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07-01-2024, 04:28 PM
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How d'ya like them apples?
Of course, this also means that Current (but soon to be former) President Biden will not be prosecuted for things he did while in office. . . .but Hunter and the rest of the Biden clan can.
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... Not exactly, mate.
Most of Joe Binden's shady end of the deals surely happened
while Joe was serving as VICE-President... NOT as President.
And some of it while Joe was idle.
... So, IF we agree on the Court ruling - Joe Biden remains
"fair game" for prosecution on most of the corruption.
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07-01-2024, 06:00 PM
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Bullshit. I haven't seen ANY Feds. Hanging or beheading Dumpster would be an officially sanctioned act I would gladly pay taxes for.
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07-01-2024, 08:28 PM
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Right. And go ahead and take out the trash in the unSupreme Court. And the MAGOTs in the house and Senate. Go big or go home. Leave the Dumpster for last...let him know it's coming.
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Bullshit. I haven't seen ANY Feds. Hanging or beheading Dumpster would be an officially sanctioned act I would gladly pay taxes for.
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07-01-2024, 09:13 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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We better duck because the lefties heads will be exploding at any minute.
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Prescient you are
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07-01-2024, 10:45 PM
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07-01-2024, 11:09 PM
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Your link says
Held:Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclu-sive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts.
So does this mean that Biden can't be prosecuted for the all the women that were raped and killed by illegals? And Trump's Justice Department won't be able to go after Obama for killing Americans with drones?
Telling the Secretary of State of Georgia to find more votes or the Vice President to seat alternate slates of electors aren't official acts of the President. So how does this get Trump off in the Washington D.C. case?
Biden was wrong calling Trump the "Manchurian Candidate" in the debate. What we've got instead are Manchurian Judges, Republicans in name only (RINO's) installed to do the bidding of the Democrats.
Now Biden and Obama will never go to jail for all the people they killed.
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07-02-2024, 07:30 AM
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... What WAS Presidential Duty was asking Raffensperger
to take all the evidence to a JUDGE - which he REFUSED to do.
You can try to spin the Supreme Court ruling any way
you wish there, mate... IT AIN'T GONNA MATTER! ...
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Do you believe that any of the 3 court cases against Trump in D.C., Florida, and Georgia will proceed or will they be dropped?
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07-02-2024, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Salty Again
... What WAS Presidential Duty was asking Raffensperger
to take all the evidence to a JUDGE - which he REFUSED to do.
You can try to spin the Supreme Court ruling any way
you wish there, mate... IT AIN'T GONNA MATTER! ...
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Isn't that somewhat of a Rorschach Test though? Was Trump acting as a POTUS concerned about the integrity of the election, or was he acting as a private citizen, concerned with keeping his job? Can one even separate the two? I look forward to the mental gymnastics on both sides, trying to make an argument for either.
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07-02-2024, 10:31 AM
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Isn't that somewhat of a Rorschach Test though? Was Trump acting as a POTUS concerned about the integrity of the election, or was he acting as a private citizen, concerned with keeping his job? Can one even separate the two? I look forward to the mental gymnastics on both sides, trying to make an argument for either.
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You are correct. Very little black and white. Mostly gray.
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07-02-2024, 01:20 PM
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Now Biden and Obama will never go to jail for all the people they killed.
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Yeah, they were JUST about to get the justice they so richly deserve.
But if they had ever gone to trial, the results would have been the same. Immunity for acts performed in office. So you're right, none of the people that Obama had droned or any of the women raped and murdered by illegals because Beijing Joey isn't enforcing the laws of the United States.
We have alternate processes called impeachment... which we have failed to use. so in essence the American people don't care enough for justice to be served.
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07-02-2024, 01:44 PM
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You are correct. Very little black and white. Mostly gray.
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Does not the gray usually flow the defendant's way on the reasonable doubt super-highway?
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07-02-2024, 01:58 PM
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O'BI-DONE cashes in his insurance policy
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...We have alternate processes called impeachment... which we have failed to use...
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In Biden's case, would not that be because of the 3 most feared words in the American language? President Kamala Harris
Recall that BI-DONE was O'Bama's insurance policy. Rinse and repeat.
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07-02-2024, 03:40 PM
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Yeah, they were JUST about to get the justice they so richly deserve.
But if they had ever gone to trial, the results would have been the same. Immunity for acts performed in office. So you're right, none of the people that Obama had droned or any of the women raped and murdered by illegals because Beijing Joey isn't enforcing the laws of the United States.
We have alternate processes called impeachment... which we have failed to use. so in essence the American people don't care enough for justice to be served.
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You're perhaps better at recognizing sarcasm that anyone here, but you may have missed it this time. It wasn't directed at you by the way.
My point, which wasn't very obvious, is that Republicans and Democrats shouldn't be ecstatic or upset about this. It's going to make it harder to prosecute a president for anything he does while in office that relates to his official duties, so there's less ability for one side to persecute an ex-president it doesn't like through the court system. As you rightly imply, that's better left to the impeachment process. And, I'd add, the ballot box.
At the same time this doesn't let Trump off the hook for any unofficial act. And for that matter, for any acts unrelated to the president's "conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority."
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07-02-2024, 04:08 PM
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At the same time this doesn't let Trump off the hook for any unofficial act. And for that matter, for any acts unrelated to the president's "conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority."
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Of which there are none. Even the NY hush money trial used evidence from Trumps Presidency so that's now a fcuked prosecution, the GA case can be summarized as Trump ensuring that the votes were all counted, and the documents case is about whether he had the ability to declassify regardless of the process while he was president. We know he did...
and now SCOTUS has just said he CANNOT be prosecuted for that.
Now if there was a sex assault charge where he made an intern blow him in the oval office... not so much, but that was another President in a very different America.
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07-02-2024, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SecretE
Isn't that somewhat of a Rorschach Test though? Was Trump acting as a POTUS concerned about the integrity of the election, or was he acting as a private citizen, concerned with keeping his job? Can one even separate the two? I look forward to the mental gymnastics on both sides, trying to make an argument for either.
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... Trump was the President - tryin' to ensure a fair
and honest election - hence why He wanted the evidence
of voter fraud taken to a Judge.
You can visit one o' me award-winning "GA Election" threads
for more details.
... Rathr obvious that the Court was gonna rule
for Trump (and for past and future Presidents).
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