Trump The Fascist...

[DEAR_JOHN]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

List of Republicans who oppose the Donald Trump 2024 presidential campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ntial_campaign

You won't find MAGA's doing this shit. We save this for harris supporters.

[Yssup Rider]

What a softbal!!!

You’ll find MAGAS doing this fascist shit.








If you like it, the. Show the courage to join them. If it even slightly bothers you, man up and vote for the woman!

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Yeah, logically it makes complete sense to me to want a 78-year-old man child and pathological liar with no empathy to be president so he can play dictator with his 2025 policies before his fat fast food eating ass has a heart attack and croaks. That makes total logical sense to me. Thanks for correcting my flawed way of thinking, genius.

Anyway, enough of responding to you. I can only go back and forth with nonsense for so long before I get bored. And I already have others in your neighborhood around in this forum to share your high level of brilliant WV MAGA logic.

None of that has a thing to do with fascism. Nice dodge tho.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

None of that has a thing to do with fascism. Nice dodge tho.

Okay, I lied. I'll have one more laugh. Notice in the response you quoted from me mentioned dictator. Let me help you with that, MAGA genius. Do you even know what characteristics that a fascist even exhibits? Let me help you understand why I made it a point to mention dictator. Read the below link slowly so you can understand, (specifically #2)... MAGA deflection bullshit is funny. No wonder Trump loves your votes

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Edit for J below: I don't play silly MAGA back and forth games usually in this forum. I've played enough with you this morning. I can't teach you what you are incapable of learning which is why I suggested that you read the definition slowly. Sorry, I can't help you any more than that although I tried. I even told you to pay attention to #2 in the definition. What the fuck more do you want from me? LOL

[Jacuzzme]

Dodging again are we. Dictatorships come in a variety flavors, fascistic being only one of many. Using the word has nothing to do with your and/or Kelly’s accusation.

I’ll wait for your answers to a couple simple questions, then we can move on. Reference my first post in the thread if you don’t remember them.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by DEAR_JOHN

You won't find MAGA's doing this shit. We save this for harris supporters.

First of all, a photo of a flag burning in pakistan is not indicative of something that a typical American would do.

Secondly if it happened here in America it’s repugnant but protected political speech.

Thirdly burning Harris supporters to death is not something anyone should do. And definitely illegal.

And last but not least, Suggesting that you burn your political opponents at the stake is something you might find happening under a fascist state.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

What the fuck more do you want from me?

Answer a couple simple questions that you’re avoiding like the plague.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

And last but not least, Suggesting that you burn your political opponents at the stake is something you might find happening under a fascist state.

That’s not what he suggested. He’s saying that flag burning be left to Harris supporters. I’d agree with the first two points though.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

That’s not what he suggested. He’s saying that flag burning be left to Harris supporters. I’d agree with the first two points though.

My bad. I probably misinterpreted that.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Trump is neither far right, or authoritarian. He’s a solid centerist. I wonder, who was the last fascist looking to bulldoze a federal department of education? Reinforce measures assuring the citizens could possess weapons? Be a peace monger?

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Answer a couple simple questions that you’re avoiding like the plague.

Looks like you're not going to get any takers.

Excerpts from

The ‘Fascist’ Meme Returns

Why the public isn’t buying this Democratic claim about Trump.

No doubt it was inevitable. As Election Day nears, and the progressive panic over Donald Trump escalates, Democrats are closing their campaign with a favorite theme: Mr. Trump is a threat to the Constitution, to democracy itself, and is even a “fascist.” But is this true, and could he really impose authoritarian rule in the U.S.?

Let’s stipulate that there are many reasons to be wary of handing Mr. Trump power again. His rhetoric is often coarse and divisive. His praise for the likes of Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping is offensive, and betrays his view that he can by force of personality cut favorable deals with them. He indulges mediocrities who flatter him, and his attempt to overturn the 2020 election was disgraceful. These columns preferred any other Republican nominee.

Yet despite it all he won the GOP nomination for the third time, was headed toward victory over Mr. Biden, and is essentially tied with Ms. Harris. Are tens of millions of Americans really falling for a fascist takeover?

The answer is that most Americans simply don’t believe the fascist meme, and for good reasons. The first is the evidence of Mr. Trump’s first term. Whatever his intentions, the former President was hemmed in by American checks and balances. Democrats, the press and the federal bureaucracy were relentlessly opposed to all his works, as they would be again.

Mr. Trump’s worst attempt at stretching executive power—reallocating military construction money to build the border wall—was small beer compared with Mr. Biden’s lawless $400 billion student loan forgiveness.

Fascism historically was “national socialism”—government control over much of the economy. By that definition, Democrats today are the national socialists—using regulation, mandates, law enforcement, and trillions of dollars in subsidies to coerce Americans to follow their dictates on climate and culture. Mr. Trump was a deregulator in his first term and promises to be more so in a second.

Ms. Harris is making much of Mr. Trump’s comments on Fox last Sunday that “we have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the—and it should be very easily handled by—if necessary, by National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”

It was a typically grandiose and self-defeating statement, but when we asked about it Thursday in an interview, Mr. Trump made clear after some rambling that he was talking about destructive riots. He said he’d “certainly not [use force] against my opponents—it’s against civil unrest.”

Even if Mr. Trump doesn’t mean this, he’d have to face the obstacles built into the American system. His own judicial nominees rejected his claims about a stolen election, and Republicans in and outside his Administration blocked his attempt to overturn the election.

JD Vance is no Mike Pence, but the Electoral Count Act makes a replay of 2020 more difficult. We have confidence that American institutions—the Supreme Court, the military, Congress—would resist any attempt to subvert the Constitution.

This gets to another reason most Americans don’t think Mr. Trump is a unique threat to democracy. They have seen Democrats break all sorts of political norms to defeat him.

Democrats exploited the Russia collusion narrative in 2016 until it was exposed as a lie financed by Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Democrats tried to keep Mr. Trump off the presidential ballot this year. Democrats have used the law in no fewer than five cases to disqualify him—and New York’s Attorney General campaigned explicitly on a promise to find something, anything, to charge him with. This subverts a basic principle of American justice.

Democrats—including Ms. Harris—are also candid in saying they want to compromise the independence of the Supreme Court with new political rules and supervision. If they get even narrow control of the Senate, along with the House and White House, they say they will break the 60-vote filibuster rule to do it. That in our view is a greater threat to the Constitution than anything Mr. Trump might be able to do in a second term.

All of which is to say that the fear of fascism would have more credibility if Democrats didn’t abuse power themselves. If they lose the election against a flawed Mr. Trump, it won’t be because he is a wannabe Mussolini. The reason will be the Biden-Harris record.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-fasc...oters-5e513359

[texassapper]

I think that 90% of the idiots using the term fascist have zero clue what the word even means. It's just some convenient slur to be hurled by commies at anyone they don't like.

Was he a fascist from 2016-2020? If so, how? If not, why is this time different?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Looks like you're not going to get any takers.

Excerpts from

The ‘Fascist’ Meme Returns

Why the public isn’t buying this Democratic claim about Trump.

No doubt it was inevitable. As Election Day nears, and the progressive panic over Donald Trump escalates, Democrats are closing their campaign with a favorite theme: Mr. Trump is a threat to the Constitution, to democracy itself, and is even a “fascist.” But is this true, and could he really impose authoritarian rule in the U.S.?

Let’s stipulate that there are many reasons to be wary of handing Mr. Trump power again. His rhetoric is often coarse and divisive. His praise for the likes of Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping is offensive, and betrays his view that he can by force of personality cut favorable deals with them. He indulges mediocrities who flatter him, and his attempt to overturn the 2020 election was disgraceful. These columns preferred any other Republican nominee.

Yet despite it all he won the GOP nomination for the third time, was headed toward victory over Mr. Biden, and is essentially tied with Ms. Harris. Are tens of millions of Americans really falling for a fascist takeover?

The answer is that most Americans simply don’t believe the fascist meme, and for good reasons. The first is the evidence of Mr. Trump’s first term. Whatever his intentions, the former President was hemmed in by American checks and balances. Democrats, the press and the federal bureaucracy were relentlessly opposed to all his works, as they would be again.

Mr. Trump’s worst attempt at stretching executive power—reallocating military construction money to build the border wall—was small beer compared with Mr. Biden’s lawless $400 billion student loan forgiveness.

Fascism historically was “national socialism”—government control over much of the economy. By that definition, Democrats today are the national socialists—using regulation, mandates, law enforcement, and trillions of dollars in subsidies to coerce Americans to follow their dictates on climate and culture. Mr. Trump was a deregulator in his first term and promises to be more so in a second.

Ms. Harris is making much of Mr. Trump’s comments on Fox last Sunday that “we have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the—and it should be very easily handled by—if necessary, by National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”

It was a typically grandiose and self-defeating statement, but when we asked about it Thursday in an interview, Mr. Trump made clear after some rambling that he was talking about destructive riots. He said he’d “certainly not [use force] against my opponents—it’s against civil unrest.”

Even if Mr. Trump doesn’t mean this, he’d have to face the obstacles built into the American system. His own judicial nominees rejected his claims about a stolen election, and Republicans in and outside his Administration blocked his attempt to overturn the election.

JD Vance is no Mike Pence, but the Electoral Count Act makes a replay of 2020 more difficult. We have confidence that American institutions—the Supreme Court, the military, Congress—would resist any attempt to subvert the Constitution.

This gets to another reason most Americans don’t think Mr. Trump is a unique threat to democracy. They have seen Democrats break all sorts of political norms to defeat him.

Democrats exploited the Russia collusion narrative in 2016 until it was exposed as a lie financed by Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Democrats tried to keep Mr. Trump off the presidential ballot this year. Democrats have used the law in no fewer than five cases to disqualify him—and New York’s Attorney General campaigned explicitly on a promise to find something, anything, to charge him with. This subverts a basic principle of American justice.

Democrats—including Ms. Harris—are also candid in saying they want to compromise the independence of the Supreme Court with new political rules and supervision. If they get even narrow control of the Senate, along with the House and White House, they say they will break the 60-vote filibuster rule to do it. That in our view is a greater threat to the Constitution than anything Mr. Trump might be able to do in a second term.

All of which is to say that the fear of fascism would have more credibility if Democrats didn’t abuse power themselves. If they lose the election against a flawed Mr. Trump, it won’t be because he is a wannabe Mussolini. The reason will be the Biden-Harris record.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-fasc...oters-5e513359

OMG! the Democrats are the real fascist threat to Democracy!!!

who knew??


bahahahahahaa

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

That stupid people are influenced by scary words, even if coming from a disgruntled former employee with an axe to grind. “Fascist” is right up there with “assault weapon” in this regard.

Trump is neither far right, or authoritarian. He’s a solid centerist. I wonder, who was the last fascist looking to bulldoze a federal department of education? Reinforce measures assuring the citizens could possess weapons? Be a peace monger?

Trump actually undermines fascism. Kelly knows this, at least he should given his resume. He’s spouting this bs because he thinks you don’t, and he’s obviously correct in his thinking.

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Answer a couple simple questions that you’re avoiding like the plague.

I can’t answer your questions because I don’t think they have any real relevance to the topic statement “Trump the fascist”.

Trying to equate American society to a fascist state is absurd. The statement is “Trump the Fascist”. And I think there is plenty of evidence that Trump is a fascist or has fascist tendencies. He’s definitely an authoritarian. The fact that he emphasizes loyalty over competence, the use of the military to arrest and punish his opponents, the refusal to leave power and his personal enrichment over the needs of the people.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I can’t answer your questions because I don’t think they have any real relevance to the topic statement “Trump the fascist”.

Trying to equate American society to a fascist state is absurd. The statement is “Trump the Fascist”. And I think there is plenty of evidence that Trump is a fascist or has fascist tendencies. He’s definitely an authoritarian. The fact that he emphasizes loyalty over competence, the use of the military to arrest and punish his opponents, the refusal to leave power and his personal enrichment over the needs of the people.

having read Tiny's article you have no problem with the many clear fascist attempts by Democrats to prevent Trump from running for office and yet still think Trump is a fascist.


got it.

[LayingPipe]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

But what does John Kelly know

91.5 percent of the staff Harris began with three years ago have since quit
Quotes from former employees:
"You're constantly propping up a bully"
"Don't look her directly in the eye"
"Mentally unstable"
"Unable to lead a small staff"

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...t-three-years/