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Old 07-22-2020, 05:30 PM   #16
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The cause of the PPE shortage has nothing to do with Fauci being taken out of context for what and why he said not to wear masks.


You "strategically" left out this part in your response:

ProPublica reported on April 3 that congressional budget battles in the early years of the Obama administration contributed to stockpile shortages. But the article notes available funds were used not to replenish masks: "With limited resources, officials in charge of the stockpile tend to focus on buying lifesaving drugs from small biotechnology firms that would, in the absence of a government buyer, have no other market for their products, experts said. Masks and other protective equipment are in normal times widely available and thus may not have been prioritized for purchase, they said."

During the presidency of Donald Trump, analysts have warned the United States is not prepared for a serious pandemic.

'Gross misjudment':Experts say Trump's decision to disband pandemic team hindered coronavirus response

“We assess that the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support,” the 2019 World Threat Assessment from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence states.


The Trump administration has not taken significant steps to replenish the masks in the Strategic National Stockpile.


(that's all right there in the article. It's written exactly right above what you copy/pasted to respond to me)













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early years of Obama. didn't he have a Democratic majority for a few years? until he tanked in his first midterm. so it was a DEMOCRAT controlled Congress that FAILED to restock.



must be a hard living for the liberal press .. what with all the whitewashing needed to protect blackie Obama's failures.


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Fauci has been in DC too long just like pelosi, schummer, biden, etc.



Fauci has had his nose up Big Pharma's ass for decades.
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Old 07-23-2020, 05:48 AM   #17
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early years of Obama. didn't he have a Democratic majority for a few years? until he tanked in his first midterm. so it was a DEMOCRAT controlled Congress that FAILED to restock.

must be a hard living for the liberal press .. what with all the whitewashing needed to protect blackie Obama's failures.

Fauci has had his nose up Big Pharma's ass for decades.
Yes, he had a majority for his first 2 years. Yes, he should have restocked and didn't.

The original point remains; why did trump want to throw Fauci under the bus when he knew exactly why he recommended that everyone should not wear masks?


As long as you brought up majorities: why didn't trump get money for his "big, beautiful" border wall while he had a majority instead of unlawfully stealing it from the Pentagon?
And why does he keep saying he's built 250 new miles when he has only built 3 new miles? (90 old miles of it have been repaired and/or replaced)










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Amazing doctor making huge predictions. Spectacular distancing and wonderful masks are key to this unbelievable economic recovery whew
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Old 07-23-2020, 05:54 PM   #19
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Yes, he had a majority for his first 2 years. Yes, he should have restocked and didn't.

The original point remains; why did trump want to throw Fauci under the bus when he knew exactly why he recommended that everyone should not wear masks?


so you are saying Trump should have thrown Obama under the bus instead of poor little Fauci? he threw them both under the bus for not restocking the supplies.


are you implying Fauci claimed you didn't need to wear as mask on Trump's orders? you'll have to prove he did that. Fauci wasn't in a press conference with Trump when he said that. it was an interview with 60 minutes.



As long as you brought up majorities: why didn't trump get money for his "big, beautiful" border wall while he had a majority instead of unlawfully stealing it from the Pentagon?
And why does he keep saying he's built 250 new miles when he has only built 3 new miles? (90 old miles of it have been repaired and/or replaced)


unlawful? the supreme court disagrees with you. you do know that they ruled in favor of Trump last year, right? so is the supreme court unlawful now?

also your numbers are completely wrong. where did you get them? not here ..


At 200 Miles Completed, Donald Trump's Border Wall Is Way Off Track


https://www.newsweek.com/200-miles-c...-track-1512457

"President Donald Trump is reportedly set to visit Yuma, Arizona on Tuesday to mark the completion of the 200th mile of the border wall he vowed to build between the U.S. and Mexico during his 2016 election campaign."

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you know why it took this long. the democrats being the fucktards that they are fought it tooth and nail. liberal judges did too. they tied it up on purpose. and they all got overruled by the supreme court.


funny that yeah? the border wall was started under Bushy II. and everyone and i mean everyone supported it including these assholes ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijLJSTGA3hs


so what changed? why did the Democrats suddenly oppose the wall AFTER voting FOR it?

you know why. with Obama in office after 2008 they intended to stonewall it, they never really thought a president would actually continue it. they didn't count on Trump getting elected.


he did.


BAHHAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Old 07-23-2020, 07:27 PM   #20
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BAHHAHAAAAAAAAA



he blew it





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NY did it correctly


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Old 07-24-2020, 05:27 AM   #22
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Awww, come on, trump would call that a "perfect" pitch!!
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Must have been the crowd scared him...
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Old 07-24-2020, 06:26 AM   #24
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First, the info about the 90 miles came from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall (1st section, last paragraph)

On December 17, 2019, acting Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Mark Morgan stated that 93 miles of barriers had been built during the Trump administration; according to CBP, at least 90 miles of that replaced existing structures.[13] By May 2020, only 16 miles out of 194 miles of wall constructed under the Trump administration was not replacement fencing. A private organization called We Build the Wall has constructed 0.5 miles (0.80 km) of new wall on private property near El Paso, Texas, with Trump's encouragement. In July 2020, privately funded wall associated with this organization was reported to be eroding. Trump distanced himself from the group, despite his administration having awarded it a $1.7 billion contract.

As far as trump claiming to have built 200 new miles (key word here is new):

Same link as above, last paragraph of section 5.7

As of May 2020, only 16 miles out of 194 miles of wall constructed under the Trump administration was not replacement fencing.[145] On June 23, Trump visited Yuma, Arizona, for a campaign rally commemorating the completion of 200 miles (320 km).[146] U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirms that almost all of this is replacement fencing.[147] On July 14, the House approved a military spending bill which would prohibit defense funds from being reallocated to the wall.[148]



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you know why it took this long. the democrats being the fucktards that they are fought it tooth and nail. liberal judges did too. they tied it up on purpose. and they all got overruled by the supreme court.


funny that yeah? the border wall was started under Bushy II. and everyone and i mean everyone supported it including these assholes ..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijLJSTGA3hs


so what changed? why did the Democrats suddenly oppose the wall AFTER voting FOR it?

you know why. with Obama in office after 2008 they intended to stonewall it, they never really thought a president would actually continue it. they didn't count on Trump getting elected.


he did.


BAHHAAAAAAAAAAAA

You it brought up that Obama had control of the house and senate and should have replenished the National Stockpile then.


So I was bringing up why didn't trump get his border wall funding when he had control of both houses?
One of trumps main campaign "promises" was Mexico will pay for the wall. He guaranteed the US will not spend a dime on the wall. He didn't say tariffs on Mexican goods would pay for it, he explicitly said Mexico would pay for every penny the wall would cost. (tariffs do not produce actual cash for the US)

Now you tell me what political party wouldn't jump all over that claim? The democrats knew Mexico would never pay for the wall. They called trump's bluff (lie if you will) and the rest is history.

I'll let you off on the Supreme Court ruling about the wall. I will note, though, that the ruling said proceed with already approved funding with the 2.5 billion congress denied him. It was then declared

Since you brought up stone walling it seems as though Moscow mitch became the master of that game during the Obama admin.


















Fauci's pitch last night was "perfect"!!


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Old 07-24-2020, 04:33 PM   #25
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Awww, come on, trump would call that a "perfect" pitch!!

woody? or woody not?


BAHHAAAAA


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First, the info about the 90 miles came from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall (1st section, last paragraph)

On December 17, 2019, acting Commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Mark Morgan stated that 93 miles of barriers had been built during the Trump administration; according to CBP, at least 90 miles of that replaced existing structures.[13] By May 2020, only 16 miles out of 194 miles of wall constructed under the Trump administration was not replacement fencing. A private organization called We Build the Wall has constructed 0.5 miles (0.80 km) of new wall on private property near El Paso, Texas, with Trump's encouragement. In July 2020, privately funded wall associated with this organization was reported to be eroding. Trump distanced himself from the group, despite his administration having awarded it a $1.7 billion contract.

As far as trump claiming to have built 200 new miles (key word here is new):

Same link as above, last paragraph of section 5.7

As of May 2020, only 16 miles out of 194 miles of wall constructed under the Trump administration was not replacement fencing.[145] On June 23, Trump visited Yuma, Arizona, for a campaign rally commemorating the completion of 200 miles (320 km).[146] U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirms that almost all of this is replacement fencing.[147] On July 14, the House approved a military spending bill which would prohibit defense funds from being reallocated to the wall.[148]



the Newsweek article does not differentiate between new and replacement. they simply say 200 miles.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico...administration




As of August 2019, the Trump administration's barrier construction has been limited to replacing sections that were in need of repair,[55] with 60 miles of replacement wall built in the Southwest since 2017.[56] As of September 12, 2019, the Trump administration plans for "Between 450 and 500 miles (724–806 kilometers) of fencing along the nearly 2,000-mile (3,218-kilometer) border by the end of 2020"[57][58] with an estimated total cost of $18.4 billion.[59] Privately owned land adjacent to the border would have to be acquired by the U.S. government to be built upon.[50]





let's say you are a carrot farmer. you have rabbit fencing to protect your carrots. the fencing is old and has holes in it letting the mexican rabbits from the south in to eat your carrots. do you ..


a) do nothing and lose your carrot harvest ...
b) replace the fencing to protect your carrots ...



WWWD?



What Would Woody Do ..



You it brought up that Obama had control of the house and senate and should have replenished the National Stockpile then.


So I was bringing up why didn't trump get his border wall funding when he had control of both houses?
One of trumps main campaign "promises" was Mexico will pay for the wall. He guaranteed the US will not spend a dime on the wall. He didn't say tariffs on Mexican goods would pay for it, he explicitly said Mexico would pay for every penny the wall would cost. (tariffs do not produce actual cash for the US)



he didn't say Mexico would write a check. and Mexico is paying to secure the border. their border. seen any caravans of soros migrants to the promised land lately? and i mean before the scamdemic.



even Jorge Ramos .. not exactly a Trump supporter .. admits it.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/o...-migrants.html


Trump Got His Wish. Mexico Is Now the Wall.



Now you tell me what political party wouldn't jump all over that claim? The democrats knew Mexico would never pay for the wall. They called trump's bluff (lie if you will) and the rest is history.

I'll let you off on the Supreme Court ruling about the wall. I will note, though, that the ruling said proceed with already approved funding with the 2.5 billion congress denied him. It was then declared


will you issue me an official ECCIE pardon? that'd be nice ..



Since you brought up stone walling it seems as though Moscow mitch became the master of that game during the Obama admin.


he learned from the best ...







BAHHAHAHAAAAAAAA



Fauci's pitch last night was "perfect"!!


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woody? or woody not?


BAHHAAAAA

You don’t get it. Actually you do get it but you prefer to twist it around to cover the promises and lies.
It doesn’t matter what Newsweek says. trump keeps saying new wall. He has not built 250 miles of new wall. He needs to say new wall because it’s a campaign promise he is lying about. Yes, I agree, the old fence needed replaced or repaired. But those sections ARE NOT NEW WALL.
What Mexico is doing with protection now, or troop placement now, or stopping crossings now is also irrelevant. He promised in his campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall. A campaign promise made to sound good but he was only lying to suck in the votes.
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You don’t get it. Actually you do get it but you prefer to twist it around to cover the promises and lies.
It doesn’t matter what Newsweek says. trump keeps saying new wall. He has not built 250 miles of new wall. He needs to say new wall because it’s a campaign promise he is lying about. Yes, I agree, the old fence needed replaced or repaired. But those sections ARE NOT NEW WALL.
What Mexico is doing with protection now, or troop placement now, or stopping crossings now is also irrelevant. He promised in his campaign that Mexico would pay for the wall. A campaign promise made to sound good but he was only lying to suck in the votes.

so yous a socialist open borders carrot farmer who allows mexican rabbits to steal your carrots and expect the US to give yous compensation for your loss of carrots to those nasty mexican rabbits.


ok. got it.


BAHHAAAA
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I wonder if this will do as well as Cuomo's coronavirus poster.
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so yous a socialist open borders carrot farmer who allows mexican rabbits to steal your carrots and expect the US to give yous compensation for your loss of carrots to those nasty mexican rabbits.


ok. got it.


BAHHAAAA
Your dumbo Donnie style stream of unconsciousness thought was telling here Wacky!!!....LOL
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