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Old 01-13-2019, 12:21 PM   #16
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Old 01-13-2019, 01:33 PM   #17
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Recep Erdagon is the elected President of Turkey. He is not a Dictator..........yet.

he acts like one.


considering the way he conducted the putsch internally.
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Old 01-13-2019, 02:25 PM   #18
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he acts like one.


considering the way he conducted the putsch internally.
And Flynn new he was a bad player on the international scene but was bought for a couple hundred thousand bucks. Judge Sullivan had Flynn pegged.

Flynn should rot in prison. This whole sorid affair where countries donate to your company or party or foundation for favors should be aganizt the fucking law.

Flynn is the poisonous fruit from the tree...IB and LL got this one wrong.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:37 AM   #19
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When a faction of the Turkish military attempted to overthrow President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in July, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn celebrated the coup effort as something “worth clapping for.”
But a Dutch company headed by a man with ties to Erdogan’s government hired Flynn’s intelligence firm about two months later. Since then, Flynn has dramatically reversed his public position on the failed putsch in Turkey. Earlier this month, he wrote a piece in The Hill hailing Erdogan’s Turkey as a critical U.S. ally and calling on the Obama administration to extradite the cleric Ankara has accused of orchestrating the coup.

At the time of the attempted coup, Flynn viewed Erdogan as an Islamist who was leading Turkey down the wrong path. As the violent effort to oust the Turkish president unfolded, Flynn addressed an audience in Cleveland, where he was promoting his book on radical Islam.

“Probably most of you don’t know, but there’s an ongoing coup going on in Turkey right now,” Flynn said during remarks. Turkey, Flynn warned, had begun “to move toward Islamism.”

“This is Turkey under Erdogan ― who is actually very close to President [Barack] Obama,” Flynn said, speaking at the Cleveland chapter of ACT for America, a group that describes itself as “the [National Rifle Association] of national security.”

“If the military succeeds,” Flynn continued, “one of the things that the military immediately said is, ‘We recognize our responsibilities with NATO, we recognize our responsibilities with the United Nations, we want to make sure that the world knows, we are, we want to be seen as a secular nation.’” The audience cheered.

“That is worth clapping for,” Flynn said.

This is worth repeating...

I do not understand why IB and LL would defend such a man who places money over country...
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:59 AM   #20
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This is worth repeating...

I do not understand why IB and LL would defend such a man who places money over country...
hildebeest and Slick Willie took millions from the Russians. hildebeest was using her position as Secretary of State not only for personal profit but as an active agent for Libyan business interests and George Soros. Flynn's personal involvement with foreign governments pales in comparison. So, don't presume to lecture others about optics. And, as a reminder, Flynn is a democrat.
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hildebeest and Slick Willie took millions from the Russians. hildebeest was using her position as Secretary of State not only for personal profit but as an active agent for Libyan business interests and George Soros. Flynn's personal involvement with foreign governments pales in comparison. So, don't presume to lecture others about optics. And, as a reminder, Flynn is a democrat.
I'll lecture anybody tjat defended Mike Flynn's action , which you have done.

I have never defended Clinton in regards to that Foundation.

Unlike like you and others, I'm not a hypocrite in these matters.

Trump, Flynn and Clinton are all cut from the same cloth.
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I'll lecture anybody tjat defended Mike Flynn's action , which you have done.

I have never defended Clinton in regards to that Foundation.

Unlike like you and others, I'm not a hypocrite in these matters.

Trump, Flynn and Clinton are all cut from the same cloth.
Flynn is less guilty than a multitude of others. Odumbo is culpable because what hildebeest did, she did on Odumb's watch. Hell, Kerry is openly advocating policy with Iranian officials in defiance of current American policy with Iran, and you say nothing while the talking-heads in the lame-stream media encourage his traitorous behavior!
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Flynn is less guilty than a multitude of others. Odumbo is culpable because what hildebeest did, she did on Odumb's watch. Hell, Kerry is openly advocating policy with Iranian officials in defiance of current American policy with Iran, and you say nothing while the talking-heads in the lame-stream media encourage his traitorous behavior!
I will castigate anybody who changes their position for money in defiance of this country's best interest. That is exactly wtf Flynn did.

I will not defend them like you have Flynn.

Both you and LL thought Judge Sullivan was going to exonerate that lying piece of s*** Mike Flynn...when in fact the true patriot was the Judge himself. He called Flynn for exactly wtf he was
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:23 AM   #24
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I will castigate anybody who changes their position for money in defiance of this country's best interest. That is exactly wtf Flynn did.

I will not defend them like you have Flynn.

Both you and LL thought Judge Sullivan was going to exonerate that lying piece of s*** Mike Flynn...when in fact the true patriot was the Judge himself. He called Flynn for exactly wtf he was

The judge said he misspoke regarding Flynn; so, you are misrepresenting what the hell the judge said ... just as you are misrepresenting what I said. So, you know what that makes you, don't you? Flynn will be exonerated. No one has ever been successfully prosecuted under the Logan Act, which is the only other charge Team Mueller said they could bring against him. The charge of lying to the FBI is bullshit based on a fraudulent warrant and an illegal search.
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The judge said he misspoke regarding Flynn; so, you are misrepresenting what the hell the judge said ... just as you are misrepresenting what I said. So, you know what that makes you, don't you? Flynn will be exonerated. No one has ever been successfully prosecuted under the Logan Act, which is the only other charge Team Mueller said they could bring against him. The charge of lying to the FBI is bullshit based on a fraudulent warrant and an illegal search.
The judge did not misspeak , he just clarified from a legal standpoint that Flynn was not legally a traitor but if you read wtf Flynn said about the coup attempt in Turkey BEFORE he was paid by agents of Turkey and after he was paid, he is a fucking TRAITOR to this country.
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The judge did not misspeak , he just clarified from a legal standpoint that Flynn was not legally a traitor but if you read wtf Flynn said about the coup attempt in Turkey BEFORE he was paid by agents of Turkey and after he was paid, he is a fucking TRAITOR to this country.
The "legal definition" is the only fucking definition that counts: the rest are bullshit.
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Here, let me repeat this for you I B.

Would you change your mind about wanting a secular voice leading Turkey for a little money to a dictatorial Muslim? That is wtf Flynn did. Fuck your poisonious tree and Mike Flynn.


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When a faction of the Turkish military attempted to overthrow President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in July, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn celebrated the coup effort as something “worth clapping for.”
But a Dutch company headed by a man with ties to Erdogan’s government hired Flynn’s intelligence firm about two months later. Since then, Flynn has dramatically reversed his public position on the failed putsch in Turkey. Earlier this month, he wrote a piece in The Hill hailing Erdogan’s Turkey as a critical U.S. ally and calling on the Obama administration to extradite the cleric Ankara has accused of orchestrating the coup.

At the time of the attempted coup, Flynn viewed Erdogan as an Islamist who was leading Turkey down the wrong path. As the violent effort to oust the Turkish president unfolded, Flynn addressed an audience in Cleveland, where he was promoting his book on radical Islam.

“Probably most of you don’t know, but there’s an ongoing coup going on in Turkey right now,” Flynn said during remarks. Turkey, Flynn warned, had begun “to move toward Islamism.”

“This is Turkey under Erdogan ― who is actually very close to President [Barack] Obama,” Flynn said, speaking at the Cleveland chapter of ACT for America, a group that describes itself as “the [National Rifle Association] of national security.”

“If the military succeeds,” Flynn continued, “one of the things that the military immediately said is, ‘We recognize our responsibilities with NATO, we recognize our responsibilities with the United Nations, we want to make sure that the world knows, we are, we want to be seen as a secular nation.’” The audience cheered.

“That is worth clapping for,” Flynn said.

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The "legal definition" is the only fucking definition that counts: the rest are bullshit.

Ok OJ.

So according to you both Flynn and OJ are innocent!
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Here, let me repeat this for you I B.

Would you change your mind about wanting a secular voice leading Turkey for a little money to a dictatorial Muslim?
As long as there is an obvious double-standard wherein dim-retards get a pass while Republicans are prosecuted, I will not change my mind. When the laws in this country are enforced equally across party lines, I will change my mind. Until then, Flynn gets a pass from me because hildebeest profited from foreign agents while she was on the taxpayers' nickle. Flynn wasn't.
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As long as there is an obvious double-standard wherein dim-retards get a pass while Republicans are prosecuted, I will not change my mind. When the laws in this country are enforced equally across party lines, I will change my mind. Until then, Flynn gets a pass from me because hildebeest profited from foreign agents while she was on the taxpayers' nickle. Flynn wasn't.
One should decry this abuse no matter the party affiliation.

I did not vote for either Trump or Clinton because they have no morals and will glady profit from their positions.

But Flynn basically did a quid pro quo. If it was up to me, he'd be shot as an example for others.

Judge Sullivan, who you erroneously thought would give Flynn a pass seemed to agree with me to just what a POS Flynn is.

Nothing will ever be fixed in this country politically as long as folks have your attitude.
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