1st amendment needs changes

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Don’t fuck around with The Bill of Rights.
You have to take the bad with the good.

Who says?

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Missed the point.
Some speech needs consequences. No matter who says it.

No speech doesn't but actions do.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Winn is right about some o' this.
Maybe not about changing the First Amendment, but the
"hate speech" and protests that lead to damage and
destruction.

... And make no mistake - the groups chanting things like
"Death to Jews" is Hate Speech, surely designed to harass
and frighten others. ... Should THIS type of harassment
be considoured "protected speech"??

#### Salty

Well that's what this whole thread is about, disagreeing with Israel and the genocide of Palestinians. It's ok to voice hate against Iran, Russia, Palestine or Ukraine but not Israel. Some how Israel deserves special consideration no matter what they do.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Who says?

the founding fathers

Originally Posted by Levianon17

No speech doesn't but actions do.

correct

[royamcr]

Hard to believe there isn't more political slander/libel cases. A lot of it hides behind opinion and not presented as factual.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

...Let's give law enforcement their powers back.

So yer say'n: Fund da Police!?! How's dat square wid your BLM brethren?!?

[Ducbutter]

I repeat: scratch a liberal, find an authoritarian.

[winn dixie]

Biggest example.

I'm guessing ever one of yall that don't understand are ok with disguised free speech turning into riots? It's a plan for instability.

Many times these groups stated positions to press do not remotely match what they holler thru their megaphones and their true intent.

[Yssup Rider]

MAGAS believe the Constitution was given to Moses on Mount Sinai and is perfect, despite its age and the fact that it has been changed numerous times.

They will never open their minds to this idea as long as they believe that their “rights” were God given.

I think the whole thing could stand a good refresh. The entire document and all amendments.

[Lucas McCain]

Sounds like a lot of these spoiled college kids have way too much free time between now and finals. Shouldn't those motherfuckers be studying for finals? Haha

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

MAGAS believe the Constitution was given to Moses on Mount Sinai and is perfect, despite its age and the fact that it has been changed numerous times.

They will never open their minds to this idea as long as they believe that their “rights” were God given.

I think the whole thing could stand a good refresh. The entire document and all amendments.

We don't need a change in the Constitution. We need a change in leadership.

[eyecu2]

Well- I do think if you're told to disburse and don't have a permit with some timeframes associated to it, you're subject to removal. Including arrest and other possible charges as to resisting arrest, or violating statutes of assembly. Not saying you have to have a permit on public spaces, but the ability to limit the time duration might have a purpose so as to keep some sense of order and access to the public.

It's NOT only the protestors who have rights, but the rights of the public shouldn't be trampled by those trying to exercise their 1st amendment rights at everyone else's expense.

When you start to do things like block access or traffic or common spaces without any other options- sorry but you are being moved to a safe space- or arrested if you can't follow instructions. I'd even say that a timely amount / aka hour/ or HOURS should be allowed. But takeovers and all that shit-...sorry now you're using your rights to take away other ppls rights to access also.

[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

They will never open their minds to this idea as long as they believe that their “rights” were God given.

Ever hear the phrase "endowed by their creator"?
And rights needs no quotation marks.

[Ducbutter]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Well- I do think if you're told to disburse and don't have a permit with some timeframes associated to it, you're subject to removal. Including arrest and other possible charges as to resisting arrest, or violating statutes of assembly. Not saying you have to have a permit on public spaces, but the ability to limit the time duration might have a purpose so as to keep some sense of order and access to the public.

It's NOT only the protestors who have rights, but the rights of the public shouldn't be trampled by those trying to exercise their 1st amendment rights at everyone else's expense.

When you start to do things like block access or traffic or common spaces without any other options- sorry but you are being moved to a safe space- or arrested if you can't follow instructions. I'd even say that a timely amount / aka hour/ or HOURS should be allowed. But takeovers and all that shit-...sorry now you're using your rights to take away other ppls rights to access also.

Agree with you here.
Protests don't need to be physically violent to not be peaceful.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Daneskold1

By the way, the second amendment does not mean what you think it means. “Militia“ only refers to people in the armed services or today what we call the military.

This is pure ignorance and so clearly wrong that anything you write from this point forward is garbage.

The militia is: "The 'militia' was the entire adult male citizenry, who were not simply allowed to keep their own arms, but affirmatively required to do so.… With slight variations, the different colonies imposed a duty to keep arms and to muster occasionally for drill upon virtually every able-bodied white man between the age of majority and a designated cut-off age. Moreover, the duty to keep arms applied to every household, not just to those containing persons subject to militia service. Thus the over-aged and seamen, who were exempt from militia service, were required to keep arms for law enforcement and for the defense of their homes."

Thanks for playing....