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Do y'all even know what the 2 articles of impeachment are for.
Here's a hint. It's got nothing to do with Russia.
This Senate trial will not convict Trump if it even gets started. It will be just as partisan as the hearings. Summary judgement is an option. Pelosi is already trying to control how the Senate conducts a trial saying she won't hand over the articles until she can agree to the rules of the trial. She wants to prevent Trumps lawyers and the Senate from being able to subpoena and question anyone they want for any reason they want. In all the hearings that the house held there was one fact witness who had nothing. Everyone else was asked for opinions and the Republicans exposed them all. Fucking laughable.
The Senate may call fact witnesses like James Comey, Peter Strozk, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan , James Clapper, hell they could even call Barack Obama. The trial could take months, dirt will be dug up and charges referred to the Department of Justice. If the Senate drags it out long enough that may just be your October surprise.
People in flyover country are tired of this shit. Congress hasn't done a damn thing since 2016 but fight over Russian collusion and now this. Nothing on healthcare, no welfare reforms, VA is still a clusterfuck and spending is still out of control but attention has been diverted. Now that they pass the articles of impeachment the house is going to pass the USMCA so they can hang their hats on something. All the while the far right and far left are eating this shit up.
40000 deplorables stood all day in sub freezing temperatures just to be a part of a Trump rally last night. It happens time and time again, wherever he goes. Those people don't participate in polls, they vote and they are pissed.
There is some validity in the argument that Trump can stir the masses. Comparisons to Hitler are a desperate attempt to demonize him. BTW Obama was the one that started putting kids in cages. Trump ended it.
Trump lives for this shit. He will, most likely, make lemonade and win 2020 in a landslide that the Dems are already trying to invalidate because not only will Trump win the Dems are seriously at risk of losing the House. Attempts at invalidating any 2020 results have already started. They will be ratcheted up in earnest after the first of the year and ahead of the Iowa Caucuses.
It absolutely tickles my fancy watching uneducated Trump supporters try to talk politics. Go to the political forum to see my 2 latest threads on a topics you fail to properly articulate. What I really cant stop laughing at is your misplaced use of the words "fact witnesses"
Fact witnesses to what? None of the people you named where on the Jul 25th call Trump made to the Ukrainian President where he tried to shake him down. So it's impossible for them to fact witnesses to both articles of impeachment. Are you that clueless. Hahahaha you're trying to sound smart when you're really sounding like a complete and total idiot. Keep trying though you cats are a laughing riot with all your misplaced knowledge and understandings. I pray to God yall dont have kids because if you do I'm sure they're just as uneducated and clueless. We need more brain power more thinkers. ;-)
^^well argued sir. you had nothing to work with and yet you did well. i give props where props are due.
do you have any idea how many common sense bills have been passed by the House that McConnell won't even bring to a floor vote, because he knows they must pass or he'd look like a clown?
McConnell needs to join me back by the woodshed. i'd wipe that silly grin off his turtle face faster than you can say scam trial. McConnell needs to recuse himself since he's clearly stated he is unable to be impartial and has already made up his mind irrespective of the evidence..
WTF is a common sense bill?
McConnell is not any more impartial than Pelosi, Nadler or Schiff. Unfortunately that's the nature of politics.
Senate Majority leader recusing himself....
Nothing that Clinton or Biden did has put our country at Risk to our enemies. Get over yourself and stop showing your PMS like emotions. You're all over the map and sounding like a mad man.
It absolutely tickles my fancy watching uneducated Trump supporters try to talk politics. Go to the political forum to see my 2 latest threads on a topics you fail to properly articulate. What I really cant stop laughing at is your misplaced use of the words "fact witnesses"
Fact witnesses to what? None of the people you named where on the Jul 25th call Trump made to the Ukrainian President where he tried to shake him down. So it's impossible for them to fact witnesses to both articles of impeachment. Are you that clueless. Hahahaha you're trying to sound smart when you're really sounding like a complete and total idiot. Keep trying though you cats are a laughing riot with all your misplaced knowledge and understandings. I pray to God yall dont have kids because if you do I'm sure they're just as uneducated and clueless. We need more brain power more thinkers. ;-)
So you agree that there were no fact witnesses to that phone call. You'd also have to agree then, that there is no basis in fact of a quid-pro-quo. Not one witness says that it happened. They are impeaching him on opinion, hearsay and opinions of hearsay.
The fact that you're okay with that is an indication of your intellect. You probably shouldn't be questioning mine.
Nothing that Clinton or Biden did has put our country at Risk to our enemies. Get over yourself and stop showing your PMS like emotions. You're all over the map and sounding like a mad man.
Nothing Trump has done has put our country at risk. Take off the tin foil hat and think like a rational human being.
Well damn, You and SC still can't decide if the guy is a bull or a cuck.
Your feigned outrage and double standard is a joke.
Has he stuck his dick in a White house intern or stuck a cigar in her pussy and then smoked it?
How about Biden sniffing women's hair while he touches their shoulders in a creepy kind of way.
Liberals want to compare our policies to other countries, mostly western European, all the time. Well take a look at some of the past and present prime ministers and their known mistresses. France kind of looks the other way with a sneer like pretty much anything else they don't really give a fuck about. An Italian PM is pretty much expected to have a mistress. The tabloids were practically picking out the next mistress for Silvio Berlusconi out of the hundreds if not thousands of women who were trying to attract his attention. He had several mistresses. The only problem with it was everyone had their own favorite.
a key difference is when Clinton stuck his cock in Monica Lewinsky's mouth and nutted on her dress, she was down for bbbj with cod (come on dress). the 15-give or take (and you know as well as i this is a huge underestimate)- women Trump has sexually assaulted? not so much on that pesky consent issue..
you exxaggerate Obama's role. he, unlike Trump, is not a sadist. he earned his moniker "deporter in chief" for one reason alone: to create space to do an immigration deal with Republicans. course in retrospect, why even bother. Pubs put politics above doing what they knew was right. imagine that..
a key difference is when Clinton stuck his cock in Monica Lewinsky's mouth and nutted on her dress, she was down for bbbj with cod (come on dress). the 15-give or take- women Trump has sexually assaulted? not so much..
You have proof of these "assaults"?
I can pretty much guarantee you that if he had sex with any of those women it was completely voluntary if not their idea. That's how power works. You don't understand because you're not and never will be in that position.
Nothing that Clinton or Biden did has put our country at Risk to our enemies. Get over yourself and stop showing your PMS like emotions. You're all over the map and sounding like a mad man.
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So you agree that there were no fact witnesses to that phone call. You'd also have to agree then, that there is no basis in fact of a quid-pro-quo. Not one witness says that it happened. They are impeaching him on opinion, hearsay and opinions of hearsay.
The fact that you're okay with that is an indication of your intellect. You probably shouldn't be questioning mine.
hey Einstein. None of the people you named are fact witnesses. Apparently you didn't watch the House impeachment sessions over the past 2 weeks. Trumps own people one of whom was privy to call testified against him. His own people. None of them were Democrats. Now all we need are the others like Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo...and Trump should be going to Prison.
The fact that you dont see anything wrong with his behavior and how he put the US at risk says more about your education and judgement more than anything. For as old as you are it's a crying shame you're this clueless
You have proof of these "assaults"?
I can pretty much guarantee you that if he had sex with any of those women it was completely voluntary if not their idea. That's how power works. You don't understand because you're not and never will be in that position.
See my comments about Berlusconi.
Somebody is quite triggered this morning melting down faster than an ice cream cone on a sunny day
You have proof of these "assaults"?
I can pretty much guarantee you that if he had sex with any of those women it was completely voluntary if not their idea. That's how power works. You don't understand because you're not and never will be in that position.
See my comments about Berlusconi.
ya i've never had staff who were fine as hell and who i could've fired on a whim. never had the chance to sexually harass/assault underlings whose future at my company i completely controlled. let me put it to you this way on that issue: bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha. didn't you say you're a business owner? i'm not calling bs on that, but seriously, you've never had a chance to sexually harass your subordinates? what world do you live in exactly?
as to proof: 1 or 2 allegations? could go either way; his word against hers. 10, 15, 20 allegations from that many separate gals? um sir that's a pattern, the pattern of a sexual predator, to be specific. Trump is well into Bill Cosby/Harvey Weinstein territory.
Putin has tapes of Russian hookers pissing on him and pegging his ass in the Kremlin so he's compelled to do what they say. If they release those tapes to the world Trump will commit suicide. So he has to commit treason against his own country. His dumb ass had no idea that all Americans of Business and influence that visit the Kremlin are automatically recorded and videotaped in their hotels. This has always been a well known fact since the 90's how his dumbass didn't know this is another story.
if you say so.
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Ohh BTW China and Saudi Arabia does this as well. I've never been to China but I've been to Saudi.
will they take you back?
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Originally Posted by boardman
Do y'all even know what the 2 articles of impeachment are for.
Here's a hint. It's got nothing to do with Russia.
This Senate trial will not convict Trump if it even gets started. It will be just as partisan as the hearings. Summary judgement is an option. Pelosi is already trying to control how the Senate conducts a trial saying she won't hand over the articles until she can agree to the rules of the trial. She wants to prevent Trumps lawyers and the Senate from being able to subpoena and question anyone they want for any reason they want. In all the hearings that the house held there was one fact witness who had nothing. Everyone else was asked for opinions and the Republicans exposed them all. Fucking laughable.
The Senate may call fact witnesses like James Comey, Peter Strozk, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Glenn Simpson, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan , James Clapper, hell they could even call Barack Obama. The trial could take months, dirt will be dug up and charges referred to the Department of Justice. If the Senate drags it out long enough that may just be your October surprise.
People in flyover country are tired of this shit. Congress hasn't done a damn thing since 2016 but fight over Russian collusion and now this. Nothing on healthcare, no welfare reforms, VA is still a clusterfuck and spending is still out of control but attention has been diverted. Now that they pass the articles of impeachment the house is going to pass the USMCA so they can hang their hats on something. All the while the far right and far left are eating this shit up.
40000 deplorables stood all day in sub freezing temperatures just to be a part of a Trump rally last night. It happens time and time again, wherever he goes. Those people don't participate in polls, they vote and they are pissed.
There is some validity in the argument that Trump can stir the masses. Comparisons to Hitler are a desperate attempt to demonize him. BTW Obama was the one that started putting kids in cages. Trump ended it.
Trump lives for this shit. He will, most likely, make lemonade and win 2020 in a landslide that the Dems are already trying to invalidate because not only will Trump win the Dems are seriously at risk of losing the House. Attempts at invalidating any 2020 results have already started. They will be ratcheted up in earnest after the first of the year and ahead of the Iowa Caucuses.
the fierce jungle cat has pounced upon his hapless prey.
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Originally Posted by Sistine Chapel
hey Einstein. None of the people you named are fact witnesses. Apparently you didn't watch the House impeachment sessions over the past 2 weeks. Trumps own people one of whom was privy to call testified against him. His own people. None of them were Democrats. Now all we need are the others like Mulvaney, Bolton, Pompeo...and Trump should be going to Prison.
The fact that you dont see anything wrong with his behavior and how he put the US at risk says more about your education and judgement more than anything. For as old as you are it's a crying shame you're this clueless
What's clueless is not understanding that this goes nowhere and what's really going on. Trump doesn't get convicted, he doesn't even get censured.
Hell, he may not even get tried.
Pelosi is making it clear that the Senate won't even get the articles unless she's sure there will be a conviction. She wants to know what the "arena" looks like. She seems to be insisting on a quid-pro-quo. Kind of sounds like obstruction of justice if you ask me. The people have spoken through their representatives. They voted to impeach Trump. Holding up the process now is clearly obstruction. The arena is none of her business. It's the Senate's business.
They've known all along that the Senate would never convict. They had hoped that the Senate would vote on a summary judgement of which it would only take 51 to throw out the articles. Then they could run, crying and screaming, that the process wasn't fair(although their process was anything but) and further demonize the Republicans. Now that it looks like the Senate may go ahead with the trial and do it under their rules which would result in an acquittal they want nothing to do with that because an acquittal would be devastating.
Trump asked questions about a potential 2020 candidates foreign dealings in order to determine if he was engaged in any corruption. That's looking out for the US. Isn't that what Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler have been doing for the last 4 months or so. Pelosi is still of the delusion that because she is third in line she is somehow in executive power.
It's funny, Pelosi was giving an interview the other day. She said this impeachment vote was the culmination of two and a half years of work to get the President impeached. That's two years before the phone call...
If you think Trump put the US at risk by asking questions what do you think the Democrats are doing to the US by trampling the rule of law? They're pissing on you and telling you it's rain. You dumb asses are drinking it up like wine.
What's clueless is not understanding that this goes nowhere and what's really going on. Trump doesn't get convicted, he doesn't even get censured.
Hell, he may not even get tried.
Pelosi is making it clear that the Senate won't even get the articles unless she's sure there will be a conviction. She wants to know what the "arena" looks like. She seems to be insisting on a quid-pro-quo. Kind of sounds like obstruction of justice if you ask me. The people have spoken through their representatives. They voted to impeach Trump. Holding up the process now is clearly obstruction. The arena is none of her business. It's the Senate's business.
They've known all along that the Senate would never convict. They had hoped that the Senate would vote on a summary judgement of which it would only take 51 to throw out the articles. Then they could run, crying and screaming, that the process wasn't fair(although their process was anything but) and further demonize the Republicans. Now that it looks like the Senate may go ahead with the trial and do it under their rules which would result in an acquittal they want nothing to do with that because an acquittal would be devastating.
Trump asked questions about a potential 2020 candidates foreign dealings in order to determine if he was engaged in any corruption. That's looking out for the US. Isn't that what Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler have been doing for the last 4 months or so. Pelosi is still of the delusion that because she is third in line she is somehow in executive power.
It's funny, Pelosi was giving an interview the other day. She said this impeachment vote was the culmination of two and a half years of work to get the President impeached. That's two years before the phone call...
If you think Trump put the US at risk by asking questions what do you think the Democrats are doing to the US by trampling the rule of law? They're pissing on you and telling you it's rain. You dumb asses are drinking it up like wine.
First off your President is the one who's literally the laughingstock of the entire world. Including allies and enemies alike. They're all literally laughing at his fat incompetent ass. Secondly Nancy and everyone else already knew he'd never be convicted in the Senate but once again you and your friends prove that you're total intellectual lightweights. The point of delaying the Articles delivery to the Senate is to force pressure. To further expose intent and to make those vulnerable Senate members squirm at the thought that fact witnesses will be brought in to expose Trump's crimes against the US and the Constitution. That's all we want to achieve. Once we do that it's easier for us to take back the Senate. Once we box in Mitch and Lindsey the Republican party is toast. See you eat too much red meat to even understand that us Progressives we're tap dancing on your head. You people are just so uneducated and misinformed. It is astounding yalls level of willful ignorance and allegiance to a party.
First off your President is the one who's literally the laughingstock of the entire world. Including allies and enemies alike. They're all literally laughing at his fat incompetent ass. Secondly Nancy and everyone else already knew he'd never be convicted in the Senate but once again you and your friends prove that you're total intellectual lightweights. The point of delaying the Articles delivery to the Senate is to force pressure. To further expose intent and to make those vulnerable Senate members squirm at the thought that fact witnesses will be brought in to expose Trump's crimes against the US and the Constitution. That's all we want to achieve. Once we do that it's easier for us to take back the Senate. Once we box in Mitch and Lindsey the Republican party is toast. See you eat too much red meat to even understand that us Progressives we're tap dancing on your head. You people are just so uneducated and misinformed. It is astounding yalls level of willful ignorance and allegiance to a party.
Good luck with that strategy. It will never play out that way. I guarantee it!
You're an idiot if you believe anyone in Washington is getting backed into a corner.
"The house's conduct risks deeply damaging the institutions of American government."
Good luck with that strategy. It will never play out that way. I guarantee it!
You're an idiot if you believe anyone in Washington is getting backed into a corner.
"The house's conduct risks deeply damaging the institutions of American government."
Fact is Mitch and Lindsey are total morons and idiots. What kind of fool comes out and announces on Camera that they will be partial and rig the Senate trial in favor of the POTUS by not calling witnesses or requesting evidence. What kind of a moron would box themselves in like that just before they have to take an oath to be impartial. Those statements they made on Camera is precisely why Dems will retake control of the Senate like we did the house recently. They're incompetent morons and they fucked up with their over the top emotional response. All those idiots did was give Nancy her playbook. Now Nancy will be justified in the delay to deliver the Articles to the Senate and will extend this out which is bad press for the POTUS and will allow us to further reach the independent voters and those Republicans that stand for the rule of law. All those George Bush Republicans in the US Intel committee and agencies will be voting Dem in 2020. Trump has ensured it with his military, CIA, and FBI bashing.
Like I said yall dont have a clue you're just emotional that's pretty much it
Go to the political forum to see my 2 latest threads on a topics you fail to properly articulate. What I really cant stop laughing at is your misplaced use of the words "fact witnesses" 
