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06-05-2015, 02:53 AM
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I have taken many ladies to lunch, dinners, movies, and even the casino without paying a dime. You just gotta build a good rapport with the lady IMO.
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06-05-2015, 04:51 AM
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I don't think many ladies are will to go a dinner date free of charge. Some people tend to forget get this is still a business for us ladies. Our time is valuable and the time that's taken sitting with someone eating free of charge can mean missing a potential client that values and respects our time.
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Eating and talking is part of ur business ? At $$-$$$$ per hour??? Shit, I just go find me a nice looking shrink, lawyer, architect or whoever and it will come out cheaper.... missing a potential biz??? R u really f*ing 24/7 at $$-$$$& an hr??? I just don't understand some ladies really thinking $$-$$$$ hr for diner really justify....but I am sure there are some fool or stupid rich that will pay that....good luck finding one... If ur having diner with fool, u still don't deserve $$/hr because that's way beyond real professional (doctor, lawyer, shrink) rate. Some ladies think they can fool someone charging crazy diner rate. You are only fooling urself.
Oh, one more... There is an agency in NY (never used it). It is non-illegal strictly partner diner or party... There hourly rate was $50-$90//hr (no sex, not even kissing allowed) and these are real professional hot looking men&women. I am sure they don't even charge ur rate today.....
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06-05-2015, 05:49 AM
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First the ladies are worth whatever they think they are worth. The only option we guys have is to purchase or not LOL.
I'm not one to pay fun time rates for time spent eating but if another guy want to that's his business. If I had a session and wanted to give a bonus by buying dinner for my friend ? Well that's just me being generous isn't it ?
The girls have to take care of business and frankly IOP could also be IOF so they expect to be paid for their time. Don't sweat it and if you can't afford it don't do it. As always if the phone stopped ringing the specials would come out. If business was really bad a free meal might have more appeal ! IJS.
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06-05-2015, 06:28 AM
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To answer the OP's question, I do not think there is a provider who has not seen you BCD at least a few times that will just go to dinner with you and that is it. If there are some providers that will, then they also would probably want to be compensated for their time as well, so that is where it may get tricky. But, it is at least worth a shot to ask as all they can do is say no as logically, it makes sense that all of them have to eat and surely would not mind dinner being bought for them, right?
It always feels good to have some eye candy that you can be seen with in public, but keep in mind, the hobby is not a dating service as most providers will have the mindset the poster in post #15 does. Also, personal feelings will more than likely come into play when it comes to the provider on her reviews, her posts, ect. and as well documented, that NEVER ends well, and eventually, it ALWAYS comes to an end.
Be careful what you wish for!
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06-05-2015, 08:52 AM
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Thank you for all the replies... some more then others. Maybe one day ill get a wild hair and ask one of you beautiful ladies to dinner.. Hell what guy doesn't want some nice arm candy and a beautiful face to look at while eating.
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06-05-2015, 09:16 AM
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...Hell what guy doesn't want some nice arm candy and a beautiful face to look at while eating.
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And you just proved the point of why we charge for it. You're benefiting from us being there. We should benefit too. And a free meal doesn't count. If it did then you could get a civi chick to go have dinner with you any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Maybe you can, but my guess is no since you're on here asking about it. We get paid to laugh and smile and look the part. Take a civi and you risk her being unhappy, bored, irritated, snobby, etc. Take (and pay for) an established professional and those ego-deflating moments won't happen. You get to enjoy a good meal with a beautiful woman who is into you.
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06-05-2015, 09:55 AM
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Don't sell yourself short bro, you can get that on your own. We all have something to offer, just learn how to work with what you have (comedy, confidence, etc.....). Most decent women would give you a chance if you be honest and tell her you just want to have a nice dinner and convo with a beautiful woman. Plus, you would enjoy it so much more when it's pure, honest, decent social interaction and not a "business deal". If you're talking about prospecting a lady for sex, sure by all means go with a provider and compensate her for her time. Remember however, it is definitely business and you shouldn't try to make it anything more.
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06-05-2015, 10:13 AM
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Darkey.. I agree with you..
THN... I disagree with you... But still find you sexy and hope to see u in future (guess no nice dinner/lunch before or after our session)
Damn, I am really getting into this subject and making enemies...
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06-05-2015, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eng
Darkey.. I agree with you..
THN... I disagree with you... But still find you sexy and hope to see u in future (guess no nice dinner/lunch before or after our session)
Damn, I am really getting into this subject and making enemies...
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You're only doing it to yourself with how you're trying to express your differing opinion. Give a response that shows logical thinking, intelligence, open-mindedness, etc. and maybe you'll get a provider who is eager to have you take her out (maybe she throws in the dinner date with the session); one that is wanting to show you why they have people willing to pay for just her company, her wit, and/or charm.
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06-05-2015, 11:07 AM
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Never eat and tell
I think the question is having an Off The Clock (OTC) dinner not connected to a session - or dinner and a session at the session rate...
Several of my rotation have gone to dinner OTC - sometimes even just totally a dinner OTC without an associated session.
Some are relentlessly true to the "time is money" mantra and I get it - but even the ones who will go OTC are hardly ever going to put that in an ad.
If you've seen them a few times, it wouldn't hurt to ask.
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06-05-2015, 11:12 AM
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Eating and talking is part of ur business ? At $$-$$$$ per hour???
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Actually, it is part of mine.
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Shit, I just go find me a nice looking shrink, lawyer, architect or whoever and it will come out cheaper...missing a potential biz??? R u really f*ing 24/7 at $$-$$$& an hr???
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Are shrinks shrinking 24/7? No. They're still not likely to accept a client who wants a discounted dinner date when they specialize in shrinking and they have clients who are paying them their full rate to shrink. A provider can provide full service, buy her own meal and still come out ahead. If either did accommodate you, it would, ultimately, benefit you more than it would them. And no one owes you. So, aside from your magnetic charm and piquant wit, how is your offer more attractive to either business person?
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I just don't understand some ladies really thinking $$-$$$$ hr for diner really justify....but I am sure there are some fool or stupid rich that will pay that....good luck finding one
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If you're sure that there are some that will pay that, why would we need luck finding one?
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If ur having diner with fool, u still don't deserve $$/hr because that's way beyond real professional (doctor, lawyer, shrink) rate. Some ladies think they can fool someone charging crazy diner rate. You are only fooling urself.
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If "fools" and "stupid rich" are paying that, clearly, we are not fooling ourselves.
BTW, when people resort to name calling, it's because they're more focused on ego than facts. It's so unbecoming.
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06-05-2015, 11:52 AM
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I was simply just asking a question im not looking for a date by any means.
Trust me i have a 19yo and a 23 yo for that anytime i want. And yes i still hobby from time to time not cause i cant get any i just like the rush of the unknown and a little strange every now and then.
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06-05-2015, 12:27 PM
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I think if you are booking a dinner date..........you have to be cognizant as that type of client that sex must not be the overall focal point. Id rather have sex at my best and not when I'm gorged. I rather have sex first, build an appetite securely, then eat after. Certainly will make the conversation flow better if y'all connected well beforehand. I also want the lady to relax and be more herself. Don't want her ordering just some inferior salad or light meal so she wll be fit to fight and hour or so later BCD back at the hotel. She's still expected to perform well right. No I want her to chow down and get what she wants. Nothing sexer than watch a sexy woman actually finish her food and not just pick at it.......wth occasional questionaire type banter.
Like I really enjoy multi-hour bookings.........but most dinner date rates suck. Especially ones where you eat for two hours, then have sex for one. To me a dinner date represents a time and vibe of a lady I may not be exposed to in the bedroom. Or a lady who has enamored me so much by arrivng to an appointment, taking me to my limits sexually, then being awe inspired to discover more about her through dnner after.
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06-05-2015, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 15, 2014
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First, you seems very educated or simply good writer.. U got my respect on that
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Actually, it is part of mine.
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Diner date at normal hobby rate? U should be rich by now.
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Originally Posted by Vivienne Rey
Are shrinks shrinking 24/7? No. They're still not likely to accept a client who wants a discounted dinner date when they specialize in shrinking and they have clients who are paying them their full rate to shrink. A provider can provide full service, buy her own meal and still come out ahead. If either did accommodate you, it would, ultimately, benefit you more than it would them. And no one owes you. So, aside from your magnetic charm and piquant wit, how is your offer more attractive to either business person?
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I don't know any shrink that charges ur rate for session. If there are any, they are making more than surgeon.
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If you're sure that there are some that will pay that, why would we need luck finding one?
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I do not know there are someone pay that rate but I understood as there are... maybe I mis-understood
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If "fools" and "stupid rich" are paying that, clearly, we are not fooling ourselves.
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You mean you are not fooling urself...
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BTW, when people resort to name calling, it's because they're more focused on ego than facts. It's so unbecoming.
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If my in-direct name calling offended anyone, my apology. But still fool to pay $$-$$$$ an hour for dinner.
I have asked dinner to providers (that I felt clicked or felt has exceptional personality), got y & n but never paid stupid rate. Alway take diner & conversation (even in session) as extra or non-biz arrangement. That is just me.
ok, I am done with is subj.
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06-05-2015, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by eng
Diner date at normal hobby rate? U should be rich by now.
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That wasn't the point, but why should I be rich? Because men are so inclined to not want sex when they're paying that kind of money?
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I don't know any shrink that charges ur rate for session. If there are any, they are making more than surgeon.
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Again, not the point.
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I do not know there are someone pay that rate but I understood as there are... maybe I mis-understood
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You didn't misunderstand. You made a statement that served your purpose, and then contradicted yourself.
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You mean you are not fooling urself...
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Shifting the focus from the fact that you contradicted yourself by correcting what doesn't need correcting is not helping your case. Again, your words.....if "fools" and "stupid rich" are paying that (and they are not just paying me), clearly, we are not fooling ourselves.
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If my in-direct name calling offended anyone, my apology. But still fool to pay $$-$$$$ an hour for dinner.
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Another contradiction. Nothing indirect or apologetic about it.
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I have asked dinner to providers (that I felt clicked or felt has exceptional personality), got y & n but never paid stupid rate. Alway take diner & conversation (even in session) as extra or non-biz arrangement. That is just me.
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No one should pay a stupid rate. That would be stupid.
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ok, I am done with is subj.
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Best you quit while you're behind.
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