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09-04-2023, 09:54 PM
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Calling someone a fascist by literal definition means you are a radical leftist. Case closed.
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09-04-2023, 10:44 PM
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Calling someone a fascist by literal definition means you are a radical leftist. Case closed.
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Huh? How about if someone is an actual fascist? Is simply acknowledging that reality a radical act?
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09-05-2023, 07:31 AM
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Calling someone a fascist by literal definition means you are a radical leftist. Case closed.
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This isn’t the “gotcha” you think because I’m literally a radical leftist. What I’m not is a democrat. I am very clear about what my ideology is and isn’t.
I think it’s interesting that people have gotten so angry that I mentioned fascism when much of contemporary American conservative shares the core principles of fascism.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
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Although fascism is a notoriously difficult ideology to define, many 20th-century fascist movements shared several characteristics. First, these movements sourced their political strength from populations experiencing economic woes, real or imagined. Fascists tended to capitalize on these economic anxieties by shifting the blame away from government or market forces. Jews, immigrants, leftists, and other groups became useful scapegoats. Redirecting popular anger toward these people would, in theory, rid a country of its ailments.
To unify a country, fascist movements propagated extreme nationalism that often went hand in hand with militarism and racial purity. The prosperity of a nation depended on a unified polity that put the group’s welfare above the individual’s. A strong, vigilant military was considered necessary to defend these group interests. And for some fascists “the group” was defined not by territorial boundaries but by racial identity. Nazism constituted the most insidious form of racial-purist fascist nationalism.
Fascist movements of the 20th century also frequently lambasted liberalism for its alleged role in sowing political disunity and moral degeneracy. Although many fascist movements initially organized themselves around democratic institutions for political legitimacy, they resorted to totalitarianism in practice. A component of this process became the reorganization of society around a strict moral code that often sought to reverse the “decadence” of pre-fascist culture.
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I don’t think it’s a personal insult to accurately label someone’s ideology.
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09-05-2023, 09:37 AM
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What some of these Republicans are trying to do today is absolutely fascism. It's up to America to put a stop to it. Freedom isn't free. All enemies, foreign and domestic, must be dealt with.
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09-05-2023, 11:37 AM
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What some of these Republicans are trying to do today is absolutely fascism. It's up to America to put a stop to it. Freedom isn't free. All enemies, foreign and domestic, must be dealt with.
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Oh?
Tell us more?
How exactly do you plan to go about that?
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09-05-2023, 11:58 AM
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I'm not offended by being called a fascist. I think it's a ridiculous accusation and quite typical coming from a white liberal elitist.
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09-05-2023, 12:44 PM
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Oh?
Tell us more?
How exactly do you plan to go about that?
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Are you denying that by the definition of Fascism isn't applicable as Tommy suggested, or were you more interested in the HOW that R's would be held accountable?
Bullets aside, there are many ways that society holds ppl accountable. It's odd to me that many on the right are looking forward to the reckoning and second civil war; but I'd say there are MANY LAWS that will not allow that to occur. Specifically the bill of rights, etc.
Holding ppl accountable isn't all that hard in a lawful world. Some attorney squirm might happen, but generally speaking, there is interest in making sure ppl who break the law, are accountable.
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09-05-2023, 03:54 PM
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What Senile Biden and many of his fellow leftists are doing today is absolutely fascism. It's up to America to put a stop to it. Freedom isn't free. All enemies, foreign and domestic, must be dealt with.
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Fixed it for you
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09-05-2023, 04:26 PM
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Oh I get it now.
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09-05-2023, 07:04 PM
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Are you denying that by the definition of Fascism isn't applicable as Tommy suggested, or were you more interested in the HOW that R's would be held accountable?
Bullets aside, there are many ways that society holds ppl accountable. It's odd to me that many on the right are looking forward to the reckoning and second civil war; but I'd say there are MANY LAWS that will not allow that to occur. Specifically the bill of rights, etc.
Holding ppl accountable isn't all that hard in a lawful world. Some attorney squirm might happen, but generally speaking, there is interest in making sure ppl who break the law, are accountable.
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Do you need to explain shit to him?
Let him answer, I want to know what the plan is, send in the National Guard, or the real military to take care of all of us seditious assholes?
Who exactly is going to do what to the right?
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09-05-2023, 07:04 PM
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And the 2nd Civil war is already happening, what they are doing to Trump is further proof.
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09-05-2023, 07:10 PM
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Oh?
Tell us more?
How exactly do you plan to go about that?
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Here's a good example of what to do with wannabe fascists:
https://www.npr.org/2023/09/05/11972...jan-6-sentence
It's as simple as that. We are still a nation of laws, believe it or not. Something these MAGA scum are finally beginning to learn. trump is a lifetime piece of shit criminal who is finally getting his comeuppance. And it will all be in the history books.
This silly, little MAGA movement will be in dust bin shortly. Then trump disappears for good.
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09-05-2023, 11:41 PM
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So you just confirmed that Senile Biden and the leftists are fascists. CONFIRMED !!!
Only under fascist rule from Senile Biden and his thugs in the DOJ does something like this happen
We are witnessing a communist takeover of our judicial system by the degenerates on the left to target political enemies and destroy their lives. It’s despicable.
But America's eyes are open which is why with each growing day President Trump's support grows. And when President Trump gets back in office, I surely hope the gloves will be off and he declares their corruption of the last several years a national emergency, firing every single member who participated, executing mass arrests of DC bureaucrats, judges and members of the media, and show them that America does not stand for the Democrats fascist rule
And yeah, some may say wouldn't that be somewhat fascist too. At this point the only way you fight the left's fascism is by giving them a painful dose of what they have wrought
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09-06-2023, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by berryberry
So you just confirmed that Senile Biden and the leftists are fascists. CONFIRMED !!!
Only under fascist rule from Senile Biden and his thugs in the DOJ does something like this happen
We are witnessing a communist takeover of our judicial system by the degenerates on the left to target political enemies and destroy their lives. It’s despicable.
But America's eyes are open which is why with each growing day President Trump's support grows. And when President Trump gets back in office, I surely hope the gloves will be off and he declares their corruption of the last several years a national emergency, firing every single member who participated, executing mass arrests of DC bureaucrats, judges and members of the media, and show them that America does not stand for the Democrats fascist rule
And yeah, some may say wouldn't that be somewhat fascist too. At this point the only way you fight the left's fascism is by giving them a painful dose of what they have wrought
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Not only is this WILDLY off topic, but it’s nonsensical. You called the democrats fascists and communists within one sentence of each other.
The supposed“ takeover of our judicial system” has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. The prosecution of President Trump, and his level of support has nothing to do with the topic at hand. There any number of low quality, fact free junk threads you can post in. Please let us have a reasonable conversation here.
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09-06-2023, 02:53 PM
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Not only is this WILDLY off topic
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No it is not. My post directly addressed at least 6 previous posts in this thread all on the same subject of my post. If you have a problem, you should address them, not me.
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