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Old 11-05-2023, 10:49 PM   #16
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Trump is leading Biden in many battleground states. if Biden can't close the gap, he needs to step aside. in 2024, nothing short of the fate of democracy is on the ballot. Trump is angling for dictatorship.

and he has alienated his entire Muslim base, who will most likely just stay home after this Israeli caper. in Michigan, that's a big. fucking. deal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/u...2024-poll.html

i can't believe voters have such a short memory. historians have placed Trump as the 3rd worst president in history. Obama comes in at a fantastic #10; history will judge Biden well imo.

... You're correct about the voters havin' a short memory.
THAT is why they are supporting Trump...

The voters want their country back.
Less war issues... Better economy... True prosperity.
A CLOSED border... And energy independence for America.

... And TRUMP is the one to bring it - once again!

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Old 11-06-2023, 02:09 AM   #17
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You’re saying voters who can’t remember how shitty things were just a few months ago under the trumpist regime are now supporting the "big buffoon balloon?
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Old 11-06-2023, 03:56 AM   #18
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You’re saying voters who can’t remember how GREAT things were just a few months ago under the trumpist regime are now supporting the "big buffoon balloon?
fit Sir
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Old 11-06-2023, 08:44 AM   #19
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Nice. I’m sure only RWW cultists share that opinion, OSD.

But thanks for the creative editing.

FTFY is one of the truly effective debating tools in the ECCIE arsenal.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Old 11-06-2023, 09:12 AM   #20
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Nice. I’m sure only RWW cultists share that opinion, OSD.

But thanks for the creative editing.

FTFY is one of the truly effective debating tools in the ECCIE arsenal.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I take it you like war and inflation etc.
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Old 11-06-2023, 11:38 AM   #21
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... You're correct about the voters havin' a short memory.
THAT is why they are supporting Trump...

The voters want their country back.
Less war issues... Better economy... True prosperity.
A CLOSED border... And energy independence for America.

... And TRUMP is the one to bring it - once again!

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Trump nor anyone else can save this country, not unless they can walk away from Israel and Ukraine and call it a day. America is spending too much money on these wars it's not a benefit to America at all.
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Old 11-06-2023, 02:43 PM   #22
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arsenal.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Just like the "if you say so" shit.








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Old 11-06-2023, 02:43 PM   #23
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I take it you like war and inflation etc.

Sounds like you have a bad take on the situation.
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Old 11-06-2023, 03:21 PM   #24
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Only thing that can return US to previous normalcy (meaning prior Trumpism idiocracy) is a NEW candidate that can garner support from those that have not did not "drink the tea" from the extreme fringes of either party and want to see this country move forward with room for all as originally intended, as opposed to room for me, as defined by me. Kennedy said it succinctly in "Ask not"...
Sadly, it is now more a question of "It's mine, and I don't give a shit about anyone else". Shameful state of affairs.
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Old 11-06-2023, 03:46 PM   #25
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Only thing that can return US to previous normalcy (meaning prior Trumpism idiocracy) is a NEW candidate that can garner support from those that have not did not "drink the tea" from the extreme fringes of either party and want to see this country move forward with room for all as originally intended, as opposed to room for me, as defined by me. Kennedy said it succinctly in "Ask not"...
Sadly, it is now more a question of "It's mine, and I don't give a shit about anyone else". Shameful state of affairs.








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Old 11-08-2023, 03:04 PM   #26
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I don't have an account so I could not read the whole article. What i could see was that Trump leads Biden in five of the six most important battleground states. What are those six states? I am not worried about poles right now. Remember HRC was leading Tump in the poles 12 monthes before the election and lost the Electoral College. I want to see what Real Clear Politics (Sean Hannity's favorite polster) has in six months. I don't see Trump flipping Mich, Penn or Wisc. He would need all three to beat Sleepy Joe and Kamala.

Go Sleepy Joe.
Go Kamala.
It's much too early to put much faith in the polls. Very little polling has been done at the state level. The NY Times/Sienna poll is a well-regarded poll. 3 polls done in GA since that poll are all within the margin of error. Biden still leads in Wisconsin in ALL polls. What I find interesting in the NY times polls is when Kennedy is included in the polls with Biden and Trump, Biden does better in all states. I would think having Kennedy in the race would help Trump more than Biden.

Trump is facing 91 charges in 4 indictments. His chances for election will hinge on the outcome of those trials. I know the Trump base will vote for a convicted felon but I am hoping the sane part of the electorate sees through Trump. Biden may have issues but Trump has been and still is a disaster.
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Old 11-09-2023, 05:09 PM   #27
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It's much too early to put much faith in the polls. Very little polling has been done at the state level. The NY Times/Sienna poll is a well-regarded poll. 3 polls done in GA since that poll are all within the margin of error. Biden still leads in Wisconsin in ALL polls. What I find interesting in the NY times polls is when Kennedy is included in the polls with Biden and Trump, Biden does better in all states. I would think having Kennedy in the race would help Trump more than Biden.

Trump is facing 91 charges in 4 indictments. His chances for election will hinge on the outcome of those trials. I know the Trump base will vote for a convicted felon but I am hoping the sane part of the electorate sees through Trump. Biden may have issues but Trump has been and still is a disaster.
Very interesting, especially the part about Kennedy. Thanks SpeedRacer.
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