Reviews for clients!!??

[5T3V3]

well if you want to know what a guy is like you should take an appointment with him and then if you don't like it --- don't take any more. After all this a YMMV business any ways and just because one provider hits it off and you don't ... maybe he just had a bad day ... maybe there were extenuating circumstances to the appointment ... we aren't robots you know ...

any ways ... one of you girls will always post something like that if we ask more info on you

thought it would be nice to put the shoe on the other foot so to speak

happy hobbying!

[Luvs2Purrr]

Here's a few points.....

1. It doesn't matter if it might be a good idea for Providers to write reviews on Clients. Because it already seems to be that there may be some ladies that leak out information to those that we speak of in our private forums. Which I'm sure there are a few white knights out there if something is said badly about us that they come to our rescue and let us know.
Would it make it easier for us Providers to screen?....Absolutely! But also think about this one....Not only do Providers have bad days and my not perform the same every day, but that is also true about men. They may have an off day as well.

2. 5t3v3 has a valid point. Could the men really handle some of the things that might be in the reviews about them? So, maybe that should also be taken in consideration when the men write reviews about us Providers. We all have our needs. We all can be sensitive at times. So, for some of those "No" reviews on any given day. Don't you think about the Providers feelings and maybe she was just having an off set day herself.

We are all here for a reason. Whether it is too have fun....Needs aren't met at home....just need something different once in a while....behind on paying bills....enjoy meeting new and different people. So many reasons why all of us are here. So, let's just make the best of it!

[thenational]

Originally Posted by Snow Kitten

I think the providers should be able to write reviews for clients that are hidden like the ROS for the providers! I think it would be safer for providers and easier when it comes to screening.

For the hookers who truly have too much time on their hands (and obviously not enough clients)....

[ben dover]

Ok if you want something like a thumbs up or thumbs down deal put it in the powder room. I sure as hell wont be shelling out hard earned cash to be criticized about my performance or how small my unit is or how fast i'm done and curled up in a fetal position weeping. I am PAYING and as long as i'm PAYING.... IMO you don't get to tell the world about our time together... at least not in a public forum. I'm sure it get's shared among the providers privately............. BD

[Sd_saluki]

Isn't verification that I am a certified hobbyist good enough? There's multiple boards (local and national) to verify the legitimacy of a hobbyist especially if one hobbies frequently.

[Guest081115-1]

YMMV. depends on chemistry to each their own. One bad experience and one awesomeness.

NO, I don't want to write for a gent. Why? I do my best to cater to his need. After all it was his choice to have chosen to see me and that I am grateful for it.

I rather not know what happen between his last visit with previous provider. So, I can focus what is in front of me. Woman's brain is like a bee hive we keeps so much information and that will mess up the mind.

Just taking it easy and let it flow in the nature. Why know before hand to spoil the fun?

[Old-T]

The topic comes up often, and the comments never really change. When you go through the arguments it typically comes down to a rather blatant double standard.

Originally Posted by Sd_saluki

Isn't verification that I am a certified hobbyist good enough? There's multiple boards (local and national) to verify the legitimacy of a hobbyist especially if one hobbies frequently.

This assumes every lady is only out to see as many clients as she can, and is not "allowed" to scale her dates back to guys she thinks she would actually enjoy being with. Is it good enough for YOU that a lady is certified as safe and "good"--or do YOU actually want to see pictures, read reviews about activities, personality, etc. But somehow many guys think every woman is desperate enough that they shouldn't be at all picky about their clients.

Originally Posted by ben dover

Ok if you want something like a thumbs up or thumbs down deal put it in the powder room. I sure as hell wont be shelling out hard earned cash to be criticized about my performance or how small my unit is or how fast i'm done and curled up in a fetal position weeping. I am PAYING and as long as i'm PAYING.... IMO you don't get to tell the world about our time together... at least not in a public forum. I'm sure it get's shared among the providers privately............. BD

Again, would YOU be content if the entirety of a review of the ladies was a thumbs up or thumbs down? I suspect not.

Originally Posted by thenational

For the hookers who truly have too much time on their hands (and obviously not enough clients)....

Is it not the same for guys who write reviews? Do they have too much time on their hands?

Originally Posted by Cyndi Lyn

Here's a few points.....

1. It doesn't matter if it might be a good idea for Providers to write reviews on Clients. Because it already seems to be that there may be some ladies that leak out information to those that we speak of in our private forums. Which I'm sure there are a few white knights out there if something is said badly about us that they come to our rescue and let us know.
Would it make it easier for us Providers to screen?....Absolutely! But also think about this one....Not only do Providers have bad days and my not perform the same every day, but that is also true about men. They may have an off day as well.
Exactly--it is true about men and women both.

2. 5t3v3 has a valid point. Could the men really handle some of the things that might be in the reviews about them? That is the crux of it. There are a lot of rather insecure guys in this business. So, maybe that should also be taken in consideration when the men write reviews about us Providers. We all have our needs. We all can be sensitive at times. So, for some of those "No" reviews on any given day. Don't you think about the Providers feelings and maybe she was just having an off set day herself. No, many do not.

We are all here for a reason. Whether it is too have fun....Needs aren't met at home....just need something different once in a while....behind on paying bills....enjoy meeting new and different people. So many reasons why all of us are here. So, let's just make the best of it!

Now I will sit back and wait for the inevitable counter-fire that comes whenever this topic is addresses.

[Luvs2Purrr]

@ Old-T....YOU ROCK!!

QUOTE: This assumes every lady is only out to see as many clients as she can, and is not "allowed" to scale her dates back to guys she thinks she would actually enjoy being with. Is it good enough for YOU that a lady is certified as safe and "good"--or do YOU actually want to see pictures, read reviews about activities, personality, etc. But somehow many guys think every woman is desperate enough that they shouldn't be at all picky about their clients.

[wildwooly1]

I really don't care if I'm reviewed or not but I would hope that if I was it would be good things said about me..lol. But what kind of things make a client good?
Does the sex even count or make a difference with the provider or do they just want a easy to satisfy client that doesn't haggle and pays well and leaves a tip or gift?
And another aspect of this if a provider has a real good client would she want to tell all the other providers about him? Why share?

[anita]

I don't think it is a good idea IMO. Some guys do not even post reviews or participate on the board, because they want to stay under the radar. There is the alert section and the women only section to share infos if he is dangerous nc/ns etc. I don't feel writing a review is necessary.

[SinsOfTheFlesh]

Originally Posted by Old-T

The topic comes up often, and the comments never really change. When you go through the arguments it typically comes down to a rather blatant double standard.

It is a double standard, because hobbyists and providers are two halves of a whole, but we are not the same. Thus, the standards each operates by are different.


This assumes every lady is only out to see as many clients as she can, and is not "allowed" to scale her dates back to guys she thinks she would actually enjoy being with. Is it good enough for YOU that a lady is certified as safe and "good"--or do YOU actually want to see pictures, read reviews about activities, personality, etc. But somehow many guys think every woman is desperate enough that they shouldn't be at all picky about their clients.

His comment in no way assumes that every lady is out to see as many clients as possible. Nor are the standards by which women make their decisions the same standards by which make their decisions.

A reference is pretty straightforward - "yes, he is legitimate, no hygiene issues, he was polite and respectful." Any details beyond that are gravy.

Men however, are paying for a service, so it is perfectly acceptable for them to want more than basic information.

Its not about women being so desperate that we don't have the luxury of being picky. However, to be absolutely blunt, we aren't here to date. Physical attractiveness, or lack thereof isn't a consideration we worry about. If it is an issue for a provider, her career is likely to be a short one.

Again, would YOU be content if the entirety of a review of the ladies was a thumbs up or thumbs down? I suspect not.

See above.

Is it not the same for guys who write reviews? Do they have too much time on their hands?

Now I will sit back and wait for the inevitable counter-fire that comes whenever this topic is addresses.

Could the men really handle some of the things that might be in the reviews about them? That is the crux of it. There are a lot of rather insecure guys in this business.

It isn't about men being insecure. We see men across every demographic. Good looking men, average looking men. Old men and young men. Skinny men, and fat men. We also see men who for any number of reasons, see providers as their only option. This is not their hobby, nor do they see us merely for convenience, or for an adventure. The last thing some men need is to be judged, criticized, or analyzed. Its about much more than the fabled frail male ego.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by SinsOfTheFlesh

It isn't about men being insecure. We see men across every demographic. Good looking men, average looking men. Old men and young men. Skinny men, and fat men. We also see men who for any number of reasons, see providers as their only option. This is not their hobby, nor do they see us merely for convenience, or for an adventure. The last thing some men need is to be judged, criticized, or analyzed. Its about much more than the fabled frail male ego.

I find most your posts interesting and thoughtful, and this one is no exception. Some of your points I agree with, some I do not. I think many of the areas we disagree are a matter of the lenses we are looking through.

I'd like to comment on a few of your points. I no longer see many new (to me) ladies. I have found a small number of ladies who I am very comfortable with, and they with me, and tend to see them. Most of them are now very UTR and escort to supplement their income, not as the primary source. Some escort because they are far too busy with their careers/children that they don't want any "serious" BF but they like being wined & dined--and they like the sex. For them it is the form of dating that they think fits their needs, at least for now.

They very much screen for compatibility because they only see about one person a week and have more requests than that. Safe and clean is not always sufficient. We have talked about the topic at times and I know they would like some more descriptive reviews, though not necessarily the graphic parts. They would like to know grooming/dress, sense of humor, talkativeness, cuddling quotient, etc. Looks seem far less important to most of them, but knowing that HE won't embarrass HER in public is important. One lady is concerned about avoiding very large men in length/girth because she is unusually small in that department and does not want him to arrive and she has to refuse some things because it physically won't fit--she thinks that is not fair to him.

Generally they seem to uses e-mails or phone calls to get this information from the potential date, but just as it would be insufficient to accept a guy's word that he is "safe", these ladies would like another woman's perspective. Those that do make it through their screening seem to have a very high rate of recidivism. Yes, some ladies do want the gravy.

So to some degree I do believe that when a guy essentially says that a lady shouldn't be concerned about more than if a guy is safe, then yes, I do believe there is some degree of disrespect, though often unthinkingly so.

Could the men really handle some of the things that might be in the reviews about them? That is the crux of it. There are a lot of rather insecure guys in this business.

It isn't about men being insecure. We see men across every demographic. Good looking men, average looking men. Old men and young men. Skinny men, and fat men. We also see men who for any number of reasons, see providers as their only option. This is not their hobby, nor do they see us merely for convenience, or for an adventure. The last thing some men need is to be judged, criticized, or analyzed. Its about much more than the fabled frail male ego.

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I agree that discretion is exceedingly important both ways. I have never reviewed a lady who asked me not to unless it was alert-worthy, and fortunately it has been many many years since I had one of those. In the same way I would think a lady should never review a man who asked not to be reviewed, or who seemed in any way uncomfortable. I certainly understand that men see ladies for many reasons, and some of those lead to encounters that should never be reviewed from either side. No, most men don't have overly sensitive egos, but I still think that some of the most vocal "Women who even think about writing reviews should be struck dead on the spot!!!!" men are indeed insecure, and often not about their sexual performance.

I doubt I have convinced you to change your mind--that was not my intent. But I did wish to amplify/clarify a couple of the things I had said.

[Solitaire]

While it's funny to think about and imagine, I would guess that, in reality, such a thing would create quite an unecessary shit-storm.

NR has a version of it and I don't even participate in that. I'll leave the fishin' stories to the fishermen.

[Jabr]

I can see why you may feel that there's an unfairness with having reviews for providers and not for clients, but consider this: most guys don't have a circle of peers in the hobby that they can solicit information from. That's what happens when you check references on a client, isn't it?

[5T3V3]

FAIR? if life was fair I would be able to sell my body for sex and then I could be making money instead of spending it!