Covid Vaccines

[Devo]

What I loved were the local Democrapic Facebook pages, where everybody refused to take the Trump Vaccine, but, when Biden took office, they all jumped on the wagon to get it because Alzheimers Joe told them too.

If any of you watched Tucker, you'd have already heard some of this stuff years ago.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

This isn't the convo I suggested we have and I don't agree with your sunk premises, so I won't be participating.

Take that as you usually do.

I don't like your facts, so, I'll take my ball and go home.

You know, life isn't always full of converstaions you want to have.

[HDGristle]

Never has been and never will be full of those chats. And it's not about liking or not liking facts, Devo. I don't agree with the premise and it's not the discussion I offered to have or feel particularly compelled to have so I won't.

Enjoy your evening.

[Jacuzzme]

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Devo

I don't like your facts, so, I'll take my ball and go home.

Exactly Devo, exactly

Several of those on the left were falsely claiming that Tucker and medical doctors and other experts were only censored because they spread false information about covid vaccines.

Since that thread was head off topic, I started this one so those who believe the vaccine is 100% safe and effective can provide documentation backing up their claims

And others can provide data refuting those claims which I did

It is pretty telling that not one of them has provided any legitimate data proving the vaccine is 100% safe and effective. It's like they know they were wrong to make the claims they did in the other thread so they just want to ignore it now

[AmishGangster]

Haha thats going to be my new go to phrase.

And the award for the most Oliver North response of 2023 goes to

“Thats not the conversation I offered so I don’t feel compelled to participate”

[HDGristle]

Glad you like it, AG.

Btw, if you check the other thread there are exactly zero references to the words "safe" and "effective" let alone 100% safe and effective. This is the exact type of contrived binary and sunk premise that I called out over there.

Whether there was or wasn't is still part of an ongoing debate, which even you have to admit. The true effects of COVID and the vaccines are still being assessed and we'll see new science and conclusions over time as more research is done. That's an ongoing conversation to be had, berry, despite your already drawn conclusion.

We can have it in another thread if you'd like.

As for your need to try to paint people into corners, please stop wasting your time. Pointing out that there are limitations and room for discussion or even room for nuance doesn't need to travel down your hastily constructed slippery slope.

Hasn't Tucker decried the need of the left to oversimplify and create binary options to isolate and vilify the right? He has. So has Ben Shapiro. Are they wrong that those tactics are wrong? (This is rhetorical)

https://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=40

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Btw, if you check the other thread there are exactly zero references to the words "safe" and "effective" let alone 100% safe and effective.

Nice try to deflect and obfuscate the issue.

First not everything is about you. There were numerous leftists on that thread who supported trampling American's first amendment rights and trampling the freedom of the press because they spread false information about covid vaccines.

The only information Tucker and various medical professionals spread that was censored was in essence, that the vaccine was not 100% safe and effective.

So here is their and your chance to prove it is 100% safe and effective. Otherwise the claims that Senile Biden was right to violate the first amendment and trample the rights of Americans was all false

[Charley3]

Literally every person that I know personally that had to be hospitalized or worse(one death) was either old, fat or didn’t want the jab (or all three).
If you don’t want the vaccine, don’t get it, but whatever you do, don’t trust “data” on a hooker board. Lol
So in short….you do you.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Charley3

If you don’t want the vaccine, don’t get it

And I never said otherwise. I actually agree with your statement

That is the whole point of why Senile Biden having the government trample first amendment rights and censor Tucker Carlson and medical professionals who shared negative opinions / facts about the vaccine was 100% wrong and illegal

If you want the vaccine, get it. If you don't want it, don't get it.

Do your own research. Take into account all the data from both sides and decide instead of trying to have the government dictate what you have to do and decide what information you are allowed to see and say

[berryberry]

Ho hum, just more evidence proving the leftists were wrong

Just days after Marjorie Greene announced Congress would start investigating strokes from the Covid vaccine, the CDC announces its own investigation 2 days later.

BREAKING: CDC to Investigate Link Between Strokes & COVID-19 Vaccines

"The CDC is now saying there have been enough cases of people who have received the vaccine and then suffered a stroke"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1613992087782887443

[Devo]

And then there is this.

Inflating the death numbers to encourage vaxes?

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-lea...alf-years-late

[berryberry]

CNN reports that bivalent booster INCREASES your risk of getting COVID (1.9% vs. 3.2%). You can't make this stuff up.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/healt...ncy/index.html

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by Devo

What I loved were the local Democrapic Facebook pages, where everybody refused to take the Trump Vaccine, but, when Biden took office, they all jumped on the wagon to get it because Alzheimers Joe told them too.

If any of you watched Tucker, you'd have already heard some of this stuff years ago.

Yes. This was bullshit. And the right played politics as well. That’s something I resent. At the very least it would be nice to gain data for future epidemics, but that can’t even be trusted. Covid-19 should not have been politicized.

[Loganstryfe]

I never chime in on these political discussions on a hooker board but… i got the first 2 jabs fresh off the fedex freezer trucks. I was influenced by the media when these came out I will admit. And a coworker told me i was doing it for the good of others. Yes I admit I was naive. But the jab was safe for me. Never had any side effects and has been almost 2 years since i got it. I didn’t get booster after booster because i found it to be horseshit that i have to get another injection every 2, 3, 6 months or whatever the time frame is. But to the topic at hand it was safe for me. And i have never had covid, i have tested a bunch of times when I have been sick.