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11-18-2012, 09:42 PM
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I would love to find a sb, but because I don't travel much and I am in relatively small town I don't see how it would work as far as the ability to share my world travels, fine wine and dining. Maybe in a city like Chicago it would work out great. I would think that there would be young ladies trying to figure out how to either enter into the world of a sb, escor, t or just trying to figure out what they could live with conscious wise. Wouldn't this be a site they would lurk on trying to figure out their options? I would think so.
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11-20-2012, 09:05 AM
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Not everyone frequents these boards and has seen similar topics. Still, you sound like a good Sugar Daddy! I'm curious how the financial conversation goes. Do women get offended when you offer them money?
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Most true SBs dont even know they are one. We look for the one that comes up to us, they talk and they tell us they have to go to another job after they get out of this one in 20 minutes. They say they have a car issue or something. Just general chit chat.
Mine was at a drug store where she worked. She had no clue who I was. Had no idea I had money and had no idea what a sugar baby was. I visited her a few times and talked to her about a dog she had. She was paying 115 a week to house the dog while she looked for a place. She lived with her mother, had a part time job, not in college and was just making it check to check. No car or DL, no hopes or plans for the future and lived day by day.
Now she is in school full time, has a full time job, a car, her own place and a DL of course. She has a couple thousand in the bank and she just introduced me to her manager at her company and our company is partnering with hers. She was promoted because of it. She is 19 years old.
The issue with a provider and a sugar baby is the provider leans more towards the money. A sugar baby looks for a mentor, someone to lean on and guide her through life as well as money or shopping trips etc. I tried to give her money a couple weeks ago and she refused it saying she doesnt neet it and still has checks she hasnt cashed on her fridge.
It took 7 months to go from wanting a sugar daddy to being my mistress.
I see her every day and am having lunch at her place today. We wont have sexual contact, its just lunch.
If a provider could look at terms like that and get money out of the head for once that is what it takes to be a real sugar baby. Other wise, you are just a hooker on retainer.
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11-20-2012, 12:34 PM
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Most true SBs dont even know they are one. We look for the one that comes up to us, they talk and they tell us they have to go to another job after they get out of this one in 20 minutes. They say they have a car issue or something. Just general chit chat.
Mine was at a drug store where she worked. She had no clue who I was. Had no idea I had money and had no idea what a sugar baby was. I visited her a few times and talked to her about a dog she had. She was paying 115 a week to house the dog while she looked for a place. She lived with her mother, had a part time job, not in college and was just making it check to check. No car or DL, no hopes or plans for the future and lived day by day.
Now she is in school full time, has a full time job, a car, her own place and a DL of course. She has a couple thousand in the bank and she just introduced me to her manager at her company and our company is partnering with hers. She was promoted because of it. She is 19 years old.
The issue with a provider and a sugar baby is the provider leans more towards the money. A sugar baby looks for a mentor, someone to lean on and guide her through life as well as money or shopping trips etc. I tried to give her money a couple weeks ago and she refused it saying she doesnt neet it and still has checks she hasnt cashed on her fridge.
It took 7 months to go from wanting a sugar daddy to being my mistress.
I see her every day and am having lunch at her place today. We wont have sexual contact, its just lunch.
If a provider could look at terms like that and get money out of the head for once that is what it takes to be a real sugar baby. Other wise, you are just a hooker on retainer.
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+1,000 I can't applaud this comment enough! Most people look aside the fact that a SB/SD relationship is supposed to be nurturing, and not an option for bargain pussy. It takes more respect than that to call yourself a true Sugar daddy.
Personally, I like being a provider or being in whatever situation it takes for me to be financially stable. I'm absolutely impatient when it comes to establishing long-term relationships when the financial aspect is disregarded and uncertain. With that being said, I think many of us providers have a difficult time with investing time into relationship like these.
However, I have met some wonderful gentlemen who have given me great experiences that I would've never given myself. (Shopping Spree's, Fine Dining, Spa Trips, etc.) For instance, my previous SD bought me a small Michael Kors purse from Dillard's. It was only $278, but I was SO astonished because I received my first designer handbag. No knockoffs from the purse man in the hood...this was a luxury that I could not afford with my own money.
Even though he is long gone, I think about him and smile when I open up my closet and see my tan MK purse. I hope he is doing well and is cherished by a lady who was able to give him more time than myself. Being a sugar baby is very, very, very, time consuming. When you are a provider, you devote an hour or so to a paying customer. When you are a sugar baby, you devote trust and companionship with a gentlemen.
Believe it or not, there are many men out there who would love to help and confide in a lady. You'd be surprise what kind of men you can bump into at Golf courses, Gyms, Horse Tracks, and etc. Hell, a good friend of mine found her SD at a gas station!
And about sex, I must say that it feels different to have sex with a man who is truly, and genuinely concerned with your best interests, as opposed to a paying customer. A shopping spree to Victoria's Secret makes me drop my panties, .
Oh and I had to post this picture. I always think of this when someone mentions a SD/SB relationship...RIP Anna Nicole.
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11-20-2012, 06:11 PM
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I started off having a sugar daddy and it was wonderful. He was fun to hang out with and made me feel special. Being a SB is nice because you travel and get taken care of by one man. I left the SDSB relationship because I wanted to be single honestly. I was not looking to potentially get married anytime soon and you might find an SD like that but most want some sort of relationship. Which is fine but after two years of SD I was ready to be single. Both are great ways to go. I have clients now that I hang out with off the "clock" like an SD but when it comes down to appointments they always take care of me and I know ill see them within the month and if not no biggie. That's the beauty of it all because most likely your not counting on that one guy like the SDSB relationship.
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11-20-2012, 09:29 PM
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You'll never find a SD on those websites. Those sites are flooded with broke men hoping to find young girls to take advantage of in exchange for dinner or drinks. Luckily for them, ignorant gold diggers are in abundance.*
Many of the ladies looking for an SD are doing so with the hopes that an SD will PROVIDE for them all of their living expenses plus shower them with extravagances they themselves could not even dream of affording. If that seems like a fairytale, it's because it is.*
No man wants another DEPENDANT. Add another responsibility to your own load and see how excited that makes you. Turn off!
I can understand why some men love being SDs, it's not for sex with a hot girl or to take care of a woman - the attraction is something completely different. I assume the attraction lies more in the mentorship an established person can provide to someone of less means. The satisfaction of making a real difference in the life of another that truly appreciates the opportunity.
For the ladies, here's something to help you put it in perspective. I once joined a mentoring program - I was 24 at the time and mentored a girl in junior high. She had been labeled "at risk" due to her family circumstances and was on the edge of becoming a statistic. She was nice enough but lacked the humility one needs to really succeed in life. Her family was dirt poor and she didn't have a jacket - once after taking her to a movie, I took her to the mall. Instead of being grateful, she showed disinterest in anything practical and only wanted an expensive brand named coat that served no purpose in keeping her warm.
Take her to a museum and she would shrug off the lesson and instead harp on why I didn't take her to an amusement park. Whatever I gave her wasn't enough, odd considering she literally had nothing and had been no where outside of a 5 mile radius of her house. When she called to say her mom needed me to bring pampers for her brother, I quit! I was just her money ticket and I felt used. I imagine many ladies in the industry are the same way.
There's an 11 year old boy down the street that roams the block like a lost dog. If I give him anything, he is grateful. Last Xmas he knocked on my door and I quickly assembled a gift bag with a gingerbread cookie, box of instant cocoa, Xmas music cd and a wrapped Cowboys Santa hat I received at the game - you'd think he hit the lotto! He never asks but I enjoy giving him things because I know he's an afterthought in his moms life and even the smallest gift makes a difference in his life. During the summer I'd drive-by and see him playing - I'd ask him what kind of milkshake he'd like and his answer was always the same "ANYTHING" ... His attitude makes all the difference.*
I can see why men would approach young women busting their asses for minimum wage at shitty jobs - it shows their character.*
Luckily for any ladies in this biz, their is an option to NOT have to share your body with various men - it's called a J-O-B ... Millions of people around the world get up and do it everyday.
I know I'm going to get a lot of sh&t for this but that's just my $.02 .... I busted my a$$ off working graveyard for $9 an hour in college and a man of means would have been a much needed blessing. I certainly would've appreciated any assistance and in return I wouldn't piss off the opportunity by becoming complacent and entitled.
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11-20-2012, 10:22 PM
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You'll never find a SD on those websites. Those sites are flooded with broke men hoping to find young girls to take advantage of in exchange for dinner or drinks. Luckily for them, ignorant gold diggers are in abundance.*
Many of the ladies looking for an SD are doing so with the hopes that an SD will PROVIDE for them all of their living expenses plus shower them with extravagances they themselves could not even dream of affording. If that seems like a fairytale, it's because it is.*
No man wants another DEPENDANT. Add another responsibility to your own load and see how excited that makes you. Turn off!
I can understand why some men love being SDs, it's not for sex with a hot girl or to take care of a woman - the attraction is something completely different. I assume the attraction lies more in the mentorship an established person can provide to someone of less means. The satisfaction of making a real difference in the life of another that truly appreciates the opportunity.
For the ladies, here's something to help you put it in perspective. I once joined a mentoring program - I was 24 at the time and mentored a girl in junior high. She had been labeled "at risk" due to her family circumstances and was on the edge of becoming a statistic. She was nice enough but lacked the humility one needs to really succeed in life. Her family was dirt poor and she didn't have a jacket - once after taking her to a movie, I took her to the mall. Instead of being grateful, she showed disinterest in anything practical and only wanted an expensive brand named coat that served no purpose in keeping her warm.
Take her to a museum and she would shrug off the lesson and instead harp on why I didn't take her to an amusement park. Whatever I gave her wasn't enough, odd considering she literally had nothing and had been no where outside of a 5 mile radius of her house. When she called to say her mom needed me to bring pampers for her brother, I quit! I was just her money ticket and I felt used. I imagine many ladies in the industry are the same way.
There's an 11 year old boy down the street that roams the block like a lost dog. If I give him anything, he is grateful. Last Xmas he knocked on my door and I quickly assembled a gift bag with a gingerbread cookie, box of instant cocoa, Xmas music cd and a wrapped Cowboys Santa hat I received at the game - you'd think he hit the lotto! He never asks but I enjoy giving him things because I know he's an afterthought in his moms life and even the smallest gift makes a difference in his life. During the summer I'd drive-by and see him playing - I'd ask him what kind of milkshake he'd like and his answer was always the same "ANYTHING" ... His attitude makes all the difference.*
I can see why men would approach young women busting their asses for minimum wage at shitty jobs - it shows their character.*
Luckily for any ladies in this biz, their is an option to NOT have to share your body with various men - it's called a J-O-B ... Millions of people around the world get up and do it everyday.
I know I'm going to get a lot of sh&t for this but that's just my $.02 .... I busted my a$$ off working graveyard for $9 an hour in college and a man of means would have been a much needed blessing. I certainly would've appreciated any assistance and in return I wouldn't piss off the opportunity by becoming complacent and entitled.
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AMEN! I think some escorts can be disillusioned by what they have already gotten from men in the hobby and expect alot more from a SD. But civi ladies are much more appreciaive of what they get from SD's. Honestly I don't want to depend on one man for my livelihood- that's just me. Having options gives me freedom.
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11-20-2012, 11:46 PM
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I second Energy's +1000.
What is interesting is that there are quite a few girls doing their boyfriend-shopping in the SD/SB market not because they want money but because they want a boyfriend who CAN take them someplace nice, who DOES know how to treat a woman well, as opposed to what she finds in the guys immediately around her all day every day.
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11-21-2012, 12:11 AM
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Kloie, bear in mind that those girls are looking for an UNCOMPENSATED relationship, with a BOYFRIEND, not a compensated arrangement with an SD. They shop on the SD/SB sites because it does some basic screening for them. They're not necessarily looking for guys who WILL give them money, but rather for guys who HAVE the money to treat them reasonably well.
Dinner someplace reasonably nice, traveling in a nice in-repair car with heating and A/C that works, things like that...
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11-21-2012, 11:12 AM
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It isnt hard finding a sugar daddy
Getting him will be a different story.
We will look for you, You wont even know we are hitting on you.
We will ask a few questions, we will come back and see you.
We have time for a worth while relationship
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11-21-2012, 11:45 AM
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I want a Sweet Princess to be a sugar daddy too but I don't think I would have enough money. Could somebody tell what a sugar baby expects fron her sugar daddy as far as money and other things? I thought I had a Sweet Princess that I could kind of be a sugar daddy for but I guess I screwed up somewhere. Any help Sweet Princesses?
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11-21-2012, 03:57 PM
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Well I wouldn't call them Sweet Princess. It sounds rather creepy
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11-21-2012, 04:47 PM
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I want a Sweet Princess to be a sugar daddy too but I don't think I would have enough money. Could somebody tell what a sugar baby expects fron her sugar daddy as far as money and other things? I thought I had a Sweet Princess that I could kind of be a sugar daddy for but I guess I screwed up somewhere. Any help Sweet Princesses?
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I would rather have you be my wonderful sugar daddy than my doting slave.
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11-21-2012, 05:35 PM
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No really knowing what I'm talking about, shouldn't part of the duties for a sugar daddy to be a sort of doting slave- to please his Sweet Princes? After reading some of the posts in this thread I don't think I could go to that extent. I guess I would like to know if what I've been providing is good enough.
Whtat's creeping about calling a lady Sweet Princess? I guess it could be considered creepy, but that would dpend on who you're referring to.
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11-22-2012, 06:05 AM
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No, you are not a doting slave. You would be her mentor, someone older that has the means to help her, money or teaching.
It could be sexual if that is what she is seeking but more times it is about showing them the right fork to eat with, how to dress for dinner and to start moving away from four tank tops and a tight pair of yoga pants to go out in.
Show her that a man opens a door for a woman and if hers doesn’t then the place must be closed and to turn around and walk back to the car. You show her how to interact in public with people and to hold a conversation. You mentor her. Be the daddy.
As far as sweet princess goes, you can call them anything you want. From this side it just looks creepy and I have been doing this for a very long time.
Despite what most older guys think, most girls don’t like being called babe, baby, or names of that nature. But just like there are different colors, there are different attitudes about this.
Most guys on here and outside of this site are looking for young girls to get a cheap fuck from. If this is you they may have regrets about it later. I don’t know though of course. They could be looking to be an UTR provider.
The term sugar daddy has been corrupted over the years. Some look at it as getting a co-ed to fuck for a nickel. Some think they have to have a private jet in order to be one. I think you have to know how to treat a young woman just getting out on her own.
I say this to the girls I am in a relationship with. I don’t remember where I got it form but it stuck with me.
“You are a bird that left the nest, you keep looking at the nest walking around trying to find a way back in. I know you don’t need the nest. You need to learn how to fly, that, I can teach you ”
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11-22-2012, 10:57 AM
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This thread really shows the difference between how SD/SB really think. I mean, when you see providers talking about SD sites and guys looking for "bargain pussy" and really look at what they're saying, it's about the money.
Yeah, money is a component of that. It's one of the things in our toolbox. What what Gotyou6 said about teaching someone to fly is right on spot. It's that drive to guide, mentor, advise and see a young girl flower into a beautiful, refined lady and being able to be a part of that process. And yeah, sex is a component as well. But the sex and the money don't make the relationship.
Also in our toolbox is years of life experience, introspection, observation, successes, failures, and an ability to share that experience with another. While financial help might be a factor at the start of the relationship, often the end goal is to teach how to live without needing that help. We don't want a dependent that wants to stay dependent.
Sorry, girls, but IMO, you still don't get it. It's about how men nurture. I guess psychologically it's a mixture of our parental drives and out sexual drives.
To a SD, a SB is attracted to the complete package of what we offer in life, not just what our wallet brings. To a SB, a SD is attracted to the potential he sees in her as a person, not just her pussy. For both, the process of growth is essential.
The SB should come out of the relationship more independent, wiser, mature and equipped to succeed in life. The SD gains a huge emotional satisfaction from protecting, encouraging and nurturing this process.
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