Tea Party Debate

[F-Sharp]

Originally Posted by Dick Gozinya

Stop the illegals, stop entitlement programs(both foreign and domestic) fight the wars more efficiently, then throw in tort and energy reform, and you'll cut trillions from the budget, both short and long term.

I would also like to add that pointing out how bad Bush 43 sucked is no excuse for Obama sucking too.

No, but it does mean that if you agree Bush sucked, than you also agree that all the current candidates suck as bad or worse. I don't see their proposals being much different and better than half of them are just as idiotic as he is.

[Yssup Rider]

Maybe we should start with English! The more they rape education, the more challenging that will be.

[F-Sharp]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

We better all learn how to speak Chinese. USA will soon be the new China.

China only carries 1.4 trillion of our $14.2 trillion debt, but feel free to learn a little Chinese. In your case ANY education you can get would be a vast improvement.

[zach1978]

Originally Posted by F-Sharp

Here's where the stupid really begins to burn. Herman Cain wants to implement a 9/9/9 plan.

http://www.hermancain.com/images/economicgrowth.pdf

9% sales tax, 9% income tax, and 9% corporate tax. Sounds great right? Low taxes and everyone pays their fair share. Well, no suprise to me, he's way the fuck off! Here's some figures from 2009:

Total Retail Sales - 2009: $4,091,723,000,000
9% = $368,255,070,000

Total U.S. Wages Paid - 2009: $5,900,000,000,000
9% = $531,000,000,000

Total U.S Corporation Profits (rough guess based on quarterly data avg. of $1.25 Tril) - 2009 : 5,000,000,000,000
9% = $450,000,000,000

$368,255,070,000 + $531,000,000,000 + $450,000,000,000 =

Total United States Revenue = $1,349,255,070,000

Anyone else see a problem here? How about this...it's only about 38% of our current annual budget! Unless we cut $2.1 trillion + interest from our current budget we'll double our current National debt of $14 trillion within 6 years. Assuming wages don't continue to drop an average 6% a year and another recession doesn't eat up retail sales, you'd need a 23/23/23 plan just to break even, and that's without ever beginning to touch our current National debt. For someone who claims to be a businessman, his math is particularly bad.

This should give you a rough idea just how loony these GOP characters really are.

Next!

I thought his 9/9/9 plan was... "Get Three Godfather's Medium Pizzas for just $9.99 a piece!"

[WyldemanATX]

Originally Posted by F-Sharp

China only carries 1.4 trillion of our $14.2 trillion debt, but feel free to learn a little Chinese. In your case ANY education you can get would be a vast improvement.

I can see your education has made you a complete nonsense kinda guy.

So admit that your savior has run up the debt to 14.2 trillion!

Just an FYI to liberals the whole if you do not agree with me then you are uneducated is a sign of ignorance in itself.

[Billy_Saul]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

Just an FYI to liberals the whole if you do not agree with me then you are uneducated is a sign of ignorance in itself.

lol

[DTorrchia]

Originally Posted by Booth

Bring the troops home today. Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Poland, bring them all home.

Hmmm, didn't we try that approach prior to WWII? Keep all the troops at home, don't get involved in "other people's" wars and all that jazz...Yep, that approach worked out fine right up until December 7th, 1941.

Where we in Iraq or Afghanistan prior to 9/11? Did our troops being home stop us from getting attacked and getting almost 3,000 of our people killed?

Just curious, how many successful foreign terrorist attacks have there been inside the United States post 9/11?

Maybe having troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has done some good after all? Could it be?

[budman33]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

Just an FYI to liberals the whole if you do not agree with me then you are uneducated is a sign of ignorance in itself.

You know that isnt even a sentence right? If you are seriously going to slam people's education, get one. At least you could have proofed it in Word.

[Booth]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

Just an FYI to liberals the whole if you do not agree with me then you are uneducated is a sign of ignorance in itself.

That's a hall of fame comment if ever there was one!

The Chinese can put the greatest minds they have on this one and still not be able to accurately translate it into Chinese. I'm not sure anyone here can accurately translate it into English!

[Booth]

Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Maybe having troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has done some good after all? Could it be?

The latter - perhaps. Iraq- highly doubtful but we'll never really know. Why not reduce troop numbers in Germany and Poland? The cold war is over and has been for years.

[DTorrchia]

Originally Posted by Booth

The latter - perhaps. Iraq- highly doubtful but we'll never really know. Why not reduce troops numbers in Germany and Poland? The cold war is over and has been for years.

We actually have cut our troops in Germany substantially. They are still closing more bases as we speak and sending home even more. We've brought entire divisions home since the early 1990's.

[Booth]

Originally Posted by Wyldeman30

Just an FYI to liberals the whole if you do not agree with me then you are uneducated is a sign of ignorance in itself.

These are the words that should appear on your headstone.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Hmmm, didn't we try that approach prior to WWII? Keep all the troops at home, don't get involved in "other people's" wars and all that jazz...Yep, that approach worked out fine right up until December 7th, 1941.

Where we in Iraq or Afghanistan prior to 9/11? Did our troops being home stop us from getting attacked and getting almost 3,000 of our people killed?

Just curious, how many successful foreign terrorist attacks have there been inside the United States post 9/11?

Maybe having troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has done some good after all? Could it be?

This is a very interesting comment, DT.

Are you saying because we didn't have troops occupying other countries, we got attacked at Pearl Harbor? That's what it reads like.

But then, you said our troops were home at the time of the 9/11 attack, which is what didn't prevent the attack? REALLY? How many tens of thousands of American troops were stationed around the globe at that time? How many on ships in the Indian Ocean? How many Air Force personnel based in nearby countries?

How many successful foreign terrorist attacks were carried out inside the US prior to 9/11?

You think this was about not having troops in Iraq and Afghanistan? Is this Urinalysis, er, your analysis?

Exactly WTF are you trying to say with this because it reads like stereo instructions...

[F-Sharp]

Originally Posted by DTorrchia

Just curious, how many successful foreign terrorist attacks have there been inside the United States post 9/11?

Maybe having troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has done some good after all? Could it be?

I think the question is, how many foreign terrorist attacks have there been inside the United States BEFORE 9/11? We didn't need those troops in Iraq and Afghanistan for a good 200 years prior, and we certainly don't need them there now.

[WyldemanATX]

Originally Posted by budman33

You know that isnt even a sentence right? Yup. The fact that you feel the need to point it out is my point. If you are seriously going to slam people's education, get one. I actually have a couple degrees in CIS. At least you could have proofed it in Word.

If I proofed it in word then you would not have any material.