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Old 03-04-2016, 02:45 PM   #16
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In a presidential debate, for no reason? Absolutely. If we were shooting the shit? Absolutely not. There is a time and a place. As you demonstrated, we have to go back 150 years to find an example of something remotely similar happening.

Where did I say anything even remotely like this. Oh yeah, I didn't. As usual, you can't debate what I've said, so you have to put words in my mouth.
It's a well established fact that you are a minion for anything dim-retard, and you've gone to the Nth degree to defend Hildabeast. Plus, you are willfully ignoring the sexual peccadilloes of Gary Hart and John Edwards that were widely reported and 'discussed' in a public forum. Oh, and there's this nagging issue that's been a topic of public conversation for over forty years:

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Old 03-04-2016, 02:47 PM   #17
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Ok, so you didn't say anything about Slick Willy the Perjuring Sexual Predator, because that topic makes you uncomfortable.
Seems to be a projection. I'm not uncomfortable about the topic at all. It is you and IB who are deflecting away from Trump's childish comments trying to downplay them. Why are you so afraid to see them as they are? Does accepting that Trump acts like a child make you uncomfortable?

But, FTR, I did say anything about it because it has nothing to do with the topic and reeked of a feeble attempt at a "gotcha." What Clinton did or did not do in office has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Trump's comments were completely childish. Which they were. If you want me to say that what Clinton's unfaithful philandering while in office was wrong, I absolutely think it was. More wrong than Trump's childishness. But, last I checked, Bill ain't running for president.

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But you obviously relish talking about Trump's inappropriate remark in last night's debate.

That tells us your "outrage" is feigned and selective. Not the first time either.
I'm not outraged at all. Please don't project. I just thought it was funny in light of all the times people accused Obama of acting "beneath" the office.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:05 PM   #18
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Seems to be a projection. I'm not uncomfortable about the topic at all. It is you and IB who are deflecting away from Trump's childish comments trying to downplay them. Why are you so afraid to see them as they are? Does accepting that Trump acts like a child make you uncomfortable?

But, FTR, I did say anything about it because it has nothing to do with the topic and reeked of a feeble attempt at a "gotcha." What Clinton did or did not do in office has absolutely no bearing on whether or not Trump's comments were completely childish. Which they were. If you want me to say that what Clinton's unfaithful philandering while in office was wrong, I absolutely think it was. More wrong than Trump's childishness. But, last I checked, Bill ain't running for president.


I'm not outraged at all. Please don't project. I just thought it was funny in light of all the times people accused Obama of acting "beneath" the office.
It's not at all "deflecting" to reveal, with the addition of historical perspective, your childish display of mock outrage for what it is: hyperventilating hypocrisy. BTW, Hildabeast covered, e.g., "nuts and sluts" campaign, for Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator for many, many years, and she IS, btw, running for office.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:18 PM   #19
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It's not at all "deflecting" to reveal, with the addition of historical perspective, your childish display of mock outrage. BTW, Hildabeast covered, e.g., "nuts and sluts" campaign, for Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator for many, many years, and she is running for office.
Pointing to what someone did 150 years ago to try and justify what he did last night is, in fact, deflecting. Just because someone else acted childish in history does not make his actions any less childish.

Pointing out that someone did something completely different (that was disgusting, no doubt) 20 years is, in fact, deflecting. What Bill did while in office has no bearing, what-so-ever, on whether or not Trump acted like a child last night. Which he did.

Why are you so afraid to admit that Trump is acting like a child?
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:30 PM   #20
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Pointing to what someone did 150 years ago to try and justify what he did last night is, in fact, deflecting. Just because someone else acted childish in history does not make his actions any less childish.

Pointing out that someone did something completely different (that was disgusting, no doubt) 20 years is, in fact, deflecting. What Bill did while in office has no bearing, what-so-ever, on whether or not Trump acted like a child last night. Which he did.

Why are you so afraid to admit that Trump is acting like a child?
You truly are a dumb twit to miss the point of how even the highly honored and respected Lincoln was known to enjoy engaging in an exchange of crude and rude remarks on occasion. And, btw, it's you and your ilk's mock outrage about Trump that's being ridiculed here. You feign outrage over his remarks, but you probably voted for Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator twice, and it's quite evident that you intend to vote for Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator's enabler: Hildabeast. So, why don't you admit you're a hypocrite.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:47 PM   #21
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You truly are a dumb twit to miss the point of how even the highly honored and respected Lincoln was known to enjoy engaging in an exchange of crude and rude remarks on occasion.
What leads you to believe I don't understand your point? I get it. I'm just pointing out how weak the point is because it requires one going back 150 years to find something that only kind-of, sort-of is similar to Trump boasting about his penis size.

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And, btw, it's your your ilk's mock outrage about Trump that's being ridiculed here.
Again, I'm not outraged and stop projecting. You are the one who appears to be freaking out over this whole thing, not me. I actually find it entertaining that Trump is making it so hard for people to avoid admitting that the guy is completely childish.

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You feign outrage over his remarks, but you probably voted for Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator twice, and it's quite evident that you intend to vote for Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator's enabler: Hildabeast. So, why don't you admit you're a hypocrite.
I never said I wasn't going to vote for Trump because he acts like a child.
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Old 03-04-2016, 03:56 PM   #22
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What leads you to believe I don't understand your point? I get it. I'm just pointing out how weak the point is because it requires one going back 150 years to find something that only kind-of, sort-of is similar to Trump boasting about his penis size. It's obvious you didn't get the point because you are still myopically fixated on "150 years" rather than acknowledging that I picked Lincoln because even the revered Lincoln tended, at times, to be rude and uncouth.

Again, I'm not outraged and stop projecting. You are the one who appears to be freaking out over this whole thing, not me. I actually find it entertaining that Trump is making it so hard for people to avoid admitting that the guy is completely childish. The fact that you troubled yourself to remark in this thread as you have has established otherwise.

I never said I wasn't going to vote for Trump because he acts like a child. But you are going to vote for the molester's enabler.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:31 PM   #23
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It's obvious you didn't get the point because you are still myopically fixated on "150 years" rather than acknowledging that I picked Lincoln because even the revered Lincoln tended, at times, to be rude and uncouth.
What's obvious is that you don't get the point that maybe you should find an example of something happening during a time that isn't so drastically different than the one we currently live in.

If Trump came out and said "Black people shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't care if they all die" your equivalent argument would be. "Well, Garfield once said, 'I have a strong feeling of repugnance when I think of the Negro being made our political equal. And I would be glad if they could be colonized, sent to heaven, or got rid of in any decent way.'"

It was a different time. Trying to justify the comment because someone said something similar 150 years ago just isn't a strong point. Sorry.

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fact that you troubled yourself to remark in this thread as you have has established otherwise.
Wait, you think that posting in a thread about something is evidence of "outrage?" That isn't patently ridiculous at face value to you? I was simply pointing out the humor of it. You want me to be outraged about because you are. But it doesn't work that way. I'm laughing about this.

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But you are going to vote for the molester's enabler.
As I've said elsewhere, probably not. But I tend to separate the private lives of a person from their political lives. As the statement goes "good and great are seldom the same man." I'm under no delusion that these candidates likely have skeletons in their closets, especially Clinton and especially Trump.
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What's obvious is that you don't get the point that maybe you should find an example of something happening during a time that isn't so drastically different than the one we currently live in. Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator IS a contemporary example, or do you not understand 'double entendres'?

If Trump came out and said "Black people shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't care if they all die" your equivalent argument would be. "Well, Garfield once said, 'I have a strong feeling of repugnance when I think of the Negro being made our political equal. And I would be glad if they could be colonized, sent to heaven, or got rid of in any decent way.'" We've already discussed Senator Byrd's racism, or don't you remember?

It was a different time. Trying to justify the comment because someone said something similar 150 years ago just isn't a strong point. Sorry. Again, the Lincoln anecdote was introduced to expose you and your ilk's blatant and hypocritical mock outrage, and it does.

Wait, you think that posting in a thread about something is evidence of "outrage?" That isn't patently ridiculous at face value to you? I was simply pointing out the humor of it. You want me to be outraged about because you are. But it doesn't work that way. I'm laughing about this. The source of any humor here stems in your hyperventilating hypocrisy.

As I've said elsewhere, probably not. But I tend to separate the private lives of a person from their political lives. As the statement goes "good and great are seldom the same man." I'm under no delusion that these candidates likely have skeletons in their closets, especially Clinton and especially Trump.
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Gee, that means we only need to go back a couple of decades (not 150 years) to find comparable bad behavior by a Democrat President, right eatfido?

One of the few reasons I can think of to support Trump is - if he is the nominee (against Hillary) then Slick Willy's long rap sheet of sexually deviant transgressions (and lies about them) will be fair game throughout the campaign! And Trump won't pull any punches about it! I'm not a big fan of political mud-slinging, but in this case I'll make an exception. Does anyone really want to see Slick Willy prowling the halls of the White House again?
Only Lil Cotex wishes for the convicted sexual predator to return to the play ground where they used the F.B.I files against their "enemies " and the Clinton's STOLE items when they left the last time. He's OK with anything THOSE lyin liberals do !!
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Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator IS a contemporary example, or do you not understand 'double entendres'?
Nope. Sorry. Not the same. What Clinton did was wrong, but being unfaithful, privately, and getting caught, is not the same as proudly putting your childishness front and center for everyone to hear, in a televised, presidential debate. Adults cheating on their spouses is a common occurance. It may be wrong, but it is reality. It's children who stand up in front of everyone and boast about how large their penis is. Trying to compare these two makes absolutely no sense. One is the action of an unfaithful adult who got caught, one is the action of a childish adult intentionally acting that way in public.

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We've already discussed Senator Byrd's racism, or don't you remember?
The deceased Byrd is now running for president? You do realize that the comparison I drew is all but completely identical to your whole position here, correct? Deflecting to Byrd just makes it look like you cannot defend your position.

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Again, the Lincoln anecdote was introduced to expose you and your ilk's blatant and hypocritical mock outrage, and it does.
Again, not outraged. Stop projecting. But, did you really just make the argument that I am hypocritical because I didn't get outraged by the words of a president, made before my grandmother was born, but am currently laughing at Trump's childishness right now?
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What's obvious is that you don't get the point that maybe you should find an example of something happening during a time that isn't so drastically different than the one we currently live in.

If Trump came out and said "Black people shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't care if they all die" your equivalent argument would be. "Well, Garfield once said, 'I have a strong feeling of repugnance when I think of the Negro being made our political equal. And I would be glad if they could be colonized, sent to heaven, or got rid of in any decent way.'"

It was a different time. Trying to justify the comment because someone said something similar 150 years ago just isn't a strong point. Sorry.
Actually, you just made IB's argument stronger. Sexual and social mores have loosened up enormously since Lincoln's time. So if you consider the two remarks (by Trump and Lincoln) to be equally shocking and vulgar by today's standards, then Lincoln looks ten times more scandalous and over the top for his own day and age.

And it's pathetic for you to pretend to make a point by positing something Trump never said. Of course you toss it out there because you want others to think he COULD have said it, being a racist and all. Don't think we don't see what you're doing.


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Wait, you think that posting in a thread about something is evidence of "outrage?" … I was simply pointing out the humor of it... I'm laughing about this.
Right, it's all just good-natured humor. Got it... So is it safe to assume you're likely to vote for the Donald? That seems like the least you can do to show your appreciation for all the good humor and entertainment he keeps titillating you with.

When's the last time Hillary gave you a good laugh? When she said “I try not to lie”?

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Nope. Sorry. Not the same. What Clinton did was wrong, but being unfaithful, privately, and getting caught, is not the same as proudly putting your childishness front and center for everyone to hear, in a televised, presidential debate. Adults cheating on their spouses is a common occurrence. It may be wrong, but it is reality. It's children who stand up in front of everyone and boast about how large their penis is. Trying to compare these two makes absolutely no sense. One is the action of an unfaithful adult who got caught, one is the action of a childish adult intentionally acting that way in public.
Get real. Slick Willy didn't engage in simple infidelity. Like, say, JFK. Try comparing those two Presidents. Jack Kennedy had consensual sex with Marilyn Monroe. Bill Clinton forced himself on trailer park trash like Paula Jones. Face it, your pal Bubba has NO TASTE, NO CHARM, NO GAME. His demons go much deeper than an inability to be faithful. He preyed on women against their will. You keep calling Trump “childish”. If anyone has a case of arrested development, it's Slick Willy. Emotionally, he is still stuck at the adolescent-child level. As for Trump, I wince at him more for being insecure than childish. If you think penis anxiety is uncommon among adults, try questioning the virility of all your male friends and see how many get defensive about it.

Speaking of childish - Obama is the one who acts like a “petulant child” whenever he doesn't get his way. Even after 7 years in office, he hasn't matured to the point where he understands it's not only un-Presidential, but counter-productive to bitch and moan all the time at news conferences.
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Liz Hurley is hot. Ok, my opinion of Slick Willy the Perjuring Sexual Predator just went up a notch.
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Nope. Sorry. Not the same. What Clinton did was wrong, but being unfaithful, privately, and getting caught, is not the same as proudly putting your childishness front and center for everyone to hear, in a televised, presidential debate. Adults cheating on their spouses is a common occurance. It may be wrong, but it is reality. It's children who stand up in front of everyone and boast about how large their penis is. Trying to compare these two makes absolutely no sense. One is the action of an unfaithful adult who got caught, one is the action of a childish adult intentionally acting that way in public.

The deceased Byrd is now running for president? You do realize that the comparison I drew is all but completely identical to your whole position here, correct? Deflecting to Byrd just makes it look like you cannot defend your position.

Again, not outraged. Stop projecting. But, did you really just make the argument that I am hypocritical because I didn't get outraged by the words of a president, made before my grandmother was born, but am currently laughing at Trump's childishness right now?
Oh, but you might pretend that Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator didn't make Slick Willie the topic of gossip and ridicule, but you'd be lying to yourself. And Trump didn't say what you want to believe he said; whereas, Hildabeast's "huggy-kissy" Byrd is on record as having expressed thoughts very much like the one you wish to project onto Trump.

And your initial post, in fact, does reflect your hypocritical and mock outrage.


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And people complained about Obama's actions being "beneath the dignity of the office." I hope none of them are supporting Trump.
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