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08-02-2024, 07:34 PM
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The Man (He/Him/His)
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Eh, the IBA. Their involvement alone is sketchy. Their president, Kremelev, has said both that their testing showed elevated testosterone levels and that no testosterone tests were performed but didn't disclose how their testing arrived at XY.
There are several reasons they no longer oversee things and were effectively kicked out of the IOC.
Let's see how this plays out. Might be more than meets the eye.
Khelif has never, ever been considered a world beater and only has 5 knockouts. Been very beatable until recently. And the gender test issue popped up after beating a Russian fighter last year. If any other group had raised this, it would be pretty believable.
Lin Yu-Ting has had an even less impressive career. Had no issues until last year.
If the IBA really did test for testosterone and not actually do genetic testing, their already tattered reputation will be irreparable.
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08-02-2024, 07:46 PM
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Eh, the IBA. Their involvement alone is sketchy. Their president, Kremelev, has said both that their testing showed elevated testosterone levels and that no testosterone tests were performed but didn't disclose how their testing arrived at XY.
There are several reasons they no longer oversee things and were effectively kicked out of the IOC.
Let's see how this plays out. Might be more than meets the eye.
Khelif has never, ever been considered a world beater and only has 5 knockouts. Been very beatable until recently. And the gender test issue popped up after beating a Russian fighter last year. If any other group had raised this, it would be pretty believable.
Lin Yu-Ting has had an even less impressive career. Had no issues until last year.
If the IBA really did test for testosterone and not actually do genetic testing, their already tattered reputation will be irreparable.
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They have dicks and balls. End of story.
https://vigilantnews.com/post/megyn-...boxing-fiasco/
I just knew Mr Gristle would step to the plate and try to spin it.
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08-02-2024, 08:37 PM
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Pretty sure I said let's see how it plays out.
She got a silver in 2022 in the IBA World Boxing Championship. Passed there.
In 2023 she makes the gold medal round and was disqualified. Reports indicated her testosterone levels were too high and gave her an unfair advantage. But elsewhere say they didn't do a testosterone test. They indicate elsewhere that a DNA test was done but don't disclose the testing methodology.
You're a conspiracy theorist to the extreme, but you don't see ANY issues here?
Or have you seen the dicks and balls?
Do you know any female athletes with PCOS?
I'm simply waiting to see more and explaining why. Sorry I'm not falling into your preferred snap-judgement groupthink mob because I want more info to explain away some doubts.
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08-02-2024, 08:58 PM
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Pretty sure I said let's see how it plays out.
She got a silver in 2022 in the IBA World Boxing Championship. Passed there.
In 2023 she makes the gold medal round and was disqualified. Reports indicated her testosterone levels were too high and gave her an unfair advantage. But elsewhere say they didn't do a testosterone test. They indicate elsewhere that a DNA test was done but don't disclose the testing methodology.
You're a conspiracy theorist to the extreme, but you don't see ANY issues here?
Or have you seen the dicks and balls?
Do you know any female athletes with PCOS?
I'm simply waiting to see more and explaining why. Sorry I'm not falling into your preferred snap-judgement groupthink mob because I want more info to explain away some doubts.
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If you can’t discern facial features, long defined bicep muscles, there’s no helping you. Thanks for playing Mr Gristle.
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08-02-2024, 09:02 PM
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I see.
Nicole Bass (Fuchs)
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08-02-2024, 09:09 PM
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I see.
Nicole Bass (Fuchs)
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Steroids and testosterone. DUH. Her clit is bigger than most dicks. But her biceps are bulky, not long, lean and defined. Like guys who don’t lift weights and take steroid cycles. DUH.
Enough of your twaddle Mr Gristle. I’ve entertained you too much already.
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08-02-2024, 09:17 PM
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PCOS?
Other forms of hyperandrogenism?
Do you know what testing the IBA used in 2023?
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08-02-2024, 09:23 PM
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PCOS?
Other forms of hyperandrogenism?
Do you know what testing the IBA used in 2023?
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https://x.com/sarahpperry/status/181...0AMolspcYxY9QA
I’ll drop the mic right here.
As always, thanks for playing
Goodnight Mr Gristle
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08-02-2024, 09:26 PM
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Show the testing.
Glad you brought up intersex, though.
AIS? Swyer Syndrome?
What testing has been performed on them since 2018? What was different about 2023?
It's OK to admit you have no actual idea what's going on and are just lashing out based on feels, perception and your conscious and unconscious biases.
I'm content to wait for more info. I don't even care if you're ultimately right and get there the wrong way.
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08-03-2024, 08:24 AM
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“ This isn't about "thinking differently" or "bigotry" or whatever newspeak is circulating. It's about science, consistency, and the rule law.
It's also about women not being hit in the face by men.”
I’m right and I got there the right way.
“Hungarian Boxing Association calls on the IOC to reconsider allowing biologically male Algerian boxer Imane Khelif, to compete against female Hungarian boxer Anna Luca Hamori on Saturday at the Paris Olympics.
The association is exploring the possibility of legally challenging Khelif’s prescence in the women’s boxing at the Olympics.
Additionally The Hungarian Olympic Committee has been in talks with the IOC to protect “the right of female competitors to equal opportunities and fair competition”.
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08-03-2024, 09:56 AM
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None of that is a confirmed test with a transparent methodology, Bam.
It also shows you're not able to go deeper than the surface level that strokes your confirmation bias.
What testing has been done so far? What testing was done in 2023 and how was it different? Was any testing done in 2024?
They've been competing since 2018. That's important.
What testing needs to be implemented? What are the criteria and methodologies?
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08-03-2024, 11:22 AM
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It's OK to admit you have no actual idea what's going on and are just lashing out based on feels, perception and your conscious and unconscious biases.
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That pretty much sums up their entire game. Especially their politics.
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08-03-2024, 01:34 PM
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That pretty much sums up their entire game. Especially their politics.
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Do you punch women Tommy? Is that your politics? It’s a simple as that.
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08-03-2024, 01:36 PM
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Do you punch women Tommy? Is that your politics? It’s a simple as that.
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Huh?
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08-03-2024, 02:26 PM
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Huh?
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The threads about men in female boxing. DUH. Do you approve of this? The left is pushing Trannys in women’s sports. Is that your politics Tommy? It’s not coming from the right.
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