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~Ze~ · 10-02-2017, 10:20 PM

Everything I've read says she was IN Indonesia.. not that she IS Indonesian.

dallasfan · 10-02-2017, 10:33 PM

Muslim terrorism is alive and well in Philippines too.

Chung Tran · 10-02-2017, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dallasfan

Muslim terrorism is alive and well in Philippines too.

hey, that's right.. what am I backtracking for?

the news people always get wrong "facts" early after these kinds of incidents. I read she was in the Philippines, that the killer sent lots of money there.. but who knows? big gambler? crazy Goon? Islam-inspired? we should find out eventually.

I also heard this morning that she was "found" soon after the killing, that she had been seen with the Killer in his car that morning.. now I read she was in the Philippines at the time.. no wonder she was released so fast.. yet nobody mentioned that until 8-10 hours later.

alaine · 10-02-2017, 11:24 PM

Interesting that the shooter lived in Mesquite NV...... BUT lived in Mesquite TX from 2004 to about 2011.

suiram77 · 10-02-2017, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Crzytxn

On the news this morning, another madman with automatic weapons. Has shot over 400 people..... killing over 50. 20000 people were all gathered together to watch a Jason Aldean Concert.
How he acquired fully automatic weapons, and got them into a hotel. Don’t know yet.

Crzytxn

Crz it's actually very easy to do buddy, I always carry and I mean always every where. A hotel is not going to stop you no matter how long or big your bag is and trust me I have seen it with my on eyes. I remember long time ago when Texas wasn't a open carry state yet and I was at the post office with my glock on me and I remember a Plano police officer walked up to me and started a conversation with me while I was checking my box and he was dropping mail then his partner walked in and join the convo.

They never knew I had a gun on me at all, now in my case I wear a inside the pants gun holster, but the key is to always act normal and not weird or nervous and you will be surprised what all you can get away with. I'm confident That's exactly what this guy did, he was very calm and acting normal when he got there and checked in and gave no reason for no one to be on alert and that's how this has happen buddy. Very sad, but the truth

Copierguy0 · 10-03-2017, 12:23 AM

I think Y’all are picking at straws, believing everything that is posted on the internet and news, Trying to make some kind of sense from the acts of this crazy lunatic. The facts are: we live in a different world than our ancestors before us. Terrorists, lunatic’s, lone wolf, whatever you want to call them, have found a new way to hurt us, By surprise and unexpected attacks. This is not the first mass shooting or massacre and it won’t be the last. I understand we all want to carry gun’s to protect ourselves but come on, MACHINE GUN’S?

There were police at that concert with guns, did that protect them? NO the fact remains; guns and drugs are very accessible in this country. People are learning what it takes to use certain chemicals to make a bomb. Go to flight school to use a plane as a weapon. Use cars and trucks as a mobile bomb or to mow people down with. I cannot even fathom what goes through a person’s mind to make him follow through with acts like this. Combine all this with natural disasters and MANY people are dying. Police can no longer protect us against acts like this. AND NO ONE HAS A FUCKING CLUE ON HOW TO FIX IT, THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF WAR.

That would make a very nice twist on this thread:
If you had the power to make changes, how would you fix this situation?

CG

suiram77 · 10-03-2017, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Copierguy0

I think Y’all are picking at straws, believing everything that is posted on the internet and news, Trying to make some kind of sense from the acts of this crazy lunatic. The facts are: we live in a different world than our ancestors before us. Terrorists, lunatic’s, lone wolf, whatever you want to call them, have found a new way to hurt us, By surprise and unexpected attacks. This is not the first mass shooting or massacre and it won’t be the last. I understand we all want to carry gun’s to protect ourselves but come on, MACHINE GUN’S?

There were police at that concert with guns, did that protect them? NO the fact remains; guns and drugs are very accessible in this country. People are learning what it takes to use certain chemicals to make a bomb. Go to flight school to use a plane as a weapon. Use cars and trucks as a mobile bomb or to mow people down with. I cannot even fathom what goes through a person’s mind to make him follow through with acts like this. Combine all this with natural disasters and MANY people are dying. Police can no longer protect us against acts like this. AND NO ONE HAS A FUCKING CLUE ON HOW TO FIX IT, THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF WAR.

That would make a very nice twist on this thread:
If you had the power to make changes, how would you fix this situation?

CG

Very true spoken well buddy

As to changes I will never want touch the constitution so our 2nd admt will have to stay in place for me. Honestly at this point it's really nothing we really can do to stop this kind of acts from happening and the reason is because, just like this 64 year old guy that has never really done anything wrong as far as the law, a person really can just wake up in the morning and say I'm going to rob a bank, kill someone, do a mass shooting, steal a car or even the very worst shoot and kill some cops just like the guy did in Dallas.

Sometimes a person really can just wake up and snapped and has never done anything or broken any major laws all their lives. So this notion that ppl say well you don't just wake up and start committing crimes is bull shit because as we see yes you can!!!!!!!!!

Every one that commits a crime is not a criminal, in order to be a criminal there has to be a history/record of crimes committed by such person. This is why any of us could be this guy at any point in our life, all it takes is just a switch to go off and boom!!!!! You made the 5 o'clock news.

rexdutchman · 10-03-2017, 10:13 AM

God bless the families , Now Full Auto AK47 ( you can hear it ) elevated hide Hi impact target 330 yards down range and Indonesian girlfriend and ISIS takes credit. The girlfriend is out of the country, make Me wonder Just saying.

Roy Wally · 10-03-2017, 11:09 AM

It is still early-on in the investigation into this guy and his past.
Time will tell. Certainly doesn't make sense, wealthy guy, no criminal past, no red flags, nothing out of the ordinary. And he just snaps? Sure, it could happen, but I'm guessing there's more to it than just that.
Police may already know things but can't say yet. Prayers to the injured and families of those killed.

TexTushHog · 10-03-2017, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by suiram77

Very true spoken well buddy

As to changes I will never want touch the constitution so our 2nd admt will have to stay in place for me. Honestly at this point it's really nothing we really can do to stop this kind of acts from happening and the reason is because, just like this 64 year old guy that has never really done anything wrong as far as the law, a person really can just wake up in the morning and say I'm going to rob a bank, kill someone, do a mass shooting, steal a car or even the very worst shoot and kill some cops just like the guy did in Dallas.

Sometimes a person really can just wake up and snapped and has never done anything or broken any major laws all their lives. So this notion that ppl say well you don't just wake up and start committing crimes is bull shit because as we see yes you can!!!!!!!!!

Every one that commits a crime is not a criminal, in order to be a criminal there has to be a history/record of crimes committed by such person. This is why any of us could be this guy at any point in our life, all it takes is just a switch to go off and boom!!!!! You made the 5 o'clock news.

Nothing we can do to stop it, but we’re the on,y country in the world where this kind of shit happens. Just brilliant. How long did you have to think to come up with that one?

suiram77 · 10-03-2017, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Nothing we can do to stop it, but we’re the on,y country in the world where this kind of shit happens. Just brilliant. How long did you have to think to come up with that one?

TTH let's here your explanation I'm very confident that it want work. You cannot stop any one from waking up in the morning and go kill a mass of ppl so please tell me how you think we can stop that and I promise you I will tear your reason to pieces.

Strict gun laws or saying automatic weapons are now illegal will not stop another mass shooting and to prove my point I own serval guns including a aka47 and AR15 and there is nothing or no one that could stop me from going to the fair tomorrow and destroy ppl lives forever if I was in that kind of state of mind like this guy was.

Let's hear your resolution buddy I can't wait to hear this shit.

Crock · 10-03-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TexTushHog

Nothing we can do to stop it, but we’re the on,y country in the world where this kind of shit happens. Just brilliant. How long did you have to think to come up with that one?

Are you saying that the USA is the only place in the world that has mass shootings?

If so, what drugs are you on and where can I get some?

dallasfan · 10-03-2017, 01:42 PM

If you wake up in the morning and are seriously considering going to kill a group of people, then there is something wrong with you. You need help. ...Just saying. That is not normal behavior.

Chung Tran · 10-03-2017, 02:24 PM

TTH is known for left-wing pronouncements, but he never offers solutions.. this issue is not solvable, but over time the incidents can be reduced.. TTH's response was a non-starter, saying the US is the only Country with this problem.

before D.C. became a refuge for highly-paid Government workers, beginning in the 1990's, it was the shining example of gun-law failure.. gun sales were outlawed, yet D.C. had the highest murder rate in the nation.. people will find and possess guns, regardless of laws.. same as they do in the 45, or whatever States, where weed is illegal.

~Ze~ · 10-03-2017, 02:29 PM

But once a person is having those kinds of thoughts, they obviusly aren't in their right mind to say to themselves "Oh, shit, I am thinking like a crazy person, I should go seek help"...

I find it sad that finances, breakups, and "respect" are a lot of the reasons for incidents like this in the US. We need to change our culture on a few fronts.