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Old 01-18-2015, 03:23 PM   #16
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No, I believe they are fairly demonized..
Regardless of what a Muslim tells you , you have no way of knowing if they are truthful with you since you are an infidel.
If they say to an infidel that they are a religion of peace then that means they are only biding their time until you are either converted or killed.
Islam is a cult at best.

You apparently have not read the Quran- and I am not talking about reading a passage here and there- actually I don't think you even fully read the Bible. If you actually read the Quran it's 75 percent Old and New Testament- many of the stories are re-told again nearly verbatim: Creation, Noah's Ark, Moses, Solomon, The Virgin Birth, in fact most people don't know that Jesus name appears more times in the Quran than Muhammad's name. Where Islam gets confusing or controversial are when you add the Hadiths- which are suppose to be the spoken words of Muhammad. The Hadiths are interpreted differently by different sects of muslims. The radicals- i.e- Isis-Boko Haram, Al-queada take a strict interpretation to the extreme- most law abiding muslims don't even follow the Hadiths. The Quran in itself is nowhere near as radical as the Hadiths. The Hadiths have Shariah law not the Quran- heck in the Quran no where does it even say that woman should cover their faces- those laws all come from the Hadith in which radicals have abused.
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If you have specific remarks by Murdock demonizing the whole Muslim population for the action of a few, then post his comment.

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To answer your question on rupert: Media mogul Rupert Murdoch is getting slammed on Twitter after making controversial statements about Muslims in light of the Paris terror attacks.

The News Corp. CEO seemed to suggest that all Muslims, even those who don't support extremist views, should have to answer for those who carry out terror attacks.

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Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible.
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TrendingIdiot, are you still "Waiting," as you claimed?

Next time Trendy don't wait, just open mouth and insert foot!
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:33 PM   #18
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I'm willing to say Christians have done a lot of bad things - are you happy now?
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:51 PM   #19
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And where were those Christians who were stopping those atrocities? Have you spoke out against the Timothy McVeigh's and the KKK's of the world- because last time I checked the Aryan Brotherhood and KKK still exist albeit not as powerful as they once were, but their presence is still around in the U.S. Heck didn't a Republican Senator catch some heat for giving a speech to the KKK or some white supremacist group a couple of weeks ago?
And didnt a 50+ year liberal senator (Klansman)named Byrd just pass away a short while back ? I have no platform to scream against the klan or the mentioned republican senator but I dont owe any allegiance to either. Also I wasnt here during the christian campaigns you sited.
Either way enjoy cradling your muslim swine as they fuck over the world in the name of their prophet and allah.
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:00 PM   #20
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So based on the above reference material- muslims have a lot of killing to do before they catch up with Christians. Sadly you guys blame the actions of few and stick to the masses of billions who have nothing to do with the radicals.
You're a moron, WE. Noticed how you didn't produce and proof that the KKK killed 2,000 people in a day, WE.

Islam has long since surpassed Christians in committing atrocities in the name of their religion. More Indians, at least 80,000,000, were killed during the course of Islamic jihad in India than First Nations peoples killed in the name of Christianity, WE. And you're a dissembling liar when you proffer that Hitler's Death Camps were instituted under the auspices of Christianity, WE.







At the beginning of the 20th century, WE, Muslim Turkey killed almost one million Christian Greeks and 1.5 million Christian Armenians.

BTW, WE, evidently you haven't noticed how Islamic terrorists are responsible for killing hundreds to thousands of people almost every month since the turn of the century.

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It appears to me that every time a radical muslim makes news- we tend to demonize the whole religion as if they(Muslims) all have the same agenda. I am no muslim apologist by any means- but I think to categorize a religion of over 1 billion people by the actions of a few is insane.

The KKK considers themselves Christians and many times quote verses from the Bible to justify their actions and agenda- but you don't see massed of people demonizing Christianity for the actions of the KKK.
The main reason why you don't normally see Christianity scoffed at by the actions of the KKK is because the KKK was primarily a political movement instead of a religious one. But I will agree it's unjust to ostracize a whole group of people based on the actions of a few misguided extremists.


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The "peaceful" parts of Islam are the ones that financially established westernized muslims follow. I know several. They love blue jeans, Coca-cola, alcohol, and bacon. Of course, they were born in the US and are younger.

Just let the Mcdonaldization of the world happen...soon enough more will convert to "American" ideals. (I'm being rather facetious but it holds true. Commercialism and media are the best modern way to get other cultures to toe the line.)
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The "peaceful" parts of Islam are the ones that financially established westernized muslims follow. I know several. They love blue jeans, Coca-cola, alcohol, and bacon. Of course, they were born in the US and are younger.

Just let the Mcdonaldization of the world happen...soon enough more will convert to "American" ideals. (I'm being rather facetious but it holds true. Commercialism and media are the best modern way to get other cultures to toe the line.)
Western commercialism (championing Western values) is precisely what is agitating reactionary, Islamic fundamentalists.
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Because they know it's the biggest threat to the way they have been doing things. I'm not saying that is what should be, I'm just stating what is happening and what will happen years from now.
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Boko Haram 'in Cameroon kidnappings'
18 January 2015 Last updated at 15:49 ET

Suspected militants from Nigerian Islamist group Boko Haram have kidnapped dozens of people in raids in neighbouring Cameroon, officials say.

They said many of those kidnapped in the cross border attack against villages were children.

Four villagers who tried to fend off the attackers were killed, a security source has told the BBC.

Boko Haram has seized control of towns and villages in north-east Nigeria, and begun threatening neighbouring nations....

"They burnt to ashes almost 80 houses," said Cameroon's Information Minister, Issa Tchiroma Bakary.

A police officer told the AFP news agency put the figure of hostages at around 60, saying "most were women and children".

Officials told Reuters that as many as 80 people had been kidnapped. Those abducted included about 30 adults and 50 children between the ages of 10 and 15, an army officer deployed to northern Cameroon told the agency.


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IB did you not comprehend anything I mentioned? First, let me remind you I am a proud Christian. Next an most important I agree Boko Haram, Al-Queada, and ISIS are scum of the earth- but you act as if those idiots represent 1.6 Billion muslims. There's estimate of nearly anywhere from 2 to 7 million muslims in the USA. Are they all terrorist? You are very ignorant to assume that Boko Haram and ISIS represent the majority of muslims. Trust me if the majority of muslims were terrorist the U.S and the world world would be in deep shit by just the sheer numbers itself. You quoting references of Boko Haram killing innocent people and equating that to mean all muslims are alike is as dumb as someone posting an article of the Bloods and Crips committing a murder and labeling all Blacks as gang bangers.

The Mexican Drug Cartels in Mexico are just as violent as ISIS and Boko Haram and they(Drug Cartels) have been beheading and brutally killing innocent people way before Boko Haram and ISIS formed- so is it fair to label all Mexicans as brutal killers. In the long run the drug cartels have a bigger impact in the USA than either ISIS or Boko Haram.
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IB did you not comprehend anything I mentioned? First, let me remind you I am a proud Christian. Next an most important I agree Boko Haram, Al-Queada, and ISIS are scum of the earth- but you act as if those idiots represent 1.6 Billion muslims. There's estimate of nearly anywhere from 2 to 7 million muslims in the USA. Are they all terrorist? You are very ignorant to assume that Boko Haram and ISIS represent the majority of muslims. Trust me if the majority of muslims were terrorist the U.S and the world world would be in deep shit by just the sheer numbers itself. You quoting references of Boko Haram killing innocent people and equating that to mean all muslims are alike is as dumb as someone posting an article of the Bloods and Crips committing a murder and labeling all Blacks as gang bangers.

The Mexican Drug Cartels in Mexico are just as violent as ISIS and Boko Haram and they(Drug Cartels) have been beheading and brutally killing innocent people way before Boko Haram and ISIS formed- so is it fair to label all Mexicans as brutal killers. In the long run the drug cartels have a bigger impact in the USA than either ISIS or Boko Haram.


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“I know most Muslim people would not have carried out an attack like this,” the host of HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher said on ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel Live. “But here’s the important point: Hundreds of millions of them support an attack like this. They applaud an attack like this. What they say is, ‘We don’t approve of violence, but you know what? When you make fun of the Prophet, all bets are off...."

“That is mainstream in the Muslim world. When you make fun of the Prophet, all bets are off. You get what’s coming to you. It’s also mainstream that if you leave the religion, you get what’s coming to you—which is death."

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And where were those Christians who were stopping those atrocities? Have you spoke out against the Timothy McVeigh's and the KKK's of the world- because last time I checked the Aryan Brotherhood and KKK still exist albeit not as powerful as they once were, but their presence is still around in the U.S. Heck didn't a Republican Senator catch some heat for giving a speech to the KKK or some white supremacist group a couple of weeks ago?
McVeigh was a atheist and your democrat's shut down the KKK over 20 years ago. Today your KKK is 2,000 members strong.
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Damn good point!! Gentiles do have their function....
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WE, you might want to do more research before you accuse the Christian religion of causing and carrying out the Rwandan genocide... you fucking Ozombie
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