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Old 01-23-2020, 11:58 AM   #16
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Gave me goosebumps and tingles up my leg watching his Senate trial performance the last 2 days.

I didnt know he was this fucking brilliant of a strategist, litigator, and orator. He has commanded the attention of the Senate and the World. He's embarrassed Trump's lawyers made their case and law degrees look like shit. Its clear they're out of their leagues. Schiff has successfully reached the independent voters and swing states with FACT AFTER FACT in a compelling and devastating way with evidence.

What a masterful performance. I couldnt be more proud with this group that Nancy Pelosi put together. They made the Republican senators assholes squeamish. It was fucking awesome to watch.

Schiff is almost as good at spinning a yarn as that other hero of the Left, Michael Avenatti.
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Because if there’s one thing that comes through in the report from Obama-appointed Department of Justice Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz, and from his testimony on Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, it is this:


Schiff is a dissembler, a prevaricator, a distortionist, a spreader of falsehoods. In Chicago we use the short word: liar.


It was Schiff who insisted all along that FBI and Department of Justice officials did not abuse the FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) courts or hide information from judges.


But according to Horowitz, that’s what the FBI did.


The “DOJ met the rigor, transparency and evidentiary basis needed to meet FISA's probable cause requirement,” insisted Schiff, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, in a 2018 memo that should be carved in marble.


But the FBI didn’t meet those rigorous standards. It didn’t offer transparency. Officials hid evidence from the court, or fabricated evidence to get what it wanted.


It was Schiff who insisted that the FBI didn’t heavily rely on the so-called Steele dossier, the salacious Democratic Party-paid-for oppo research against Trump.


But Horowitz shows that the FBI relied heavily relied on the salacious dossier — and even made up evidence to keep the dossier useful before the courts, though key officials knew that what was in it wasn’t true.


We now know from the Horowitz report that the dossier played a “central and essential role” in obtaining warrants to spy on the 2016 Trump campaign.


We also know that Schiff lied to the public about what had happened, as his media handmaidens protected him and trashed his fellow House Intelligence Committee member, U.S. Rep. Devin Nunes, a California Republican, who tried to warn the country of the FISA abuse.


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Lies, leaks and half-truths: Schiff's credibility crumbling amid impeachment push

Rep. Adam B. Schiff, who is leading the closed-door impeachment inquiry, has left a trail of anti-Trump allegations that remain unproven or conflict with the official record, an analysis shows.


The California Democrat once insinuated that a blocked call on Donald Trump Jr.’s cellphone was to tell his father about an upcoming meeting with a Russian lawyer.


It turned out that the call was to a business associate.


Adam Schiff is basically the Jussie Smollett of Congress on steroids,”


That is just one example. A Washington Times review of Mr. Schiff’s comments on Russia and impeachment found multiple embellishments, half-truths and factual misstatements.


The renewed focus on Mr. Schiff’s truth record comes as the Democratic leader, in making the case for impeachment, has put words in the commander in chief’s mouth that President Trump never uttered. A comparison of the congressman’s statements to special counsel Robert Mueller’s report finished in March raises concerns about Mr. Schiff’s credibility.


Adam Schiff lied about having quote-unquote stone-cold evidence about Russia collusion,” White House spokesman Hogan Gridley told Fox News.
Mr. Schiff’s most recent allegation had even some normally loyal pundits criticizing him.


At a Sept. 26 nationally televised hearing, Mr. Schiff said Mr. Trump requested that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky fabricate evidence against former Vice President Joseph R. Biden. In other words, Mr. Trump was asking Mr. Zelensky to commit a felony.


Such a request isn’t in the transcript of the July phone call. Challenged by Republicans, Mr. Schiff defended his version of the call as his own personal “parody.”
After two days of taking heat, the California Democrat shifted his defense, tweeting that the unidentified anti-Trump whistleblower “confirmed” the quote. He didn’t explain where. It isn’t in the nine-page complaint against Mr. Trump that the whistleblower, a CIA analyst and Democrat, sent the House and Senate intelligence committees.


Republicans also accuse Mr. Schiff of lying about when he or his staff had contact with the whistleblower. At first, the congressman said there was no contact. Now it turns out that the person consulted with committee Democrats.


“You know what else Adam Schiff has been saying to you and the American public that was not true?” said Rep. Lee M. Zeldin, New York Republican. “That he had no contact with the whistleblower — he’d like to, but he didn’t have any contact. He lied.”


There are other examples of Mr. Schiff’s dubious assertions since early 2017. The trail starts with the infamous dossier.


The Steele dossier
At a March 2017 hearing with FBI Director James B. Comey at the witness table, Mr. Schiff repeatedly cited the discredited Christopher Steele dossier. He gave credence to a list of unverified felony charges against Mr. Trump. The allegations came straight from the Kremlin, creating the irony of Mr. Schiff using Moscow’s election-year allegations against Mr. Trump to investigate the Russians’ own U.S. election meddling.


Since that hearing, Republicans forced the disclosure that it was Mr. Schiff’s party that funded Mr. Steele. None of his 13 separate conspiracy allegations proved true. Mueller found no Trump conspiracy in his report. Mr. Schiff fought efforts to find out who funded the dossier and how the FBI used it to target Mr. Trump.


Secret was no secret
Mr. Schiff said Mr. Steele correctly predicted that energy company Rosneft would sell a 19% stake to a private investor. The charge was aimed at buttressing Mr. Steele’s allegations against Trump volunteer Carter Page.


“Is it a coincidence that the Russian gas company, Rosneft, sold a 19% share after former British intelligence officer Mr. Steele was told by Russian sources that Carter Page was offered fees on a deal of just that size?” Mr. Schiff said at the hearing.


In fact, an internet search shows the news media reported on the 19% stake weeks before Mr. Steele wrote that particular dossier memo.


Misleading a judge
In 2018, Rep. Devin Nunes, California Republican and then-chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, issued a report on how the FBI used the dossier to persuade a judge to approve a year’s worth of wiretaps on Mr. Page. Mr. Schiff issued a countermemo that the established press accepted, labeling Mr. Nunes’ paper “debunked.”


But Mr. Schiff was wrong on a number of points.


He wrote that Bruce Ohr, then a top Justice Department official, didn’t go to the FBI with dossier dirt until November 2016, so it would be impossible for him to have influence on the wiretaps application in October.


In fact, Mr. Ohr began feeding dossier information in August 2016, starting with Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and reaching deep inside the Justice Department. He talked directly to agent Peter Strzok, the man heading the Trump investigation who held great animus toward the president.


Mr. Schiff said the Nunes report “mischaracterizes Bruce Ohr’s role, overstates the significance of his interactions with Steele.”


In fact, Mr. Ohr, as associate deputy attorney general, the No. 4 position, played a critical role in repeatedly ferrying Mr. Steele’s allegations to the Obama administration and continued talking to him well into 2017. Mr. Ohr’s wife worked at Fusion GPS, Mr. Steele’s handler. Mr. Ohr provided the FBI all of her anti-Trump research as well.


Axes to grind
Mr. Schiff said the FBI notified judges of the dossier’s partisan nature by writing, in a footnote in the application, that the FBI “speculates” that it came from a person who wanted to harm Mr. Trump.


In fact, the FBI knew far more. Mr. Ohr told the bureau that Fusion worked for the Hillary Clinton effort and told Mr. McCabe that Mr. Steele was “desperate” to destroy candidate Trump.


Mr. Schiff said the FBI “independently corroborated” Mr. Steele’s allegations that Mr. Page, while on a public trip to Moscow in July 2016, secretly discussed bribes for sanctions relief.


In fact, the FBI didn’t confirm this, according to the Mueller report.


“The investigation did not establish that Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election,” the report said.
In November 2016, an internal FBI report graded the dossier as only “minimally corroborated.”


No corroboration
Mr. Schiff said the FBI didn’t cite a Yahoo News story as dossier corroboration to a judge. He said the FBI included it in the application to show Mr. Page’s denial.


In fact, when Mr. Nunes eventually obtained a declassified wiretap application, it clearly showed the article was meant as corroboration. The FBI stated that the Yahoo story didn’t come from the same source — Mr. Steele — because the former British spy told agents he didn’t talk to reporters. Mr. Steele had spoken to the Yahoo reporter who based the story on him. There was no corroboration for the judge.


Leaks by the number
Mr. Schiff’s Democrats have leaked several erroneous anti-Trump stories that garnered big liberal media play.
Leak 1: Donald Trump Jr. testified to the House intelligence committee on Dec. 7, 2017. Almost immediately, CNN reported that he received a heads-up from WikiLeaks that it planned to release more stolen Democratic Party emails. Thus, evidence of collusion.


The story was wrong. The email Mr. Trump Jr. provided the committee showed the unsolicited WikiLeaks message came the day after the release. The CNN story stayed uncorrected for hours.


Leak 2: Democrats leaked misleading Facebook numbers for Russian-bought ads, showing they supposedly targeted Michigan, Wisconsin and other swing states.
Republicans released numbers that showed deep-blue Maryland displayed more Russia ads than Wisconsin, 262 to 55.


Leak 3: Mr. Nunes, then the committee chairman, worked closely with the White House in writing his wiretap-dossier abuse memo. Mr. Nunes said he didn’t and Democrats presented no evidence that he did.


Leak 4: Democrats leaked that White House communications director Hope Hicks in testimony admitted to telling “white lies.” It turned out her example was that she would tell a caller Mr. Trump wasn’t in when he was.


Rebuttal problems
Mr. Schiff, a regular guest on CNN and MSNBC, suggested pre-Mueller report that he had seen evidence of a conspiracy or that certain known contacts between a Trump associate and a Russian amounted to election collusion.


In March 2017, the month he read from the dossier, Mr. Schiff said on MSNBC, “I don’t want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation, so that is what we ought to do.”


The following December on CNN, he said, “We have all of these facts in chronology, you’d have to believe that these were all isolated incidents, not connected to each other — just doesn’t make rational sense. … We do know this: The Russians offered help, the campaign accepted help, the Russians gave help and the president made full use of that help. That is pretty damning, whether it is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of conspiracy or not.”


One of Mr. Schiff’s major pieces of evidence is the July 2017 disclosure that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer in June 2016 who promised dirt on Hillary Clinton. The meeting lasted about 20 minutes, and the lawyer didn’t relay any dirt. The meeting had nothing to do with Russian hacking or social media information warfare.


In his overall conclusion, the Mueller report said, “The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”


In April 2018, Mr. Nunes and the Republican majority issued a report saying there was no election conspiracy. Mr. Schiff issued a 99-page rebuttal.
One section focused on George Papadopoulos, the Trump adviser who met Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese professor active in Western national security circles. In London, Mr. Mifsud told Mr. Papadopoulos on April 26, 2016, that he heard Moscow owned “thousands” of Clinton emails.
Mr. Schiff said Mr. Nunes never sought records to “determine whom on the campaign he would have reported this overture to.”
“You cannot find what you did not seek,” the Schiff report said.


In fact, the Mueller report a year later found that Mr. Papadopoulos never acted on what Mr. Mifsud said, nor told anyone on the campaign. He communicated with a Russian tied to a think tank about having candidate Trump visit Moscow. No visit happened.


Mr. Mueller examined all of Mr. Papadopoulos’ actions in Europe. There was no evidence he was involved in coordinating hacking or social media.
Mr. Schiff’s report is dotted with a Russian here and a Russian there reaching out to the Trump campaign. But again, the long Mueller investigation did not find any contact was part of a conspiracy.


The Schiff report implies that the National Rifle Associate took millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions from Russia. This is a theory pushed repeatedly by Fusion GPS, Mrs. Clinton’s opposition research firm that handled Mr. Steele and circulated his bogus dossier.
There was no evidence of this in the Mueller report. Nor have there been any confirmed reports that the FBI is investigating the NRA.


Resign and censure
News in March that the Mueller investigation found no Trump-Russia election conspiracy prompted House intelligence committee Republicans to write a letter demanding that Mr. Schiff resign the chairmanship.


“The findings of the special counsel conclusively refute your past and present assertions and have exposed you as having abused your position to knowingly promote false information, having damaged the integrity for his committee, and undermine faith in U.S. government institutions,” the Republicans wrote.
After Mr. Schiff’s “parody” routine, Rep. Andy Biggs, Arizona Republican, offered a resolution calling on the House to censure him.
Mr. Schiff vigorously defended himself at a March 28 hearing.


He mentioned: Don Jr.’s willingness to meet with the Russian attorney; Paul Manafort, former campaign chairman, providing polling data to his longtime employee in Ukraine who the FBI says is tied to Russian intelligence; adviser Roger Stone, who had a brief message exchange with a person who turned out to be a Russian intelligence officer.


“My colleagues may think it’s OK that the Russians offered dirt on the Democratic candidate for president as part of what was described as the Russian government’s effort to help the Trump campaign,” he said. “You might think that’s OK. My colleagues might think it’s OK, when that was offered to the son of the president who had a pivotal role in the campaign, that the president’s son did not call the FBI. He did not adamantly refuse that foreign help. No, instead that son said that he would love the help of the Russians.”


None of Mr. Schiff’s examples went to the core investigation: Did Trump associates conspire with Russians to interfere in the election?
Said Mr. Schiff, “I have always said that the question of whether this amounts to proof of conspiracy was another matter, whether the special counsel could prove beyond a reasonable doubt, the proof of that crime would be up to the special counsel and I would accept his decision, and I do. He’s a good and honorable man, and he is a good prosecutor. But I do not think that conduct, criminal or not, it’s OK. And the day we do think that’s OK is the day we will look back and say that is the day America lost its way.”





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Goosebumps and tingles up your leg, eh?

But no tongue up your ass, TUMA boy?

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Lol....but my ass has never been penetrated with anything just licked real good by a female tongue. It is pretty awesome
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Is this something Progressives do, lick ass? Eating shit is a good way to get parasitic infections.
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HF- Thanks for a good article on Schiff's blatant lying.

I hope it is used in the 2020 election in his district in kalifornia.
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a thing I did pick up on however

schiff is proposing to America the leftist dream of doing away with elections

we must impeach as elections are untrustworthy

its as though the proposal is, allow us, the elite, to rule

NGIT - got a source for that, please.

love to be able to throw that in the Fascist DPST's face - calling for One party totalitarian rule.
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No kidding. About 5 minutes into it - I said "oh hell no - I'll wait for the Readers Digest version."



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even one such as I, inured to stoic affliction from childhood, couldn't bear the continued droning and lost all interest
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NGIT - got a source for that, please.

love to be able to throw that in the Fascist DPST's face - calling for One party totalitarian rule.
here's what he said

For precisely this reason, the president's misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won," he added.
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Is this something Progressives do, lick ass? Eating shit is a good way to get parasitic infections.
Can't hurt 'em... they are a subspecies of parasites and their brains are already infected. Eating shit is part of their recommended daily diet.
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No kidding. About 5 minutes into it - I said "oh hell no - I'll wait for the Readers Digest version."

That's what I found amusing in arguing against the McConnell decision to go to 1a.m. and saying everybody will be asleep and not paying attention. How many people are staying home from work to watch and listen to this? Please. 90% of Americans who are even interested in this will get a synopsis of the day from which ever news source they choose to watch be it CNN, MSNBC or Fox since the big 3 ABC, CBS and NBC ( I'm told, I haven't checked ) are running their soaps because they would be crucified if they cancelled soaps for this.


What I have chosen to do since I watched every minute of the impeachment inquiry and have heard all this from the Democrats before, is DVR starting at 1 p.m. the days speeches and I fast forward through the speeches by the Democrats and listen to the synopsis of the talking heads on Fox news in particular Andy McCarthy former assistant US Attorney. who I believe has this shit down pat.


I heard a couple of people like Brit Hume say that Schiff did a pretty good job in the first 2 1/2 hours of the prosecutions case rehashing what was said during the inquiry and wondered what the Hell the other 6 were going to say for the next 22 1/2 hours that Schiff hadn't already said which goes to the point of why watch them repeat 6 more times what has already been said and if you watch the impeachment inquiry as I did, you've heard all this before.


What was surprising to me is that the prosecutors would fall for one of the oldest tricks in the legal book, getting your opponent to "open the door" for calling a witness that you didn't want called, Hunter Biden. The Dem's have said all along that Hunter Biden is not relevant to the case and shouldn't be called and here is a Democratic manager/ prosecutor talking about Hunter AND Joe Biden for the last hour making the case for the Republicans to say "they opened the door to this witness being called". If Hunter Biden and Joe Biden weren't relevant to the case, why did you bring them up? A rookie mistake to be sure. Those names should never have come out of the mouth of a Demcrat.
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HF- Thanks for a good article on Schiff's blatant lying.

Gave me an idea for a thread...the many lies of Putin’s punk. What’ca think?

I hope it is used in the 2020 election in his district in kalifornia.

Schiffty Schiff won’t be as unpopular as the Senators who vote to whitewash the fat lying bastards trial.
Viva la Schiffty Schiff
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Your kind of Liar, j666.
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Gave me an idea for a thread...the many lies of Putin’s punk. What’ca think?


I say go for it.
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