Not the Party of Our Fathers

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

You’re not voting democrat so why keep whining about their ideas. You’re gonna vote republican so you should spend your time and effort complaining about how badly the nuRepublican party has failed at being the party of big ideas. Ultimately, why would any democrat give a half a shit what you think they should be pursuing policy wise? Why would any democrat want to be “your view” of what policies and ideas they are pursuing?

I think those answers are obvious.

... Well, .. IT IS his thread...

### Salty

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

You’re not voting democrat so why keep whining about their ideas. You’re gonna vote republican so you should spend your time and effort complaining about how badly the nuRepublican party has failed at being the party of big ideas. Ultimately, why would any democrat give a half a shit what you think they should be pursuing policy wise? Why would any democrat want to be “your view” of what policies and ideas they are pursuing?

I think those answers are obvious.

Please re-read my post #14. That explains my reasons for posting as I do.

Ratrher than focusing on me or the political personalities, , lets discuss the policy differences between the progressive left and those who wish to raise up our American society.

[ICU 812]

Here are a few openers:

1. The "inflation Reduction Act" will not. It adds spending and taxes. Taxes on big business will be passed on to working class consumers at a time when we can least afford it.

2. The renewable energy provisions will burden our electric grids to the breaking point. Just think what will happen when everyone goes home and plugs in their EV just as the sun goes down.

#. Every jobless illegal alien is a burden on our social safety net system, local and national. The external root causes of this influx are that 90% of the globe's countries are desprete places to live. Even many European countries have a lower level of living.

4. Catch-and-release or no cash bail policies across the Nation have repetedly released casreer criminals into our society. This benifits no one except these career criminals. Law abiding citizens cannot walk the streets in safety . . .even in nice areas and in broad daylight.

Re-read the goals and purpose set out in the Preamble to The Constitution. Every numbered point above works against those aspirations.

Leave-off criticizing me and others on this board. Leave-off talking sabot the failings of our prominent politicians on either side. Lets address the issues listed above, or some other relevant issue.

[1blackman1]

Democrats 2022 and 2024. No matter what they do it’ll be better than what the republicans will pass. In the last republican congress they passed 1 piece of legislation that didn’t address anything.

Democrats pass legislation. Republicans complain and whine. .

[ICU 812]

So, no one wants to address any of the points brought up above?

So far, all I am reading here is invective of one sort or another. This is not a grade school playground. Say something meaningful.

Can anyone explain to me how raising taxes on companies will not result in higher prices for working class consumers?

[1blackman1]

No one cares what your opinion is evidently. Why argue with you about something you “believe“ regardless of the facts.

How about this? Does lowering taxes on companies result in lowering of prices? Companies got a tax cut in 2017 and prices increased as well as company profits. Is it you “belief” that the math only works in one direction? Did prices decrease by 15-20% like the tax cuts companies received or did the profits increase by 10%?

[ICU 812]

From that response I infer that the proposition is that raising taxes on businesses will lower inflation . . .is that the argument? A deadlock on inflation; fair enough. We'll drop the complexities of economics then.

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Lets look at #4: The spike in crime.

Here in the Houston area, the County and City judicial system is releasing multiple offenders without bail or on very low bail regardless of their previous arrest record or the seriousness of their current charge. There is a core of career criminals violently terrorizing the public. It has become unsafe to walk the streets in broad daylight regardless of what part of town one is in.

Ths is not a personal belief or opinion. This catch-and-release of valent repeat criminals is reported on every day by the local mainstream news outlets.

What could Democratic leadership for the Houston area (City and County) do to change that? Or for Biltmore, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles or New York?

[1blackman1]

Same things republicans do, not much. Crime is up everywhere, no matter whether the city is run by dems or republicans, big cities and small alike. It’s a sad cycle, crime was going down for years, now it’s going up. If you believe it’s down in republican run cities you’re mistaken. Covid prevented a lot of crime for quite a while since people were sitting home. Also sadly led to an increase in crime when folks got back to the streets.

Your buddy Bannon is out on bail after being found guilty of another crime. I suspect you believe he should be sitting behind bars awaiting trial.

[ICU 812]

Here in the Houston area, the last local election brought in a new batch of folks at the top leadership positions. Well, the people have spoken, and we have who we have. Who they are, and their party affiliation is less important than what they are doing.

There is a lot to unpack, but I'll focus only on crime.

In the judicial arena, the elected county administrator (in Texas the title is "County Judge"") has appointed prosecutors who refuse to charge repute criminals with serious crimes. When a career criminal IS charged, the elected judges will not set bail and the offender is released within 24 hours and often in the same day. There have been cases of murder where the accused was back on the streets before the family could get their deceased loved one buried. Out on the street sand threatening potential witnesses to their crime.

There are cases here where some guy is arrested for something like carjacking involving injurious assault, and it is found that he is out on a Personal Recognizance bond (often for the same thing) send has multiple pending charges for several (many) other crimes.

Public records have shown that the large number of crimes, often violent crimes, are being committed here by a relatively small number of folks who make their living through violent crime. In the area's overall population of several million, the number of repute criminals is something under 200. This has been documented. It is not a subjective opinion.

In the "good old days" (before the last election) these guys would still be in jail until their case came to trial. Now, they are back at violent crime before the victims are out of the hospital or decently buried. They know that whatever they do, there will not be any substantive consequences.

Whether or not there is a change in the party affiliation of the County and City leadership here in Houston is not as important as a change in the people who are letting these career criminals run free over the greater Houston area.

It is policy not party that truly matters.

[1blackman1]

Bail is set by judges (sitting on the bench) rather than who’s mayor, judge (county president) or city or county counsel. I suspect in Texas (I’ve not practiced there since the late 90s) changing bail rules would be a legislative issue and the republican legislature and governor could do or could have done something about it any time they wanted. The real question is “why haven’t they eliminated bail or made the rules really simple or limited and taken judicial discretion out of the equation”?

You blame democrats in this instance for “bail” issues that really sit in the hands of republicans in the Texas legislature. If they thought bail was a problem they have had all the ability in the world to fix the issue for years. Abbott and the legislature can pass a bill tomorrow that says “no bail if a person has be charged with another crime in the past 5 years”. It’d be a fix to a problem you claim is related to local democrats. So why hasn’t the republicans fixed that problem?

[ICU 812]

But it is not just Houston.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_qdm501LM&t=170s

[1blackman1]

Like I said. It’s a state legislative issue. Not a judicial issue. Criminal laws and criminal procedure (under which bail and bond rules falls) are set by legislatures. So the gov and legislature of the state could make bail really difficult rather than leaving it to judges.

[Yssup Rider]

Cities don’t make the rules in such matters in Texas.

Churches and the lobby do.

[ICU 812]

The local officials in the Houston area who are responsible for releasing or not charging and prosecuting repeat offenders are either directly elected or appointed by someone who is elected. Regardless of party, these are the folks who need to be replaced by the voters.

In the Houston area, the electorate seems to be predominantly Democrat leaning. they are the people who can affect change for the better and reverse the current civil chaos and challenge to public safety. It will not come from the Democratic establishment of powerbrokers, donors and lobbyists.

[1blackman1]

Or legislators could do their job. Ultimately they can set bail rules as they like. Judges can’t. And that’s the rub. You can’t admit where the real issue lies because it’s counter to your narrative. So you keep pushing the same bullshit line. And at that point is it really a discussion. You should just acknowledge you’re a hack complaining and facts don’t matter to you.