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Old 06-02-2020, 08:02 AM   #16
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Real conservatives do.

9500- as if U would have the slightest understanding of Conservatism - or anything to do with Conservative individuals.

Will fits right in with your One issue agenda -Destroy America to defeat Trump - U and the rest of the DPST's.

The critcisms below ur posts are all valid.


Now - 9500- post Ur memes of Lenny, Roby, and YSL and go back to Ur elitist armchair and rock urself to sleep with a snifter of expensive, elitist brandy.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:16 AM   #17
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george will is a washington dc elitist and a never trumper.

he puts out some good stuff from time to time when he's not in his anti-trump fits. georgie boy is somewhat conservative on most issues.

if trump by chance supports his positions, he runs far away from that position all because trump supports it.

has george will written any articles that supported or on the low side agree with trump?


I haven't seen one, if he did, I missed it.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:23 AM   #18
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not since H...opened an account in Russian rubles for george!
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Old 06-03-2020, 03:32 PM   #19
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It's as simple as this: George Will is a true conservative. Donald Trump (didn't he used to be a democrat?) is not. Trump is a con-man who wants his "conservative" base to vote for him. He couldn't care less about real issues. He just wants you to help him make money, and bolster his reputation.
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:41 PM   #20
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Thank u- ts
George Will can go post about baseball - something he knows a little bit about.

He is just a fellow Trump-hater to u.
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Old 06-03-2020, 07:06 PM   #21
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Thank u- ts
George Will can go post about baseball - something he knows a little bit about.

He is just a fellow Trump-hater to u.
George Will never played a serious inning in baseball. So he’s ignorant on that subject too.
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Old 06-03-2020, 08:21 PM   #22
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It's as simple as this: George Will is a true conservative. Donald Trump (didn't he used to be a democrat?) is not. Trump is a con-man who wants his "conservative" base to vote for him. He couldn't care less about real issues. He just wants you to help him make money, and bolster his reputation.
George Will stopped bein a true conservative when he left the Republican party and decided it was more important to defeat Trump than liberal/letfist ideology.

I remember reading something of his several months ago where he was actually touting Biden along the lines that he'd make a nice break for voters in the upcoming election.

No, true conservative is going to tout Biden ever.

And to be wishing for Republican Senate loses, which very possibly turns control of the Senate over to the left would also never escape the lips of a true conservative.

Denigrate, bash, bitch about Trump all you want, but don't automatically turn your support to the left as much of what Will says leads to.
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Old 06-03-2020, 09:15 PM   #23
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It's as simple as this: George Will is a true conservative. Donald Trump (didn't he used to be a democrat?) is not. Trump is a con-man who wants his "conservative" base to vote for him. He couldn't care less about real issues. He just wants you to help him make money, and bolster his reputation.
I've had this discussion with friends, all of whom are economic conservatives and the majority of whom are social conservatives. I point out that Trump was pro-Choice. He wanted to raise taxes on the upper middle class but Gary Cohn talked him out of it. He did indeed used to be a Democrat. So why do you support him so strongly? A universal response is because he'll appoint judges who will favor conservative causes. Another is that he's anti-immigrant and anti-Free Trade. That's not exactly the way they phrase it, but that's what they mean.

Ironically the Republican Party used to be more pro-immigration and pro Free Trade than the Democrats, because the Democrats were in the pocket of organized labor.
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Ironically the Republican Party used to be more pro-immigration and pro Free Trade than the Democrats, because the Democrats were in the pocket of organized labor.
actually no. republicans were not pro-free trade until the 1950's, from there that idea slowly carried favor within its ranks. Its the democrats who pushed free trade since the 1930 and beyond.

you know the dems were fooling those stupid union people all these years.

as for who supports free trade, i'd say its about the same for both parties.

both parties were anti-immigration to some degree until again 1950.
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Like singer Taylor Swift said, Trump will be voted out. It won't even be close.
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Old 06-04-2020, 07:24 AM   #26
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Like singer Taylor Swift said, Trump will be voted out. It won't even be close.
And if that happens, it likely results in a liberal/leftist being elected which should be abhorrent to true Conservatives.

Thus showing that if Will wants Trump out at all costs, he is certainly not thinking along the lines of conservatism, but simply letting his TDS lead the way.
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Old 06-04-2020, 07:44 AM   #27
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Like singer Taylor Swift said, Trump will be voted out. It won't even be close.

Thank u 'a' - quoting such "authorities" is just the hollywood la la Land in the minds of those who cannot comprehend debate on issues - see el and his post on George will above (#22) for an example of "Issue deficiency" - in favor of "pants down- loot OK"!
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