Implementing a No Review "Policy"

[Tiffani Jameson]

Cpalmson,

I get what you're saying. I find them useful as a Companion. Being able to read reviews on other boards, it really does two things: it lets you understand the reviewer and his mind frame, and you do see a general pattern or 'MO' for the lady. I read reviews and see the weirdest things in people. I've read reviews of men who don't like women AT ALL, and it's evident they're not happy with some aspect of themselves. I've read reviews of men who are prejudiced or see women they do not find attractive, and seek to make them look bad. I've always found it curious that a woman can't read reviews on this site. I'm sure it would impact who actually gets a date and who doesn't.

But really, why do you need to know the 'stroke by stroke' of a date? By the acronyms, you know what happened. If a review says a lady was sweetly obliging, or was mechanical, insatiable, rushed, or lazy, you know the whole story. After an inclusion of the TCB portion of their interactions, now all you need to know was if he would recommend her to others.

If you need something to jack off to, porn is a LOT more visual.

[awl4knot]

As a fairly prolific reviewer I have a few thoughts about this topic.

First, a provider has an absolute right to have either a no-review or no-explicit review policy. It is her life and businesses and her wishes should be followed. However, this does not mean that I accept the reasons behind the policy.

Second, bless those ladies who do not need reviews. Through a combination of exemplary service, shrewd product placement and/or good luck they have found a market that provides sufficient swains with sufficient funds to satisfy their business goals. Other providers are not so blessed.

Third, reviews with details are essential to many of us who visit escorts. Escorts offer a highly personal and variable service and the details provide insight into the nuances that are important to many consumers of erotic services. Since sex is the driving force for the demimonde descriptions of sex are important. However, crass depictions are not necessary or useful, unless, of course, the sex was crass. Accuracy is always important.

Fourth, good reviewers provide an invaluable benefit to many ladies. A good review from a good reviewer informs the consuming public about new ladies and updates about veterans of the escort scene. And for even well-regarded and prominent providers a great review virtually guarantees a surge in business. Two anecdotes prove my point. A few years ago I reviewed a regional legend who had well-over 200 reviews. It was a very thorough review and I pointed out things that other reviewers had missed. After the review was posted, the lady emailed me and thanked me for all of the money I had made for her.

Tonight I will be seeing a touring lady who is back in town for the third time in five weeks. Why? Well, some very favorable reports from a set of well-regarded reviewers has created such a demand that she has changed her schedule to fulfill the demand. And, what is important, these new reviews countered some earlier mediocre reports and suggested ways to improve a customer's chances for success. In other words, they were both a marketing tool for the lady and a guide to the customer.

So, mark me down as a proponent of the review system, despite its many flaws.

And as an aside, Zabrina, I visited your website and I was knocked out by the photos in your first gallery. You have a great sense of style and impeccable taste in clothes. Now that's a review that I bet you are comfortable with, No?

[sketchball82]

I do concur that if you do not agree with the review system, you have every right to free yourself of it. But I think it's inherently tied to the internet advertisement scene.

For example, any providers that wish to advertise via word of mouth or keep a small circle of clients—in other words, providers that elect to fly under the radar—should be treated as such. It is a hobbyist's utter privilege to be one of these providers' select few. It would be wrong to review an UTR provider. Indeed I would even think this is as much a betrayal as outing someone, by passing RL information of a provider or trying to contact them outside of the hobby scene, at a day job for example.

However, I adamantly disagree regarding providers that advertise. Once you start reaching out to mass markets, then as far as I'm concerned, you forgo your right to pass on a review. Out of respect, I still may choose not to write a review, notably if the provider already has several reviews that reasonably express my experience, but I very much believe that reviews are necessary tools for hobbyists to protect ourselves and keep from supporting scam artists. You get to use your protection (i.e., raincoat), and I get mine. Just like you have a right to demand to see my history with providers (i.e., P411), I can make the same demands of you. If I have a horrid experience, I don't care if you approve of reviews or not, I'm going to warn my fellow hobbyists to beware. Likewise, if I have a great experience and your reviews are not stellar, I will let everyone else know that you are worth it.

Simply put, you're in the wrong business if you don't want to be reviewed on BCD experiences. I'm a small business owner and would love it if I could delete any bad experiences from my local BBB, but that isn't going to happen. It's just the nature of the game.

[LaStang]

Its very easy to have a no review policy here , all you have to do is formally request it and its done , but in having a no review policy the showcase and ad posting are taken away as well . You are only allowed to post in regular forums , just let us know what you decide .

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

But really, why do you need to know the 'stroke by stroke' of a date? By the acronyms, you know what happened.

If you need something to jack off to, porn is a LOT more visual.

Porn is more visual but most fucktards can only read with one hand.

[roby321]

Originally Posted by Zabrina Sarafina

I know the final consensus coming from the women's point of view is that reviews are quote "disgusting, degrading demeaning." I think that may be a bit exaggerated in the overall sense, but I can see how some reviews written by certain type of individuals can come across being that way.

I agree in general with you. I've decided I'm not writing any more reviews. Because I don't like to, and the ladies I'm seeing have been extensively reviewed. My review would be like the second straight hour of watching porn, if you've seen it ten times, you've seen it ten thousand times. I've got nothing.

I find some of the ROS written entertaining; there are some guys that can write. On the other hand phrases like, "a dirty fuck whore" don't do a lot for me. And if you've read ten reviews you've read ten thousand, just like two straight hours of porn. If the reviews I've read are to be believed you ladies sure do "O" a lot. Isn't everything you read on the internet true?

The bottom line is the reviews aren't going to change. It is an integral part of ECCIE's business model. Sex sells, and the more graphic, the better, at least for business, ladies and gentlemen. On the upside reviews to tend to weed out the non-professionals and ne'er-do-wells.

You sell fantasies. We being the very simple creatures we are, buy those fantasies. When the fantasies come true, everyone is happy. When they don't? Strum und Drang........and drama ensues, which is good for business as well.

[Doodle23]

Maybe it's the perv in me, but I love the details because depending on my mood, there may be certain activities that I may be looking for which cause me to want to see a particular provider. If we didn't have a detailed ROS and the provider got a recommendation that could mean that she was less than ideal in other areas that I like, but ultimately made up for it in other " skill sets " , which I may not find as appealing which ultimately lead her getting an okay from the previous guy.

[plainjoe]

Three words - research, research, research...why? It keeps me safe because I know that the lady is verified through this site and others; I am also a member of a verification site so it makes it more convenient; also through research, I can also discover if we are a good fit. Reviews and recommendations from highly respected moderators, etc. goes a long way...

Some ladies have no review or infrequent review policies - I respect their wishes...however, without reviews, I cannot conduct my research. Will I meet a lady without reviews? Possibly, but how one chooses who they meet is up to them. I have my process and it includes doing my research by reading reviews.

[Zimmie6942]

Discretion and confidentiality - How much do you value it? I put ZERO value on Discretion or confidentiality for me. Not for the provider because were not in the hobby for the same reasons so we look at things differently. Here is the problem. Men are pigs and some women are way too sensitive. I do agree that some of the guys on the board take it way too far and sometimes even piss me off. But from the guys point of view you have to be carful of the scam which is all over the place.

If we could get rid of the bad element, the scamy ads on BP, Eros, and all the other bad sites then all the dirty details in reviews wouldn't be necessary. But for me I got scammed every time I saw a girl for the first 3-4 years in the hobby because I didn't know about Eccie, p411, and TER. I never saw reviews and every time I got fucked, not the fun kind. So now that I know better I do a lot of research and that hasn't happened once in the last 3 years. Also I have seen about 15 girls this month, that is more then I saw the first few years in the hobby. So reviews are good for business. They don't just build confidence in seeing one girl but they build confidence in the whole experience. In fact before reviews I had a bad taste in my mouth but a every few months I would try again and fail. Ended up spending a bunch of money in strip clubs. Another waste of money.

But with reviews I have become addicted to seeing providers because I know exactly what is going to happen and I know Its a good investment in my time and money. So much so that I see a girl almost every other day. That is extra income for the providers and extra joy and satisfaction for me. Wouldn't happen without the reviews.

[Abe Normal]

Originally Posted by sketchball82

I do concur that if you do not agree with the review system, you have every right to free yourself of it. But I think it's inherently tied to the internet advertisement scene.

For example, any providers that wish to advertise via word of mouth or keep a small circle of clients—in other words, providers that elect to fly under the radar—should be treated as such. It is a hobbyist's utter privilege to be one of these providers' select few. It would be wrong to review an UTR provider. Indeed I would even think this is as much a betrayal as outing someone, by passing RL information of a provider or trying to contact them outside of the hobby scene, at a day job for example.

However, I adamantly disagree regarding providers that advertise. Once you start reaching out to mass markets, then as far as I'm concerned, you forgo your right to pass on a review. Out of respect, I still may choose not to write a review, notably if the provider already has several reviews that reasonably express my experience, but I very much believe that reviews are necessary tools for hobbyists to protect ourselves and keep from supporting scam artists. You get to use your protection (i.e., raincoat), and I get mine. Just like you have a right to demand to see my history with providers (i.e., P411), I can make the same demands of you. If I have a horrid experience, I don't care if you approve of reviews or not, I'm going to warn my fellow hobbyists to beware. Likewise, if I have a great experience and your reviews are not stellar, I will let everyone else know that you are worth it.

Simply put, you're in the wrong business if you don't want to be reviewed on BCD experiences. I'm a small business owner and would love it if I could delete any bad experiences from my local BBB, but that isn't going to happen. It's just the nature of the game.

There is the answer I was looking for, and agree with. I want to know before taking the plunge.

My feelings.....if you don't like this site's review policy, don't let the door hit your fine ass on the way out !

[Guest110516]

I want to know...

1) that you are not a dude.
2) that you look like your pics.
3) that your skills and menu are on par with your competition.
4) that you are drama-free.
5) that I won't be robbed.
6) that your rates are reasonable.
7) whatever I left out. You get the point.

If I can find that information about you without reviews, cool. Otherwise, I will not empty my wallet in your direction.

[Zabrina Sarafina]

Just had myself delisted off ter. Feels great. And fyi to other ladies, if you were considering being listed on there, don't do it. It's a huge hassle, they make you take all your ads and website down which I was glad to do as I obviously feel very strongly against my name being listed on a graphic review site. I'm so happy to wash my hands from that garbage. Amen

[pyramider]

ter is a pain in the ass. I have only had one review ever approved and posted there.

[Zabrina Sarafina]

Originally Posted by pyramider

ter is a pain in the ass. I have only had one review ever approved and posted there.

Don't even get me started on their discussion boards or lack of discussion boards. First of all Heavily moderated. Very strange moderation. I posted once something about how women who drink red wine tend to have higher libidos and they deleted it hahaha! I don't understand what rule I broke. And yes they can monitor your pm's so certain things cannot go through. And there's the same 10 people who post nationwide (rarely anyone else) - it's almost kind of creepy. Apparently rest of the peanut gallery is too scared to voice their opinion. Are you kidding me? You don't even have the guts to say what you want to say over the freakin internet?? LOL

The providers are completely fake holding on to their sweet persona's. One copied my photo and exact ad copy and re-posted it under her own name in my own city. WHAT?!

On another fun note; there's a site out there dedicated to those who have been banned from ter. It's pretty neat. It's full of hate though toward "hobbyists", the ones who are jerks. Hmm I think being banned sounds alot cooler than ...yea I delisted myself.

[stimulatethemind]

Zabrina, thanks for your always thought provoking postings. Your subjects always seems to initiate good discussions. I, personally, have never written a review. Of course, except for once, I only see one lady and neither of us has any interest in sharing the details of our dates. Unless, of course, someone might have an interest in which play, symphony or ballet we attended. lol. Even if I were a more "active" hobbiest, I doubt that I would write reviews. For me, that would be losing the fantasy of my encounters and I have no interest in any locker room chest pounding. What goes on bcd between me and the lady is strictly between us.

I would think that a detailed listing of activities should be sufficient to satisfy a person's curiosity of what transpired bcd. If BBBJNQNS is listed, I don't need to read a blow-by-blow (pun intended) description with all the slurping details to know what is on the lady's menu. Also, it seems to me, many of the ladies are very YMMV. Just because a lady may have real chemistry with one guy and CHOOSE to do a certain activity with him, doesn't always mean that she will have an interest in that activity with someone else. When that happens, the second guy might feel disappointed or that he didn't "get his money's worth". In any case, it seems to me, whatever activities take place is always at the lady's discretion.

Now, if a lady specifically asks for a review, then I would consider writing one. However, I believe it can be done quite satisfactorily without it being written as something for Penthouse Forum. You could describe the cleanliness of her incall, her physical attributes, her beauty, her personality, her punctuality, her overall attitude, her demeanor with you, etc. without it being written as a script for a porn movie.

Anyway, that's just my opinion and I know that others have a different viewpoint. I guess that's why they make vanilla AND chocolate.