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WTF · 03-05-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

I didnt say he was responsible. I realized reading is a newly acquired skill for you WTF, but did you notice the word "indirect cause". Actions have consequences. Butterflys flap their wings and tornadoes start in South America.

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He was about as responsible as a God Damn butterfly flapping his (and her wings for the equal right PC folks!) wings is responsible for the meltdown! LOL I can live with that.

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

Spitzer was very well known for making charges on the 6 o'clock news that he couldn't back up in court. He was a bully of the first order and got what he deserved.

I originally said he took on some powerful people. There was big money involved there. People get killed for way less.

He is on the Dylan Radigan show. Smart guy. Getting caught with your pants down is no big deal to me.

pjorourke · 03-05-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Getting caught with your pants down is no big deal to me.

Nor to me. The bid deal is the shit that Sarcasto mentioned: http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=156939&postcount=15

When you have a self-serving asshole like that in a powerful office, anyway you get him the hell out of there is fine with me.

pjorourke · 03-05-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF

I originally said he took on some powerful people.

So what? The fact that they were powerful doesn't mean they were corrupt or that he was right - see my comments re Greenberg.

Rudyard K · 03-05-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovely Victoria

Almost two of years after Spitzer went from the governor of New York to Client Number 9 clad in black socks, Spitzer answers why he didn't simply have an affair in an interviw with the Time Magazine.

Asked why he didn't simply have an affair, he said, "I know this is parsing it very thin, but the emotional component would have in some ways been a worse violation." In other words, he might still be governor, but he probably wouldn't be married.

Do you think Spitzer got it right?

Putting aside whether he is a prick...deserved it...people like him or his actions...etc.

Did he get it right? I think Yes. The empotional component of an "affair" would have been harder to overcome with his spouse than the percieved non-emotional component of P4P. How much harder? I don't know. But harder.

That was...I think...LV's question.

pjorourke · 03-05-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudyard K

That was...I think...LV's question.

Suddenly you are "Mr. Stay on Topic"?

atlcomedy · 03-05-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudyard K

Putting aside whether he is a prick...deserved it...people like him or his actions...etc.

Did he get it right? I think Yes. The empotional component of an "affair" would have been harder to overcome with his spouse than the percieved non-emotional component of P4P. How much harder? I don't know. But harder.

That was...I think...LV's question.

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Originally Posted by atlcomedy

He didn't get it right. If he did he wouldn't have gotten caught.

But he does have a point.

That said, since he's a politician, I assume he's rationalizing whatever situation he is in & doubt his conviction & sincerity

I agree and said as much in my earlier response, but pose the additional question: Was that what the bastard thinking when he decided to go the p4p route over a traditional affair? Tuly considering which was better for his marriage; or like the slimey politician he is, is he just trying to rationalize (spin) his behavior after the fact?

WTF · 03-05-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

Suddenly you are "Mr. Stay on Topic"?

LOL

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Originally Posted by pjorourke

So what? The fact that they were powerful doesn't mean they were corrupt or that he was right - see my comments re Greenberg.

I didn't say they were corrupt. Or that he was right. I said he took on some powerful people. Thus that can get those powerful people to push back. That is what I think happened to Elliot.

Look who needs to start taking a closer look at what was said. lol

WTF · 03-05-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudyard K

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Did he get it right? I think Yes. The empotional component of an "affair" would have been harder to overcome with his spouse than the percieved non-emotional component of P4P. How much harder? I don't know. But harder.

That was...I think...LV's question.

I agree with that. I have no way to measure his intentions. One is less emotional than the other and I would think easier to justify to a spouse.

nevergaveitathought · 03-05-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast Gunn

Eliot Spitzer paid a very high price for his sexual dalliance.

I think in a distant future people will learn to separate the job a public official is doing from his private life.

By way of comparison, look at the mess that Bush left us with. He didn't have an illicit affair, but he screwed up the country royally instead and we just gritted our teeth and let him serve out his term.

Spitzer was doing a much better job for New York than Bush was for the country, but Spitzer understood the brutal rules of the political game and he stepped away gracefully and quickly.

Personally, I admire him for that.

the problem was..he was a self righteous guardian of the law as attorney general..pinning raps on people for politcal motivations...while breaking laws himself..so its hard to feel for him much less admire him

guest051510-1 · 03-05-2010, 12:31 PM

Well, if he had had an affair instead of P4P, he might have found his "soul mate" and ran off to Argentina.

pjorourke · 03-05-2010, 12:40 PM

But that would have destroyed his political career.

I can't believe that shit Spitzer actually has the balls to try and come back. Does he think we are totally clueless and dont realize what a sanctimonious prick he is? Well, maybe NYers are that clueless -- they went big time for Obama's bullshit.

WTF · 03-05-2010, 12:46 PM

Be the best ten minute's of your life PJ. Spitzer and you agree on 99% of the solutions.

He sounds just like you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ll9...eature=related

pjorourke · 03-05-2010, 02:42 PM

We agree on very little. This nitwit is talking about reviving the damn car business instead of the stimulus. Why not just burn the money -- we'd at lease get heat from it.

Iaintliein · 03-05-2010, 04:53 PM

The two are not alternate solutions to the same problem. I think he is correct that an affair would have been more damaging to his wife, he needed sex, not romance, emotional companionship etc.

Regardless of his other actions, in this case he chose the correct option, just the wrong place to exercise it.

Regards,

tylorblake · 03-05-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Ten thousand is not a large sum of money. All were under that amount. It was HIS money btw. Not the state.

Somehow, I bet wifey believes its "THEIR" money