Providers doing no-shows

[AdventurousMouse]

Originally Posted by 213674

The last year or so I have noticed it is actually difficult to give these gals money.. They are extra non chant compared to pre cov.

I have similar rules, if she's short on replies, and then 45 min to an hour passes, Im booking another provider. I can't tell you how many providers Ill have a 5-7 text convo with to get rates, establish Im close enough and not a cop, then they just disappear. and 2-3 days later, they're texting, saying phone died, baby daddy drama/ whatever, and they're ready to go now like nothing happened. But you don't reply in .00000002 seconds and they're already doing the "?" text and accusing you of not being serious..

I had a provider in ATL tell me that if its after 6pm, she purposefully waits an hour to text anyone back, and then she just lets them hang another hour to see who's serious about her. I replied with " that must be why you were so prompt with me, because you ran off all the other business you had tonight".. That was AFTER our session of course. lol

I am not chasing pussy I have to throw money at too. The effort and chase is reserved for married women, tinder girls who aren't smart enough to charge anything more than $12 in drinks before heading back to my hotel.

On various forums, I've heard providers say "Never contact more than one provider in the same day. You end up wasting the time of the providers."

But if we all followed that advice, we would hardly ever get lucky. It's a numbers game. When looking for a job, do you only apply to one job at a time? Of course not. You apply to as many jobs as you have to until you get hired. Same with escorts...you contact as many as you have to until one bites.

As for your comment about how it's not worth it to chase pussy you have to throw money at, sometimes it makes me feel like a total failure when I realize: Even when I'm willing to PAY a woman for sex, it's STILL an uphill battle.

[hk toys]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

As for your comment about how it's not worth it to chase pussy you have to throw money at, sometimes it makes me feel like a total failure when I realize: Even when I'm willing to PAY a woman for sex, it's STILL an uphill battle.

Totally agree

[Pangolier]

There might be a problem with your address itself. Even if you are in a decent neighborhood, your address may be flagged, or if the girl looks it up on the property appraiser's site she may not like who it is deeded to. Unless of course you rent an apartment.

[Fizley]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

As for the supply/demand imbalance, I would think extra escorts would pop up to fill the void. After all, its literally one of the easiest ways for a woman to make money.

On a related note, are short careers common in the escort industry? Because in the 7 years I've been hobbying, I've seen many e
scorts come and go. While some end up posting in other states (clearly they moved), most end up dropping off the face of the earth entirely.

It's frustrating how I build a good reputation with an
escort, only for her to end up leaving the industry. Then I'm right back to square one with being a newbie.

You would think that would be tge case.

I've been in the Hobby for 12 years and tge best years were during tge great recession. Why? It brought many single moms who lost their job and needed to hustle to keep a roof over her kids head. These single moms would of never been providers, but became providers because their hours had been cut and they needed the extra income.

The last two years we have paid people not to work, and prior to that there were not enough bodies for the available jobs. This has allowed that single mom to have employment and pay her bills-great for her, bad for us hobbyists.

[AdventurousMouse]

Originally Posted by Pangolier

There might be a problem with your address itself. Even if you are in a decent neighborhood, your address may be flagged, or if the girl looks it up on the property appraiser's site she may not like who it is deeded to. Unless of course you rent an apartment.

What do you mean when you say she might not like who it's deeded to?

I rent from a landlord. But chances are the provider doesn't even know my landlord. How could she not like him?

[AdventurousMouse]

Originally Posted by Fizley

You would think that would be tge case.

I've been in the Hobby for 12 years and tge best years were during tge great recession. Why? It brought many single moms who lost their job and needed to hustle to keep a roof over her kids head. These single moms would of never been providers, but became providers because their hours had been cut and they needed the extra income.

The last two years we have paid people not to work, and prior to that there were not enough bodies for the available jobs. This has allowed that single mom to have employment and pay her bills-great for her, bad for us hobbyists.

Interesting. The recession had (mostly) ended by the time I started hobbying.

As much as the typical woman likes to say "I would never sell myself," clearly they would sell themselves if times were desperate enough.

The fact that the pool of escorts dries up when there's plentiful employment (or when you get paid to not work), goes to show, however, escorting is something they only do out of financial necessity.

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

What do you mean when you say she might not like who it's deeded to?

I rent from a landlord. But chances are the provider doesn't even know my landlord. How could she not like him?

If the title on the home is to a company or trust, some people may think that's trying to hide something, not excluding ownership by someone connected to law enforcement. And it certainly doesn't match the name your gave them either, which may or may not be a red flag to them without explanation. Who know what is going through a girl's mind. But I'll bet she's going to research the residence before going to an appointment.


If another girl has been there in the past and seen a band tenant who lived there before you, that address may be blacklisted forever. Who knows; just pointing that could be one reason why.

[FireKitten]

Contacting multiple providers (more than maybe 3, discreetly) for the same day, is an easy way to spook them, and eventually get you somewhat blacklisted.

All kinds of things can be giving out negative vibes, and the ladies talk. And regular business principles don't usually apply here.

[AdventurousMouse]

Originally Posted by FireKitten

Contacting multiple providers (more than maybe 3, discreetly) for the same day, is an easy way to spook them, and eventually get you somewhat blacklisted.

All kinds of things can be giving out negative vibes, and the ladies talk. And regular business principles don't usually apply here.

What if all 3 blow me off (and not in a good way)?

I speak from experience. It's happened before.

I've heard that providers talk. But if she's too busy to even return my call/text, I'm not sure she has time to badmouth me to other providers.

On that note, when providers can't even be bothered to reply to me, I don't feel guilty about contacting as many providers as I have to.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by Fizley

You would think that would be the case.

I've been in the Hobby for 12 years and the best years were during tge great recession.

The last two years we have paid people not to work, and prior to that there were not enough bodies for the available jobs. This has allowed that single mom to have employment and pay her bills-great for her, bad for us hobbyists.

You make some good points. Back in the day I used TER quite a bit especially traveling with some good success. It was a nice mix of soccer moms needing extra income, dancers who got tired of paying club fees and upscale beauties. Now we have Tryst, Twitter, of, Seeking, Snapchat and all kinds of ways for girls to get paid either without ever meeting up or in addition to doing sessions. No need to register a domain name or merchant account to reach a worldwide audience. The game has changed as well as the economic reality you spoke on continues impact pretty much every retail concept. I don't see either trend letting up anytime soon.

[BLM69]

Most of the good whores are gone and we're left with mostly low quality long time hustlers that follow and are involved in the drama, this hobby is nothing like it use to be 5-7 years ago. Depressing

[Cavalier Gentleman]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

If no-shows were an issue to me for the entire 7 years I've done this, I might think I'm the problem. But since it's only been a sporadic issue, I'm leaning more toward the idea that my search criteria could be the problem (and I'm open to suggestions).

The string of no-shows back in 2017 were right after backpage shut down. I chalked it up to the fact that issues are inevitable any time a major platform shuts down.

I've been using mainly listcrawler ever since the backpage shutdown. Other than the bad luck I had in 2017, as well as the bad luck these past few months, I've found listcrawler to be pretty reliable.

That being said, I unfortunately feel like we'll NEVER go back to the convenience we had in the backpage days.

OP, there is at least one of your issues. Get off listcrawler and on to better sites, like Tryst, EROS, or P411 where reputable ladies advertise. Many ladies also advertise on social media; you can tell the reputable ones by their history of posts. And, stay off STG as well. Many of the ladies on listcrawler and STG are scams posted by dudes in other countries just trying to get deposit money with no intention to show. Research well and hobby safe.