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09-20-2012, 10:35 AM
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I'm with you on this one, If my reviews are not good enough, time to move on!
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BLM i understand your point however, lets not act like some among us don't write fake or very misleading reviews. Reviews is strictly from our point of view. We don't know what the lady might think. So ladies i think you should do your diligence and only use reviews as part of your screening.
Tigercat I know you are big on reputation and what not but anybody can get behind a keyboard and post whatever. Let's say there is a handle Tiger Cat ( yes eccie allows similar handles to exist )vs Tigercat and he sends a lady pm request. Based on your theory chances are the lady will see him
Let's not forget gents who seperate p411 from Eccie handle. I also think reputation or gut screening is very risky.
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09-20-2012, 11:38 AM
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well if you are screening for cops, reputation and reviews should be able to tell you that. But if youre trying to screen to see if the guy is going to cut your head off, or fuck you too hard, or short you on your donation, etc etc there is no screening for that, you don't kow when a perfectly normal screened guy could plan on killing you , or plan on shorting you, it could be the one time he decides to do it, we are all only going off track records, we all know people can act out of character at any time. Its just a risk of doing business. A guy could be your regular and one day decide to short you, or harm you.
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09-20-2012, 02:42 PM
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well if you are screening for cops, reputation and reviews should be able to tell you that.
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If I recall an old post from years ago, reviews will definitely NOT prevent that.
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09-20-2012, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: Jan 28, 2010
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In the very end, The ladies and us guys have to do whatever feels right, Something to always remember, This is a dangerous Hobby (both ways) always do your research whatever that might be.
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09-20-2012, 05:19 PM
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Tigercat I know you are big on reputation and what not but anybody can get behind a keyboard and post whatever. Let's say there is a handle Tiger Cat ( yes eccie allows similar handles to exist )vs Tigercat and he sends a lady pm request. Based on your theory chances are the lady will see him
Let's not forget gents who seperate p411 from Eccie handle. I also think reputation or gut screening is very risky.
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If the lady gets a PM from a guy named TIGER CAT and does not cross check that to tigercat, I can't help her.
It is pretty simple. Get a PM from TIGER CAT. In the PM, under the avatar, there will be the same list of number of post, reviews, etc. If she is using my methods, she can click on reviews and see a list of TIGER CAT's reviews and do her research. My reviews will not show up under it. If she just uses her memory of some pervert named tigercat, then she will get burned.
There is nothing to stop anyone from doing the game you suggest, with any identity or screening method. Some ass will always find a way to get around it and screw it up for the rest of us.
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09-20-2012, 09:04 PM
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I have had two instances where ladies have said they have seen me and I have no idea what they are talking about. I asked: Did you receive a pm from me thru icky? Did you receive an email from me, if so what was the address? Whenever I contact a lady I make it real clear who I am, and where I am.
Thincking that writing some reviews or your board persona is adequate screening is just plain silly on so many levels.
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09-21-2012, 12:08 PM
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well if you are screening for cops, reputation and reviews should be able to tell you that.
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That is not necessarily true. You never know who is behind the screen and what stories they can come up with to post as threads. Again to base reviews or reputation as your only form of screening is dangerous.
Tigercat are you encouraging providers to just rely on reviews or reputation only to screen ?
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09-21-2012, 12:47 PM
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Tigercat are you encouraging providers to just rely on reviews or reputation only to screen ?
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NO!
What I am saying is if that is what you are doing, do it intelligently. And a lot of ladies are simply doing that. Don't just look at the number of reviews and number of posts and decide a guy is good to visit with. Go research the fellow. Try to make sure the two of you will be a match. This is part of why we are willing to pay you $200 or more for an hour of your time: We expect you to have some inkling of how to make me happy.
If you read my post here -
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=556704
You will get another side to my same argument. Guy posts that he is having poor luck in having a good time. Immediately, half a dozen ladies say come see me. They don't have a clue if this guy is safe, if he is the problem. Sure, they may screen him somehow, but he doesn't even have any reviews. What makes them think they will fare any better in an encounter with him?
I would argue that if a guy has 3000 posts, over 15 reviews, and seems to have a rapport with some of the ladies he has seen here, maybe, just maybe, he is safe. I do think LE will not likely pursue this avenue of running a sting operation for long, their patience will run thin. At the same time, it is possible they might put up with a cop getting a certain level of persona on the board to bust someone.
There is a particular hobbyist out of Austin who has 2 reviews and seems to post a comment on half the reviews here and in Austin. His comment are typically something like " Nice review" or "thanks for the info." I rate that as suspicious. If you compare his 700+ posts to my 3000+ posts, I think you will find that typically my posts provide some information and are not just an attempt to raise my post count. Again, another example of how a lady should approach the data she collects from a guy's onboard persona.
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09-21-2012, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tigercat
NO!
What I am saying is if that is what you are doing, do it intelligently. And a lot of ladies are simply doing that. Don't just look at the number of reviews and number of posts and decide a guy is good to visit with. Go research the fellow. Try to make sure the two of you will be a match. This is part of why we are willing to pay you $200 or more for an hour of your time: We expect you to have some inkling of how to make me happy.
If you read my post here -
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=556704
You will get another side to my same argument. Guy posts that he is having poor luck in having a good time. Immediately, half a dozen ladies say come see me. They don't have a clue if this guy is safe, if he is the problem. Sure, they may screen him somehow, but he doesn't even have any reviews. What makes them think they will fare any better in an encounter with him?
I would argue that if a guy has 3000 posts, over 15 reviews, and seems to have a rapport with some of the ladies he has seen here, maybe, just maybe, he is safe. I do think LE will not likely pursue this avenue of running a sting operation for long, their patience will run thin. At the same time, it is possible they might put up with a cop getting a certain level of persona on the board to bust someone.
There is a particular hobbyist out of Austin who has 2 reviews and seems to post a comment on half the reviews here and in Austin. His comment are typically something like " Nice review" or "thanks for the info." I rate that as suspicious. If you compare his 700+ posts to my 3000+ posts, I think you will find that typically my posts provide some information and are not just an attempt to raise my post count. Again, another example of how a lady should approach the data she collects from a guy's onboard persona.
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I get where you're coming. You're encouraging ladies to dig deeper.
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09-26-2012, 10:46 AM
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Great post! Wish I would have came across this sooner! The given was I knew the power of this site for the Client, but I had NO IDEA until after a few of my posts, the impact it has from a business standpoint for the Provider! Just as the Client should complete their due diligence, the Provider should as well! Their marketing and growth potential could be impacted greatly! Both by what is written from positive and negative reviews. That's the importance of writing a truthful review. There are multiple parties that are affected.
I think if a provider truly views this as a business, before accepting a meeting proposal by any candidate, they should ensure they are a fit, according to the preferences written by the Client. You'll always be able to see a trend...
And if someone is a newbie, even more reason for both the Client and the Provider to be on the same page prior to meeting. Yes, some Providers may have the mindset of "time is money", and feel lead up correspondence should be minimal, but by interacting with a Client first, you can at least TRY to minimize any potential risk of a bad encounter on both ends. Definitely considering this on my 2nd experience!
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09-26-2012, 12:11 PM
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And if someone is a newbie, even more reason for both the Client and the Provider to be on the same page prior to meeting. Yes, some Providers may have the mindset of "time is money", and feel lead up correspondence should be minimal, but by interacting with a Client first, you can at least TRY to minimize any potential risk of a bad encounter on both ends. Definitely considering this on my 2nd experience!
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I would define this as the difference between a PROVIDER and a HOOKER.
I don't want to see this turn into a thread on why ladies charge so much, but the reason I am willing to pay the higher rates here over say BP is exactly that: I expect a PROVIDER to make sure we will have a great time together. That may be making a decision that we are not compatible and not to schedule with me, or it may be doing certain little things during our visit to welcome me into her lair. The time spent preparing for the adventure has to be factored into a lady's overhead and business plan.
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09-26-2012, 08:38 PM
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I agree with Sir Lancelot, I am dum enough without me proving it with my lack of punksuastion and spiling abilitys. I was on P411 for awhile but let it expire because the $89.00 plus could be spent elsewhere for better uses. I don't post much because I really don't have much to say. I have not reviewed because anything I could say had already been said. If I have a good time with a lovely lady, it's her fault, if I have a less than expected time, it's probably my fault. I am rethinking P411 though because someone I wanted to see did not respond to my Emails even though I gave a couple of refs. There I've had my say,
PS: Took me 30 minutes and 3 beers to type all this.
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09-28-2012, 12:06 PM
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I check the reviews to make sure the references provided are legit ladies. I will contact a few of the ladies if he says "look at my reviews". Since some ladies are way more reference friendly and sadly some are not. If I look at his list of reviews, I know which ones may be better to contact.
I also look the the OK's on P411 or the recommendations on Date-check. I also check for white listing on TER if they are posters there.
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09-28-2012, 01:55 PM
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awesomeness. i got tired of watching the tumbleweeds blow through the west texas forum and popped in here. as a relative noob this kind of stuff is very helpful as i work towards establishing myself as a good client. personally, i'd be fine with ros being public. i'm a no bullshit guy and i have no problem with girls seeing how i rate my experiences.
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