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Old 10-09-2013, 08:04 PM   #16
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:42 PM   #17
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Here is an interesting article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true

It is a fascinating read.

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Today, the NRA is the unquestioned leader in the fight against gun control. Yet the organization didn’t always oppose gun regulation. Founded in 1871 by George Wingate and William Church—the latter a former reporter for a newspaper now known for hostility to gun rights, The New York Times—the group first set out to improve American soldiers’ marksmanship. Wingate and Church had fought for the North in the Civil War and been shocked by the poor shooting skills of city-bred Union soldiers.
In the 1920s and ’30s, the NRA was at the forefront of legislative efforts to enact gun control. The organization’s president at the time was Karl T. Frederick, a Princeton- and Harvard-educated lawyer known as “the best shot in America”—a title he earned by winning three gold medals in pistol-shooting at the 1920 Summer Olympic Games. As a special consultant to the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws, Frederick helped draft the Uniform Firearms Act, a model of state-level gun-control legislation. (Since the turn of the century, lawyers and public officials had increasingly sought to standardize the patchwork of state laws. The new measure imposed more order—and, in most cases, far more restrictions.)
Frederick’s model law had three basic elements. The first required that no one carry a concealed handgun in public without a permit from the local police. A permit would be granted only to a “suitable” person with a “proper reason for carrying” a firearm. Second, the law required gun dealers to report to law enforcement every sale of a handgun, in essence creating a registry of small arms. Finally, the law imposed a two-day waiting period on handgun sales. The NRA today condemns every one of these provisions as a burdensome and ineffective infringement on the right to bear arms. Frederick, however, said in 1934 that he did “not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” The NRA’s executive vice president at the time, Milton A. Reckord, told a congressional committee that his organization was “absolutely favorable to reasonable legislation.” According to Frederick, the NRA “sponsored” the Uniform Firearms Act and promoted it nationwide. Highlighting the political strength of the NRA even back then, a 1932 Virginia Law Review article reported that laws requiring a license to carry a concealed weapon were already “in effect in practically every jurisdiction.
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This Barley is and was a better writer than Corny. The "real" cornster.


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Some problems with the article and the OP. The NRA wanted to standardize laws which is not the same thing as being in favor of gun control. As for the others, the "reasonable" gun laws today exceed what the NRA wanted in the 1920s by a large factor. Until recently it was nearly impossible to get a concealed carry permit or a permit to own a weapon which was a defacto gun ban. The SCOTUS said so in the Chicago case when overturning the law. The registration, as this author put it, stayed in the local precinct and did not become part of a federal registration. The two day waiting period has been superceded by the five day, seven day, and ten day waiting period if you can get a permit.

So I don't understand what you were trying to say with that post other than to demostrate how far the gun grabbers have come since 1920 when a man could buy an automatic weapon or sonic supressor legally and with little fanfair.



I must also point out about the OP, 50 years after their founding is not really starting out. Your OP is mistaken.







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Old 06-30-2022, 10:59 PM   #18
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you know JD barleycorn and the new barleycorn are the same???


oh btw the OP of this thread was ExNYer.
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