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02-16-2023, 11:26 AM
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I'm just curious how a young man almost losing his life on the football field is even remotely political. Was he running for mayor of Buffalo too or did I miss something?
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Is this thread political?
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02-16-2023, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
Supposed vaccine related deaths are not statistically significant. In other words the amount of people dying from these types of events hasn't increased post vaccine. It's just whiny vaccine deniers blaming all these events on the jab.
Reality is, even if a few cases did die from vaccine related side effects the potential loss of life without the vaccine would be in the 10s of millions. Up to 40-50 million would have died. Hospitals were already at or over capacity as it was space wise and equipment wise. Without the vaccines and other efforts the virus would have spread much faster and that would have overwhelmed the medical system.
Those with severe symptoms would have to be euthanized at some point because that would be more humane than letting them die a slow suffocating death without medical help.
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Will you be telling the same story if your loved one gets the vaccination (or booster) and dropped dead?
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02-16-2023, 01:25 PM
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Maybe he's a member here. Hence RTM for medical speculation
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02-16-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
Supposed vaccine related deaths are not statistically significant. In other words the amount of people dying from these types of events hasn't increased post vaccine. It's just whiny vaccine deniers blaming all these events on the jab.
Reality is, even if a few cases did die from vaccine related side effects the potential loss of life without the vaccine would be in the 10s of millions. Up to 40-50 million would have died. Hospitals were already at or over capacity as it was space wise and equipment wise. Without the vaccines and other efforts the virus would have spread much faster and that would have overwhelmed the medical system.
Those with severe symptoms would have to be euthanized at some point because that would be more humane than letting them die a slow suffocating death without medical help.
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How the hell do you know?
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02-16-2023, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Levianon17
How the hell do you know?
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Research, truth is no one really knows. Just estimates.
What I do know is everything possible was done to stop the spread and that has to be good enough. What if we did very little to stop the spread and 40 million died, or 20 million, whatever. People would be up in arms yelling "why didn't you do more when you could????" It was a no win situation, so the CDC sided on shutdowns, masking, distancing and vaccines. Many didn't like it, but many of those not liking it are probably alive today to bitch about it.
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02-16-2023, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
Research, truth is no one really knows. Just estimates.
What I do know is everything possible was done to stop the spread and that has to be good enough. What if we did very little to stop the spread and 40 million died, or 20 million, whatever. People would be up in arms yelling "why didn't you do more when you could????" It was a no win situation, so the CDC sided on shutdowns, masking, distancing and vaccines. Many didn't like it, but many of those not liking it are probably alive today to bitch about it.
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Well said, sir.
Well said.
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02-16-2023, 05:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by royamcr
Research, truth is no one really knows. Just estimates.
What I do know is everything possible was done to stop the spread and that has to be good enough. What if we did very little to stop the spread and 40 million died, or 20 million, whatever. People would be up in arms yelling "why didn't you do more when you could????" It was a no win situation, so the CDC sided on shutdowns, masking, distancing and vaccines. Many didn't like it, but many of those not liking it are probably alive today to bitch about it.
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Oh guess work. Then it's has no scientific basis and it's worth nothing. Oh by the way, I never wore a mask, got the jab or even got Covid and I am not the only one I can guarantee it. You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
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02-16-2023, 06:28 PM
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In the US 1.2 million have died with all the precautions. Hospitals were packed as it is and there wasn't enough equipment to go around. It wouldn't be that hard to get to the 20-40 million number if nothing was done. Only a FOOL (that is you) could think otherwise. The virus would have spread exponentially and very quickly. Not all would have died getting it, but even if 1% died that is 3.3 million.
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02-16-2023, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
In the US 1.2 million have died with all the precautions. Hospitals were packed as it is and there wasn't enough equipment to go around. It wouldn't be that hard to get to the 20-40 million number if nothing was done. Only a FOOL (that is you) could think otherwise. The virus would have spread exponentially and very quickly. Not all would have died getting it, but even if 1% died that is 3.3 million.
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Trump built thousands of ventilators, they’re still in storage. He sent a hospital boat to NYC, built a hospital in the Jefferts center. They were never used.
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02-16-2023, 06:35 PM
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Back to the topic, even if Hamlin's case was something vaccine related. There are 1700 NFL players on active rosters, not including practice squads. All of them were required to be vaccinated. Why aren't there many more cases? You'd think with their activity level they would be dropping like flies. Hamlin represented .06% of players. Just over 1/2 of .1%. You deniers need to learn to think critically. 17 would have to have some sort of issue to even get to 1% of players.
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02-16-2023, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
Trump built thousands of ventilators, they’re still in storage. He sent a hospital boat to NYC, built a hospital in the Jefferts center. They were never used.
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And that is a good thing, they weren't used because of all the mitigation efforts, vaccines, etc. If they were used I guarantee you we'd bee looking at at least 10-20x the deaths in the US.
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02-16-2023, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
And that is a good thing, they weren't used because of all the mitigation efforts, vaccines, etc. If they were used I guarantee you we'd bee looking at at least 10-20x the deaths in the US.
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That was before the vaccines. But Cuomo still stuffed Seniors into ederly homes. I hope he hangs someday. Along with many others.
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02-16-2023, 07:56 PM
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Where else were they to go?
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02-16-2023, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
Where else were they to go?
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Maybe to the makeshift hospitals or the boat. But not senior centers. That’s the last place they should go. Wake up. You’re listening to the wrong things. It’s obvious.
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02-16-2023, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bambino
Maybe to the makeshift hospitals or the boat. But not senior centers. That’s the last place they should go. Wake up. You’re listening to the wrong things. It’s obvious.
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Senior homes have nurses and infirmaries. Damn that's dumb!
Obvious?
Wake up!
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