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Old 11-07-2012, 07:43 PM   #16
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Why did President Obama win? Because Mitt Romney only got 49.9 percent of the vote.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:58 PM   #17
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Why did President Obama win? Because Mitt Romney only got 49.9 percent of the vote.


According to CNN Romney got 57,744,506 votes or 48%, not 49.9%.








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Old 11-07-2012, 08:13 PM   #18
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Edited it.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:19 PM   #19
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Because he has to finish what he started
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:22 PM   #20
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Almost no one but Obama realized how Bush was close to destroy the USA.
And that idiot is still alive today.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:44 PM   #21
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Obama didn't win the election, the Republicans pissed it away. This one should have been a no-brainer. Unfortunately, that was too complex for the Republicans.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:02 PM   #22
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Obama didn't win the election, the Republicans pissed it away. This one should have been a no-brainer. Unfortunately, that was too complex for the Republicans.
For one time I agree with you.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:07 PM   #23
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Republicans make me laugh, for probably the next 12 years.
Because Hillary will be the next prezzident.

Paul Ryan is finished, that's the best news of the election.
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Republicans make me laugh, for probably the next 12 years.
Because Hillary will be the next prezzident.
Have you taken a look at her lately? She'll be 69 in 2016.

Reagan became President when he was 69 and he was one of the oldest, if not THE oldest, to win election for the first time.

And Reagan looked damn good for his age. Have you taken a look at Hillary lately?

One of the key talking points of the Democrats in 1980 was that Reagan was too old to be President at age 69. How are they going to walk that back in 2016 if Hillary is running?

Like it or not, we vote for candidates based in large part on personal appeal, including looks. Abraham Lincoln could NEVER get elected to national office nowadays. He'd be stuck in the Illinois state legislature. And we are even harsher to women than to men.

Again, have you taken a look a Hillary lately?

In 2016, there will be no Democratic incumbent, so all the 40 something and early 50 something hotshots in the Democratic party are going to be chomping at the bit to get there turn at the tilie. Including Hispanics and women who are also going to want to be Presidential "firsts", like Obama. Do you think they are going to show any deference to Hillary?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:24 PM   #25
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As long as the number of takers from government exceed the number of givers to government, the Democrats will have a permanent majority.
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Have you taken a look at her lately? She'll be 69 in 2016.

Reagan became President when he was 69 and he was one of the oldest, if not THE oldest, to win election for the first time.

And Reagan looked damn good for his age. Have you taken a look at Hillary lately?

One of the key talking points of the Democrats in 1980 was that Reagan was too old to be President at age 69. How are they going to walk that back in 2016 if Hillary is running?

Like it or not, we vote for candidates based in large part on personal appeal, including looks. Abraham Lincoln could NEVER get elected to national office nowadays. He'd be stuck in the Illinois state legislature. And we are even harsher to women than to men.

Again, have you taken a look a Hillary lately?
Elder women have way more future than elder men.
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Really? Check with Hillary's husband on that and get back to me.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:36 PM   #28
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Because Republican ideas alienate more than 50% of the electorate.

Wait until we get to run with a reasonably good economy in 2016 and y'all nominate a nut like Paul Ryan. You'll get beat like a rented mule. (2-3% fewer white voters then, remember! And 2-3 % fewer the cycle after that, etc. it just keeps getting better and better for us!!)
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You've got the question, now answer the question as best you can.
Since you asked I'll give it a shot but first I have to comment that most of the posters on here have not got a friggin' clue as to why Obama won and Romney lost.

The reason is all demographics. Romney captured the largest percentage of white male voters ever recorded, he lost because he ran out of them. For Hispanic voters Obama captured 75% of their votes while Romney could only muster 23%. The Republican party chose to ignore findings that a large percentage of Hispanics know or are related to someone here in the country illegally. When the Republican party started to wage war on illegal Hispanics that basically lost the election.

The Republican party catered to white males and totally ignored the fact that the US is now extremely diverse with a very large population of other cultures, religions and races. By limiting their appeal to rich, white males they sealed their fate. If you don't believe me go look it up. Google it if you like and then come back and try to dispute it.

“This is a defining moment for the Republican Party,” said GOP strategist Leslie Sanchez. “If Republicans don’t heed this warning, we are certainly in danger of becoming politically irrelevant at a national level.”

Matt Barreto of Latino Decisions, a nonpartisan polling and research firm, said that in Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico, “Latino voters by themselves provided Obama with the margin of victory.” He also said the 2012 election shows that in key states — such as Ohio and Florida — a strong showing from Latinos and African Americans “in tandem” was a difference maker.

The Republican Party, he said, “will be doomed if they lose black and Latino votes by these same margins in the future.”
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Wait until we get to run with a reasonably good economy in 2016
Nice assumption there.

What if it is not? In fact, forget 2016. What if in 2014 it is still dragging and we are still piling up more debt? Bush was largely responsible for the crash in 2008. But after 6 years, the electorate will be justified in thinking things should be better by now.

What if there is a repeat of 2010 midterms? The GOP already has the House and the Dems have a much slimmer majority in the Senate than they had in 2010. The GOP could lock up both Houses.

And if the economy is still bad in 2016? The GOP probably could run a nut like Paul Ryan and WIN. That's the scary part.

At that point, relying on more Hispanics and less whites won't save you, because Latinos will abandon the Dems, too. If Bush could get 40% of them, another Republican can get even more of them if the economy sucks.

The black vote is hopeless. But no one else.
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