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11-26-2017, 05:21 PM
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sleepy, I am trying to see your point...
But on the guy's side, if you are speaking from a local incall point of view, asking for a lady to send a guy a small deposit to ensure she will show up to an incall is not the same.
If the lady falls through, the guy is missing out on an appointment, not any money.
If a traveling lady gets cancelled on after PAYING for her room already, she is out money.
That is my point.
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Clients are out both time and money if they get cancelled on or no showed once they travel to see a provider. Gas isn't free. Neither is an uber or lyft if they go that route. If driving to an appointment doesn't cost any money, then why do providers have higher rates or ask extra for outcalls?
There is risk of lost time and money on both sides if they are cancelled on. It's not only on the provider's side.
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11-26-2017, 05:25 PM
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Gotcha.
It just seems like more if I'm paying a premium amount for a hotel (if you want to make sure you get one that isn't being watched). Perspective is reality as they say.
Personally I don't ask more for an outcall unless it's really far (over an hour basically), lots of tolls, or if there is valet.
I have a drop fee to use my incall, so I'm actually saving money to do an outcall.
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11-26-2017, 05:26 PM
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I’m reading on many escort handles on Twitter that upfront deposits are gaining popularity nationally in order to confirm an appt. I sure hope this trend doesn’t come to Dallas. Unless ur booking with a popular pornstar and using a 3rd-party booking agency, i don’t see why guys would agree to this.
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11-26-2017, 06:17 PM
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I did 2 day visit for 6hr each day he paid deposit in full before I left for my tour
felt like I was working for free lol but it paid for my whole tour and had money left over .. Now I have seen this gent a few times and he does 6hr every time .. for me I was not to worried he would flake out but having the deposit made me more at ease ..
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11-26-2017, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tntangie
sleepy, I am trying to see your point...
But on the guy's side, if you are speaking from a local incall point of view, asking for a lady to send a guy a small deposit to ensure she will show up to an incall is not the same.
If the lady falls through, the guy is missing out on an appointment, not any money.
If a traveling lady gets cancelled on after PAYING for her room already, she is out money.
That is my point.
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I see your point. It's not common and the idea of NO DEPOSITS is somewhat sacrosanct among hobbyists. Hobbyists have been burned, providers have been burned and everyone is trying to protect their interests. Understood.
That being said, if I wanted to see an established, well-respected provider and she kindly requested a deposit of $20 to $50 for the reasons you stated, I would not let that interfere with the session.
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11-26-2017, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tntangie
If a traveling lady gets cancelled on after PAYING for her room already, she is out money.
That is my point.
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It's the risk/cost of doing business, if you're worried about out of town cancellations, don't travel.
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11-26-2017, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tntangie
sleepy, I am trying to see your point...
But on the guy's side, if you are speaking from a local incall point of view, asking for a lady to send a guy a small deposit to ensure she will show up to an incall is not the same.
If the lady falls through, the guy is missing out on an appointment, not any money.
If a traveling lady gets cancelled on after PAYING for her room already, she is out money.
That is my point.
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Hmmm...missing out on a nut and cheating on wifey vs missing out on bills.
HIS nut is SOOOO much more valuable. Deposits are certainly appropriate for the sake of his nut.
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11-27-2017, 09:15 AM
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No, and NOOOOOO , With all the no shows and unreliable providers what could go wrong ( just my opinion)
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11-27-2017, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FLReWrite
I see your point. It's not common and the idea of NO DEPOSITS is somewhat sacrosanct among hobbyists. Hobbyists have been burned, providers have been burned and everyone is trying to protect their interests. Understood.
That being said, if I wanted to see an established, well-respected provider and she kindly requested a deposit of $20 to $50 for the reasons you stated, I would not let that interfere with the session.
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You are among the few.
When a solid businesswoman ask for a deposit, and you want to see her, you will give her the deposit.
If you won't, you probably aren't the type she wants to spend time with anyways.
I would think we should see this as a woman taking her business seriously and that the risk of NCNS would be drastically lowered.
This is a meeting of trust. Someone, on either side, has to budge a little for there ever to be a connection. Sometimes it is the girl, sometimes it is the guy.
BTW- I accept deposits. Haven't had an issue yet.
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11-27-2017, 03:26 PM
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I'll request sessions and pay at a later time, same thing as paying up front for services not provided.
It seems like their "type of men" are a bunch of idiots willing to pre-pay and hope you get a quality session if any, after money has been spent. Plenty of scams going on around here when it comes to pre-paying for something
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11-27-2017, 05:51 PM
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You go with the norm. Deposit for a visiting porn star? In a second. Deposit for some girl that’s hitting up the ISOs or advertising here every week? Fat chance.
Thumb through a the last dozen pages of alerts and see how well deposits work out for the guys. Granted I’m sure there are many that go well but it’s enough of an occurrence that the girl skips there’s no way I’d play that game.
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11-27-2017, 06:04 PM
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What we need is an adult escrow service, where providers and clients can both place a deposit, to be surrendered upon cancellation /no show.
Someone besides me, go make it
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11-27-2017, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Ze~
When a solid businesswoman ask for a deposit, and you want to see her, you will give her the deposit.
If you won't, you probably aren't the type she wants to spend time with anyways.
I would think we should see this as a woman taking her business seriously and that the risk of NCNS would be drastically lowered.
This is a meeting of trust. Someone, on either side, has to budge a little for there ever to be a connection. Sometimes it is the girl, sometimes it is the guy.
BTW- I accept deposits. Haven't had an issue yet.
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Very well stated.
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Originally Posted by TheEccie214
You go with the norm. Deposit for a visiting porn star? In a second. Deposit for some girl that’s hitting up the ISOs or advertising here every week? Fat chance.
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I'm trying to not take your comment personally because I do advertise every week and browse the ISO's (to see if I might fit what a guy is looking for) and do hit up chat to drum up biz because that is what I am doing at this time.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. That is what this board is for. It's a hobby community with areas for doing those exact things. I used to be able to just participate in co-ed and get business just from that.
However the state of this board has totally gone to shit. The old timers do not participate like they used to and the quality of post and people who are posting is crap lately.
I would come home and look forward to seeing what was being talked about in co-ed that day but now it is just a drag.
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11-27-2017, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEccie214
Granted I’m sure there are many that go well ...
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Plenty go just fine.
The issue is that none of those ever get reported in public because too many asshole trolls would rip the guy to shreds calling him an "idiot".
I can't tell you how many trips I've been on, internationally too, requiring a significant amount of cash to be transferred before hand, that have gone off without a hitch. I wish I could name names... but that is not how this lifestyle works.
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11-28-2017, 01:02 PM
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Location: Dallas TX
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Originally Posted by randell
What we need is an adult escrow service, where providers and clients can both place a deposit, to be surrendered upon cancellation /no show.
Someone besides me, go make it
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Escrow service for adults? We need less begging going on here, notice how the top providers don't post here or be begging for money up front
Some of these providers fail to understand that every business has risk, they want 0 chance to lose and always to win, I wish life was that easy.
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