HARVEY!! GO the FUCK AWAY, HARVEY!!

[dallasfan]

I think most of the Katrina victims moved to Houston. Now they get hit by Harvey.

[Copierguy0]

Originally Posted by CG2014

Harvey is weakening quickly after making landfall about 13 hours ago.

New projection is showing it will just keep heading North toward Austin and beyond (by Thursday) until it's not more.

The 3 feet of rain in some areas that was predicted didn't happen.

The other prediction where it will make a 180 back out to the gulf while still a hurricane and then regain strength over water before turning NE toward Houston is not going to happen either...

Harvey is now less than a tropical storm and not moving, just hoovering. The new projection is the light rain will stop by TUESDAY. The standing water has no where to go. There are no sewer systems. They have to wait until the standing water is absorbed into the land. News channels are making a mountain out of a mole hill. This area gets a hurricane or tropical storm every year around this same time frame. you would think they would put in some kind of sewer system or drainage of some kind by now, so the standing water has some place to go. (i can only guess that year after year, it's NOT a high priority) I understand that flash flooding is very hard to drain but something is better than nothing. The news channels love to post videos of the worse poor drainage areas, not in the DOWNTOWN AREA's OF the bigger city's like Houston, SA, or Austin, which should have a better drainage system in place.

CG

[pyramider]

Maybe they should move to Tucson.

[dallasfan]

It's not that the downtown areas have better drainage systems. It's that downtown areas are usually built on higher ground and don't have drainage channels that overflow.

Drainage systems are not designed to handle these types of events. Anywhere. It would be too expensive.

Originally Posted by Copierguy0

Harvey is now less than a tropical storm and not moving, just hoovering. The new projection is the light rain will stop by TUESDAY. The standing water has no where to go. There are no sewer systems. They have to wait until the standing water is absorbed into the land. News channels are making a mountain out of a mole hill. This area gets a hurricane or tropical storm every year around this same time frame. you would think they would put in some kind of sewer system or drainage of some kind by now, so the standing water has some place to go. (i can only guess that year after year, it's NOT a high priority) I understand that flash flooding is very hard to drain but something is better than nothing. The news channels love to post videos of the worse poor drainage areas, not in the DOWNTOWN AREA's OF the bigger city's like Houston, SA, or Austin, which should have a better drainage system in place.

CG

[Taurus99]

lol,smh, not sure what they are telling you guys in Dallas but this storm is for real. Not trying to bash dallas as I really like my dallas spinners There is not much Civil engineers could do about this and without getting technical basically this is not a 100yr storm or a 500yr storm more like it's a 1000yr storm. Dallasfan is correct in that you can't prepare for this. The problem right now is the eye of the storm hasn't moved much and houston has been getting pelted from the same rain ban with No Breaks for the drainage system to do its job as the rain ban has an unlimited supply of moisture to draw from in the gulf. As far as predictions, it is not over. The storm is supposedly going to move back slowly south towards the gulf and then towards Houston. Kinda sucks because there were some dallas hotties coming to Houston this week I was looking to see, but not sure if the roads are going to allow it lol

[CG2014]

It won't be over until about Saturday and until then, it will just keep dumping rain all over the SE Texas area including Houston and it still has to go northeast over Houston first before leaving the state of Texas.

[CG2014]

With more rain between now and Friday while Harvey crawls northward over Houston before completely leaving Texas by the end of the week, mandatory evacuations and curfews are in effect for many parts of Houston and surrounding counties.

I have friends in those mandatory and voluntarily evacuation areas on the maps.

Where they are are going to go? Many of the roads, big and small, and highways and freeways are flooded. How are they going to even just get to one of the shelters?

[pyramider]

Where are you getting this info? You and Copier are the chicken littles in N TX. There are no evacuations in Houston mentioned.


Monday, August 28, 2017 05:21AM
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- As unprecedented amounts of rain continue to fall across the Houston area, evacuation orders continue to be issued.

MANDATORY EVACUATION:
UPDATE 5:19 AM - Conroe - City officials say McDade Estates is under a mandatory evacuation, but are recommending residents in River Plantation, Woodhaven Forest, Artesian, Riverbrook Drive and Sherbrook Circle, neighborhoods off of FM 2854, and the neighborhoods downstream from McDade Estates.
UPDATE 3:01 AM MONDAY - Conroe - Record levels of water being released from Lake Conroe Dam. The city will be evacuating McDade Estates, while other neighborhoods will be evacuated by the county.
MISSOURI CITY - Fort Bend County officials said Missouri City residents under mandatory evacuations should leave at daylight. Here is a map of the evacuation zones.
UPDATE 11:46 PM SUNDAY - Bay City - Catastrophic flooding of up to 10 feet of water is expected in downtown Bay City on Monday. A mandatory evacuation has been called for 1 p.m. tomorrow for the entire city and surrounding areas.
Sugar Land - The Fort Bend County Judge's Office says a mandatory evacuation has been issued for Sugar Land residents in First Colony Levee Improvement District #1 and those living within the Fort Bend County Levee Improvement District #7.
UPDATE 10 PM SUNDAY - Rosenberg - Rosenberg police posted mandatory evacuation for homes on Huntington Rd. Unknown if bridge into area will hold as river levels rise. Bridge is only way out.
UPDATE 11:30 AM SUNDAY- Simonton - A mandatory evacuation has been ordered for Simonton, Texas effective 10:00 A.M. August 27, .2017 for Sections 1, 2 and 3 of Valley Lodge Subdivision due to the conditions of the Brazos River
UPDATE 1:50 PM SUNDAY - Fort Bend County - Fort Bend County Judge Robert Hebert has upgraded the voluntary evacuation order for certain residents in low-lying areas surrounding the Brazos River to a mandatory evacuation order. If you are a resident in the evacuation zones and you do not have transportation or a place to go - PLEASE CALL 211 and request assistance with the evacuation.
Brazoria County - County Judge Matt Sebesta has issued a MANDATORY EVACUATION for all residents living WEST of State Highway 288 and SOUTH of State Highway 6. Refer to attached map.
An evacuation route has been established for State Highway 35 Westbound to Matagorda County to Northbound State Highway 71 reaching Interstate 10. Refer to map. THERE ARE NO OTHER EVACUATION ROUTES OUT OF BRAZORIA COUNTY. State Highway 35 WILL NOT be open indefinitely and will be unpassable with additional rains and river flooding. LEAVE NOW! Residents needing a place to go can shelter in Bell County. Self-Evacuation destination in Bell County will be the EXPO CENTER, 301 West Loop, Belton, Texas. Pets are welcome!
Aransas Pass - Mandatory evacuation order issued
Calhoun County - Mandatory evacuation order issued
Freeport - City officials have ordered a mandatory evacuation for all low-lying coastal areas, including Bridge Harbor. All other residents are also encouraged to evacuate.
Matagorda County - Everyone south of FM521 is included in the mandatory evacuation order, including the communities of Palacios, Collegeport, Matagorda, Sargent and Wadsworth.
Rosenberg - Due to the potential serious threat of flooding and record high levels of the Brazos River, the City of Rosenberg has issued areas of mandatory evacuation for residents and visitors in parts of Rosenberg:
West Street and Mulcahy Street: North of Avenue D
River Road area: All properties North of River Road, adjacent to the river
North of Brazos: all properties North of the Brazos River, within City limits
North Rosenberg: All properties East of 4th Street, North of Avenue B; all properties on 1st Street North of Avenue D


VOLUNTARY EVACUATION:
Galveston County - Judge Mark Henry has issued a voluntary evacuation for residents in all unincorporated low-lying areas of the county. This includes San Leon, Bacliff, Old Bayou Vista, and Highland Bayou. The latest areas are in addition to the order already in effect for the Bolivar Peninsula, including the unincorporated areas of Port Bolivar, Crystal Beach, High Island and Gilchrist. Residents who rely on medical assistance or those who cannot go without power for an extended period of time are encouraged to leave.
Brazoria County - Voluntary evacuation order issued for low-lying coastal areas inland of Intracoastal Waterway. There is also a voluntary evacuation for residents living along the San Bernard River, but mandatory evacuations may be necessary, according to the office of Brazoria County Judge Matt Sebesta.
Chambers County - A voluntary evacuation order has been issued for Smith Point, Cedar Point, all RV parks, those living in unanchored mobile homes and other low-lying areas known to flood.
Dickinson - City officials have issued a voluntary evacuation order for citizens with medical conditions and special needs as well as those in low-lying areas.
Freeport - In addition to a mandatory evacuation for low-lying areas, city officials are urging all residents to self-evacuate.
Galveston's West End - Voluntary Evacuation called for those with medical or access and functional needs on the West End of Galveston. Anyone who needs assistance leaving the island, please call 409-797-3701 or sign up online on the website www.galvestontx.gov/needaride.
Kemah - Residents who rely on medical assistance or those who cannot go without power for an extended period of time are encouraged to leave.
La Porte - As of 9:30a.m. Friday, the City has issued a Voluntary Evacuation order for the entire city prior to the arrival of Hurricane Harvey. The area remains under a Tropical Storm Warning and Storm Surge Watch, and expects to receive significant rainfall totals from this storm.
Seabrook - Voluntary evacuation issued with the elderly and those with medical conditions in mind. Residents encouraged to leave by noon on Friday, Aug. 25.
Sugar Land - All other Sugar Land and ETJ residents within levee districts outside those covered by the mandatory evacuation are under a voluntary evacuation at this time.
NOTE: Jersey Village has not issued a voluntary evacuation order, despite social media posts indicating otherwise.

Emergency officials have laid out evacuation routes for coastal communities, with storm surge dangers in mind.

[CG2014]

I said:

many parts of Houston and surrounding counties

the list you just posted are Houston and surrounding counties.

You have many parts of Harris counties that are still Houston addresses.

Houston is 680 square miles.

[dallasfan]

Think Houston official didn't want to have a repeat of katrina and New Orleans. Trying to evacuate a city of millions in a day just won't work. The highways would be clogged up and they would have a bigger mess on their hands. More deaths, highways would be clogged where emergency vehicles can't get through, etc

The lesson from Katrina is that bussing people out wil work but you have to get them out to an area that is not in danger and will have the needed supplies

[dallasfan]

That warm front is really pushing it down. Looks like it keeps going east.

Initially the eye was suppose to go through Tyler but is now moving up the coast of the gulf and heading towards central and eastern Louisiana.

[CG2014]

I have friends who live in Fort Bend County: Sugar Land, Stafford, First Colony, Greatwood, New Territory, Pecan Grove, etc

This morning this map was orange (voluntarily evacuation) and red (mandatory evacuation) but mostly orange.

https://fbcgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/...35bed305c81841

Now there is only that one section of orange left and if I were still in that area labeled orange, I would be gone already.

It will be red soon with 3-5 more days of rain.

[pyramider]

Fucking Dallas sheep ...

[waterfalllover]

OP CG2014,

Its too late, The damage is already done and the long term effects, shit! The water is 3 ft deep in a Rockport neighborhood according to last night's news. You could see down the entire street, people in their flat bottom boats getting around.

Houston & surrounding small cities & towns are Fucked.
H-Town swampland.

[Copierguy0]

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...s-10826834.php

This all happened BEFORE Harvey.
By Dylan Baddour December 31, 2016 Updated: January 3, 2017 12:27pm

Virtually none of Houston's old pipes meet even the 100-year standard. As the city grows denser, the drainage system falls further behind.

We don't have to call each other names or try to get 1 up on the next guy. HOUSTON has been in trouble with rain fall for decades. Maybe y'all will believe the HOUSTON CHRONICLE with stats, pictures, and detailed documentation. Houston maintains 2,900 miles of roadside ditches, 3,600 miles of storm sewer pipes, plus 120,000 sewers, roadway grates and other inlets for floods to enter the system.
THATS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH, WITH OLD SMALL DIAMETER PIPES.

What will it take to fix the Houston floods? A lot. It mostly comes down to making space for the water and investing in drainage infrastructure. Pictured: Construction crews work to expand Brays Bayou,

pyramider, there is enough information all over the web, we ALL have access to it.

CG