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Old 11-03-2014, 03:55 PM   #16
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It sounds like you think this election is a referendum on the tax cuts. We will know very soon if the people of Kansas oppose the Brownback tax cuts......

Answer me this: If the tax cuts have been so disastrous, why won’t Mr. Davis (Dem Candidate) pledge to repeal them?

And you do realize that school funding in Kansas is actually at an all-time high. Total per-pupil spending has increased to $12,960 from $12,283 over four years?
No, what we'll know very soon is whether or not the people of Kansas are happy about hundreds and hundreds of million dollars in budget shortfalls that are the direct result of the tax cuts.

Let's face it: Brownback made all sorts of wonderful sounding promises relating to cutting taxes and, like all Republicans, tethered that to a shitload of rosy economic predictions that didn't pan out. In fact, the tax cuts are creating gigantic budget shortfalls. That's why the folks in Kansas are unhappy with him.

Here's some commentary from Kansas newspapers on the education issue. What a surprise, the figure you quote comes from Brownback cooking the books and including spending dollars that do not go to the students.

Topeka — Direct state funding for public schools in Kansas is still nearly 15 percent less than it was before the start of the Great Recession, according t
o a report from the Center for Budget Policies and Priorities, a Washington think tank.
That makes Kansas one of 30 states where K-12 education funding still has not fully recovered, and it ranks fifth in the nation in terms of the percentage size of the cuts out of the 47 states examined.

Measured in inflation-adjusted dollars, the report said per-pupil spending in Kansas is $861 less than it was in 2008, the fourth-largest cut in the nation.

Those cuts, the center said, have slowed those states' economic recovery because school districts, which are major employers in many communities, have not been able to rehire staff who were laid off. The cuts also undermine educational reforms, including new educational standards and new testing systems, that Kansas and other states are trying to implement, the center said
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“At a time when producing workers with high-level technical and analytical skills is increasingly important to a country’s prosperity, large cuts in funding for basic education threaten to undermine the nation’s economic future,” CBPC said in its report.

The Kansas Association of School Boards said those findings echo concerns that it and other school advocates have been raising, and will likely fuel the debate over the tax cuts enacted by Gov. Sam Brownback and the Kansas Legislature.

“If we are falling behind other states in school funding, we must be deeply concerned about falling behind in preparing students for success in postsecondary education and the workforce,” said KASB lobbyist Mark Tallman.

The CBPP analysis looked at “funding distributed through states’ major education funding formulas” and adjusted the figures for inflation. That excludes state funding for capital expenses, bond and interest payments or employee retirement accounts.
The issue of education cuts has been a major bone of contention between Gov. Sam Brownback, who claims that “total” education spending has increased each year of his administration, and his Democratic challenger Paul Davis, who accuses Brownback of making “the largest single cuts to school funding in state history.”

“Kansans don’t need a Washington D.C.-based liberal think tank distorting the truth about education funding in Kansas. They can hear the truth straight from Kansans,” Brownback's press secretary Eileen Hawley said.

Brownback's claim is based on the total spending figures, which include the state's contributions to the Kansas Public Employees Retirement System on behalf of school employees. Davis' claim is based on base state aid to public schools, which makes up each local district's general fund that pays for daily operating expenses.

Kansas began cutting budgets in 2008, under then-Gov. Mark Parkinson, a Democrat, when state revenues began to plummet following the collapse of the financial industry and national housing market that fall. They continued in 2009 after Gov. Sam Brownback, a Republican, took office.

Early in 2009, though, Congress passed a stimulus bill which, among other things, gave financial assistance to state governments to shore up their budgets and prevent them from having to cut programs, particularly in education and Medicaid.

But that money was intended to be only temporary. Congress began phasing out the aid in 2011 and 2012 as the economy improved, expecting states to replace that money as their own revenues recovered.

In Kansas, though, the Brownback administration chose not to replace the federal education aid and, instead, to push for massive income tax cuts that he said would stimulate the economy even more.

The base aid formula was allowed to fall to $3,780 per-pupil in fiscal year 2012. Funding has grown slightly since then and is now set at $3,856.

The Legislature's nonpartisan Research Department now says that because of the tax cuts, the state will likely face a $238 million budget shortfall in fiscal year 2016, which begins next summer.

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Old 11-04-2014, 12:43 AM   #17
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I thought you were in Texas??? Did EVA fill you with shit? Eliminate the illegals from the school system and the budget balances easily. Also (I know you don't want to mention this) but didn't Brownback inherit this from Sibelius. If you accept that from Obama, and you have, then you have to accept it from Brownback and shut your hypocritical mouth. Otherwise, all tax changes take time to work. It's not like TV when they administer a lifesaving drug and the patient (a beautiful woman) sits up and starts fixing her makeup.
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:41 AM   #18
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GW Bush legacy was starting a costly war that had no endpoint.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:35 AM   #19
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And you do realize that school funding in Kansas is actually at an all-time high. Total per-pupil spending has increased to $12,960 from $12,283 over four years?
Not true. Brownback cut funding and then included the state's contribution to KPERS, the employee retirement fund in the education budget when it wasn't part of the budget before.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:19 AM   #20
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I thought you were in Texas??? Did EVA fill you with shit? Eliminate the illegals from the school system and the budget balances easily. Also (I know you don't want to mention this) but didn't Brownback inherit this from Sibelius. If you accept that from Obama, and you have, then you have to accept it from Brownback and shut your hypocritical mouth. Otherwise, all tax changes take time to work. It's not like TV when they administer a lifesaving drug and the patient (a beautiful woman) sits up and starts fixing her makeup.
You're an idiot. A $900,000,000 projected budget shortfall isn't the result of too many students in the system and believe it or not you pathetically stupid asshat, the budget shortfalls just happen to coincide with the tax cuts.....which is because less money was coming in....get it, Admiral?

Back to the shallow end of the pool now with the rest of the 'tards and the little children.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:28 AM   #21
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The $900,000,000 budget "PROJECTED" shortfall is bullshit propaganda. The good voters of Kansas didn't buy the liberal crap spin. They re-elected Brownback, the most conservative Governor Kansas has had in a century.

Why didn't his opponent, who hated the Brownback tax cuts, pledge to roll those disastrous cuts back ?

Because he knew Kansans support Brownback's economy plan. A plan that is working. Kansas has one of the lowest unemployment rates; below 35 of the 50 states. Lower than Texas, Virginia, Florida.
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Old 11-05-2014, 09:48 AM   #22
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"At an unemployment rate of 4.8%, I would say Kansas is doing better than Texas and 35 other states that have higher unemployment and higher taxes. "

You can't compare Kansas to Texas, we're smarter, bigger and more successful and we don't have a personal income tax. Besides, I'va Littleone apparently lives in Kansas, THANK GOD.
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"At an unemployment rate of 4.8%, I would say Kansas is doing better than Texas and 35 other states that have higher unemployment and higher taxes. "

You can't compare Kansas to Texas, we're smarter, bigger and more successful and we don't have a personal income tax. Besides, I'va Littleone apparently lives in Kansas, THANK GOD.
The smart ones live here,plus we don't have as many illegals. Or ass hats. Thank goodness you are in Texas is your green card still current?
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I think if Little Eva moved to Texas the average IQ in both states would go up.
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I think if I moved to Texas the average IQ in both states would go up.
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Old 11-07-2014, 06:54 AM   #26
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So, I think the crash ahead will be huge (again) and whatever party holds the WH will pay dearly.
It will depend a lot on how he/she navigates the crisis.
Might be Hoover, might be FDR.
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