract something, I would guess he would say the serial hobbyist....

We all do our business differently, should I choose to not see tons of serial hobbyists is my right....And I seriously doubt all the hobbyists out there get tested as often as I do. So do I think I'm safer than someone who doesn't get full panel bloodwork done every 5 weeks?....Most likely, yes....

Chica Chaser · 03-27-2011, 01:09 AM

So just exactly what is that number that puts a guy in the serial category?

If I have 40 P411 OK's last year, that averages one session every week and a half or so. Is a weekly or bi-weekly hobbyist a "serial" guy? What if he only has a session every couple weeks, and only had 25 OK's? Or a monthly guy and only had 12?

I'm really trying to understand the reasoning here. So far, its strictly a health issue, is that the only reason?

Valerie · 03-27-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

So just exactly what is that number that puts a guy in the serial category?

If I have 40 P411 OK's last year, that averages one session every week and a half or so. Is a weekly or bi-weekly hobbyist a "serial" guy? What if he only has a session every couple weeks, and only had 25 OK's? Or a monthly guy and only had 12?

I'm really trying to understand the reasoning here. So far, its strictly a health issue, is that the only reason?

My issues with seeing a guy...

1). How often they are seeing DIFFERENT ladies.
2). The ladies they have seen recently.

So for me, yes, I suppose it's me trying to take precautions for my safety...I can't answer the question as to how many OK's makes one a serial hobbyist.....I will say I recently fired a regular because his wife went out of town for 2 weeks and within a 2 WEEK period, he saw 16 diff ladies...needless to say, I cancelled our appt the following week...