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Old 01-26-2010, 05:40 AM   #16
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CivilBarrister said....."you EXPECT honesty from providers?"
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Oh so true! LOL

One Provider describes herself as 'voluptuous' at 5'9 and 140lbs. I'm 5'8 and 150, so I must be chubby according to her standards! LOL

Not all guys here are looking for spinners. I wish the ladies would understand that and be more honest about their body types, but I know it's part of this business.

BUYER BEWARE!

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Old 01-26-2010, 06:29 AM   #17
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Ok so riddle me this... When you call a provider and she has gained weight since the last time she saw you, you would prefer her to say, "Well, just so you know, I've gained 50 lbs since you saw me last." What would you say? Would you want her to tell you that she changed her hair cut or hair color?

I see your point, but you might wish to tread lightly on the subject. I just found out I was practicaly a BBW by the 2.2 rule... go figure... or not as the case may be.
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Old 01-26-2010, 06:47 AM   #18
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I can personally attest to the fact that there is nothing BBW about Aidan.
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:06 PM   #19
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Providers bodies are their assets. I am seeing bigger and bigger providers advertise. I just can't believe some that don't claim to be bbw...Aiden is no where near BBW, not at all but I have seen some advertise that are well over 150 pounds and don't let the client know their pics are from 5 years ago.......Pics should be updated even if with a simple point and shoot....Just show who you really are...It's not fair to the hobbyist, THEN a provider calls him rude.....It was rude of the provider to not disclose she gained weight....Updated pics show your hair color, and any changes so the hobbyist know what to expect when the door opens......
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:07 PM   #20
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Ok so riddle me this... When you call a provider and she has gained weight since the last time she saw you, you would prefer her to say, "Well, just so you know, I've gained 50 lbs since you saw me last." .
Absolutely. Would you rather see the look on his eyes fixated on the extra padding and lost for words and never see you again? You don't think the word will spread on you after the session?
I am sure you wouldn't take it kindly if a review was done with the bonus weight mentioned since he does not really care to see you for that matter.
If I know upfront there may be a chance for me to go forward but to just show up 50lbs heavier than when I saw you last, or saw in pics, and I am supposed to be just fine with that? If I don't see you, I still appreciate the heads up and may hook up with you when the weight fluctates back.
This is not a Platonic relationship here but skin deep.
A little public relations here can go far.
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:29 PM   #21
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Ok so riddle me this... When you call a provider and she has gained weight since the last time she saw you, you would prefer her to say, "Well, just so you know, I've gained 50 lbs since you saw me last." What would you say? Would you want her to tell you that she changed her hair cut or hair color?

I see your point, but you might wish to tread lightly on the subject. I just found out I was practicaly a BBW by the 2.2 rule... go figure... or not as the case may be.
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Absolutely. Would you rather see the look on his eyes fixated on the extra padding and lost for words and never see you again? You don't think the word will spread on you after the session?
I am sure you wouldn't take it kindly if a review was done with the bonus weight mentioned since he does not really care to see you for that matter.
If I know upfront there may be a chance for me to go forward but to just show up 50lbs heavier than when I saw you last, or saw in pics, and I am supposed to be just fine with that? If I don't see you, I still appreciate the heads up and may hook up with you when the weight fluctates back.
This is not a Platonic relationship here but skin deep.
A little public relations here can go far.
HELP! I am in total agreement with Htowner!
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Old 01-26-2010, 01:47 PM   #22
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Wait HTowner - you EXPECT honesty from providers?

Hell, I would just settle for pictures that are in the past year!

I am VERY appreciative when I call a provider and she tells me she can't have a session because Aunt Flo is in town.....Different from AFTER we both get comfy!

Seriously Bro, if you arrive to see your provider and she isn't what you want, grow a set of nuts and LEAVE. Typically is not cause the little head is doing the thinking - its cause guys don't have to balls to walk away.

They would rather go forward with the session then BITCH that they were deceived.
CB I had a incident and I am not going to mention names but I go to see a UTR provider and everything is so cool, starts out real hot session by the time clothes come off and then I see that and dang! I say hey are you ok? and there is big Aunt flo, put my clothes on and walked, told her to see me after that is over but never setup another appointment. It grossed me out!

One thing I would have to say we do complain about providers that their pic's aren't accurate or they have gained weight but then some guys themselves are real big fat ass lardo's? I think all these providers are so brave to put there picture out there in the first place, can you imagine having your picture out there, a proper one i mean, it would freak me out!
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i wasnt going to touch this, but after beginning to Provide i was listed back and forth as BBW and not BBW. I dont have any issues with labels, all my reviews are stellar.... as im skilled. However i did start to see a weight loss specialist, not a quack like nutri slim, or some generic like that. I went to an actual lipo, weight loss clinic. I dropped 21 Pounds and then put 3 of it back. Why does it happen, bc we are human like You. And when You force Your body and manipulate it, to do something it otherwise wouldnt, You must continue it, or the weight will come back. By that i mean I went to a 1,000 calorie a Day diet, it seems drastic, it was hard, but i saw drastic results, with working out 5 days a week, 2 miles a day. When You lay off that even for a tiny bit, it creeps back up.
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CivilBarrister said....."you EXPECT honesty from providers?"
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One Provider describes herself as 'voluptuous' at 5'9 and 140lbs. I'm 5'8 and 150, so I must be chubby according to her standards! LOL

Not all guys here are looking for spinners. I wish the ladies would understand that and be more honest about their body types, but I know it's part of this business.
She may not have been intentionally dishonest. I recently started a thread about the meaning of "voluptuous" in Austin. There were a LOT of different answers so it's clear there is not a standard meaning that everyone agrees on... many of the posters who responded thought that it meant big boobs and that this was the original meaning of the word but often it is used now to mean fat. So does this 5'9" provider have big tatas?

I used to think voluptuous meant curvy and always titled my ads "Voluptuous Vixen" but was eventually politely told by some hobbyists to stop using the word as I don't really have the boobs for it. I wasn't being dishonest, just ignorant.

Accurate pictures speak louder than words anyhow.
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i wasnt going to touch this, but after beginning to Provide i was listed back and forth as BBW and not BBW. I dont have any issues with labels, all my reviews are stellar.... as im skilled. However i did start to see a weight loss specialist, not a quack like nutri slim, or some generic like that. I went to an actual lipo, weight loss clinic. I dropped 21 Pounds and then put 3 of it back. Why does it happen, bc we are human like You. And when You force Your body and manipulate it, to do something it otherwise wouldnt, You must continue it, or the weight will come back. By that i mean I went to a 1,000 calorie a Day diet, it seems drastic, it was hard, but i saw drastic results, with working out 5 days a week, 2 miles a day. When You lay off that even for a tiny bit, it creeps back up.
Subcilla! I know some people just have that super high metabolism and don't gain an inch no matter what they do! But if you stay away from fast food, keep it consistent with workout, you will see results and keep it off. Yes! I know holidays are the worst though, everybody gains a few turkey and santa pounds!
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I know one gal who might weigh 125 today, 145 in a couple of months, then back to 110 in a few months after that.
I'm not certain if this actually happens with providers more than with civilians but it would certainly be more noticeable with us, considering the services we are selling.

I think Sub Cill and Kat have touched on some possible reasons.

I can say for myself that oddly, the hobby does not provide me with as much encouragement to lose weight as one might think.

First of all, most of the hobbyists that come to see me, see me with the full awareness that I am a fleshy girl. It says so on my website and my pix are accurate. They often come to me because they actually LIKE that body type so they aren't going to encourage me to drop any pounds. Either that, or they see me for my glowing personality and don't want to offend me by mentioning weight loss. I've only had two clients ever say anything to me and it honestly, did hurt my feelings and made me pretty angry (though I hid my anger well) -- I mean, if you like spinners, duh, don't come see a girl who advertises herself as "curvy".

But anyhow, a typical session consists of being told how beautiful I am over and over again. It's easy for girls to get a big ego and not realize they need to keep vigilant about their diet and exercise when they are constantly being WORSHIPED.

Add to that the fact that guys are constantly bringing me chocolate, alcoholic beverages, and desert. Guys hardly ever brings me carrot sticks.

One time this guy called me for a short notice appointment. I told him I was absolutely STARVING and was just about to grab something to eat so I wouldn't pass out but could be ready after that. He said, well I'm just getting food for myself so I'll pick you up something and we can eat it at the incall. I was so excited and not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth, didn't make any requests. Well the dude shows up with ice cream and pie and nothing else! I kid you not. That's what he brought! I didn't want to be rude but I was pretty furious. I struggled to keep my composure as I explained how sorry I was but wouldn't be able to eat it... geez! Somehow I made it through the session without fainting, but that was really unbelievable. I've been brought chocolate cake, cheese cake, and more chocolate bars than I will ever possibly eat. There is a small stack of them in my incall fridge at the moment -- and that's not because I never eat any chocolate. I eat a piece here and there but they just keep bringing more. So I think there is a conspiracy among hobbyists to fatten us up.

Now I think the best weight loss plan for providers would be if you guys would request all cowgirl sessions. I've recently begun incorporating a new move that really works my quads to the burning point.
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Add to that the fact that guys are constantly bringing me chocolate, alcoholic beverages, and desert. Guys hardly ever brings me carrot sticks.
SS, the next time you are in H-town I will bring you and whole salad box

Usually the ladies I see, I take those little Rocher Ferrero's and they seem to love it but than what would be better carrot sticks or chocolates?

Regarding the guy who got pie and ice cream was not so cool especially if you had already said that you wanted some lunch.
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SS, the next time you are in H-town I will bring you and whole salad box

Usually the ladies I see, I take those little Rocher Ferrero's and they seem to love it but than what would be better carrot sticks or chocolates?

Regarding the guy who got pie and ice cream was not so cool especially if you had already said that you wanted some lunch.
I'm sure the ladies sincerely appreciate your Rocher Ferrero's. I know they are one of my favorites -- but I'd rather a guy bring a sensuous salad of ripe fruits such as kiwis, strawberries, peaches, raspberries and mangoes.... then we can feed each other.
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I'm sure the ladies sincerely appreciate your Rocher Ferrero's. I know they are one of my favorites -- but I'd rather a guy bring a sensuous salad of ripe fruits such as kiwis, strawberries, peaches, raspberries and mangoes.... then we can feed each other.
I was speechless for a second, I will bring both!

Oh Damn! I can't wait!

Are you in Houston yet?

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Just my 2 cents on this subject:
As sad as it is in the hobby.. it is true that 98% of the time, the hobbyist is visiting a lady because the initial photo got him interested, and he is expecting to meet the lady from the picture. Once he has established a rapore with said lady, and visits her from time to time he is expecting that she is maintaining herself, weight and all. I think that if a lady gains more than 10 to 15 lbs at some point, she owes it to her clientele to update her pictures making all aware of her current “new look”. I see it the same way as you would if you were deciding on who to hire for weight training, you see the ad with the “fit” muscled person, and the ad with the “not so fit” trainer, who are you likely to hire? Looks do speak volumes about how one cares for ones self. If your in the modeling biz, or any kind of business where appearances are of importance, you best try to keep up, if you want to stay in biz.
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