More Evidence Emerges Confirming Covid Lab-Leak Theory, But Corporate Media Stay Silent

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Tell that to the relatives of the more than 1 million people who have died in the U.S. alone due to complications from Covid. I'm sure many who died felt the same as you, which is why they remained unvaccinated when all facts pointed to the shot greatly reducing the chance of hospitalization and/or death from the virus. Most of us who can read statistics understand the risk is greatly reduced today.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...tatracker-home

As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. You don't even know what the hell a virus is and why they cause illness.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Anti Vaxxers are a silly group of selfish pricks. They literally don't understand the science and intent of a vaccine that minimizes the immune response to disease. Scared and stupid and just as likely to be from the flat earth society also.

And there is a part of the problem. I am no longr subject to ddeseases such as Polio, Measles, Mumps and others. I was vsccinated in my youth with genuine vaccines that made me immune to those sand other derious illnesses.

During the Pandemic, we were told by medical experts in government agencies that if we all got vaccinated the Nation's population would achieve "herd immunity' and th pandemic would die out. Out national leaders believed what these medical experts told them, and the power of government was focused on the rapid development, production and dissemination of several so-called vsccines. . . .all paid for, and derly so, by the American pubnlic. We were all encouraged to get the shots so the lock-downs could be lifted send we could again have family gatherings in in for July 4th of 2020.

Turned out the shots were not a vaccine that gave one immunity from disease, but were merely a temporary sort of pre-treatment that might minimize the effects of infection; not prevent infection, not prevent the spread of the disease or much else. They were not actual vaccines, but to save face and resin control, government agencies changed the definition of the word co cover the new blunder drugs with an aura of effectivnss. . . . a strategy right out of the novel, "Animal Farm".

Both President Trump and President Biden were bamboozled by medical bearcats in this, and the public bought it.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

As usual you have no clue what you are talking about. You don't even know what the hell a virus is and why they cause illness.

I do know that the Covid vaccines were VERY successful in preventing Covid and keeping people alive.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I do know that the Covid vaccines were VERY successful in preventing Covid and keeping people alive.

Yeah, sure they do.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

And there is a part of the problem. I am no longr subject to ddeseases such as Polio, Measles, Mumps and others. I was vsccinated in my youth with genuine vaccines that made me immune to those sand other derious illnesses.

During the Pandemic, we were told by medical experts in government agencies that if we all got vaccinated the Nation's population would achieve "herd immunity' and th pandemic would die out. Out national leaders believed what these medical experts told them, and the power of government was focused on the rapid development, production and dissemination of several so-called vsccines. . . .all paid for, and derly so, by the American pubnlic. We were all encouraged to get the shots so the lock-downs could be lifted send we could again have family gatherings in in for July 4th of 2020.

Turned out the shots were not a vaccine that gave one immunity from disease, but were merely a temporary sort of pre-treatment that might minimize the effects of infection; not prevent infection, not prevent the spread of the disease or much else. They were not actual vaccines, but to save face and resin control, government agencies changed the definition of the word co cover the new blunder drugs with an aura of effectivnss. . . . a strategy right out of the novel, "Animal Farm".

Both President Trump and President Biden were bamboozled by medical bearcats in this, and the public bought it.

No, the Covid vaccines did not prevent everyone from contracting Covid. But statistics show it did lower the risk of contracting Covid and most certainly kept people from being hospitalized and dying.

"Some Are Claiming Covid-19 Vaccines Are Not Vaccines"

"The CDC defines a vaccine as, “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.” The Merriam Webster dictionary defines a vaccine as “a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease.” This is basically what the currently available Covid-19 vaccines are designed to do: stimulate your immune system so that it is ready to respond to the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in order to prevent Covid-19. The Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson COvid-19 vaccines get your cells to produce some of the spike proteins that stud the surface of the SARS-CoV-2. These spike proteins in turn trigger your immune system to say, “hey, you don’t belong here. Let’s set up defenses in case something that looks like you comes around.”

I do not have a degree in virology so I depend on other sources to provide me with information on issues related to viruses. You are not one of those sources.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Yeah, sure they do.

Why are Trump supporters so oblivious to FACTS? Can you supply me with any proof that the Covid vaccines did NOT work? No you can't. As you are on most issues, you are wrong.

[Tiny]

Whether the vaccine saved lives is pretty clear cut.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...ination-status

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Why are Trump supporters so oblivious to FACTS? Can you supply me with any proof that the Covid vaccines did NOT work? No you can't. As you are on most issues, you are wrong.

You don't have any previous knowledge of what a virus is or why a person would become ill from a viral infection. So you're just going along with what sounds good.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Why are Trump supporters so oblivious to FACTS? Can you supply me with any proof that the Covid vaccines did NOT work? No you can't. As you are on most issues, you are wrong.

Like Trump, they live in a fantasy bizzarro world where truth and facts do not matter. They have gleefully become little more than noisy Cannon fodder for evil men bent on self enrichment.

Sounds like a cheesy B movie, with a cheesy villain, doesn’t it?

I’d call it science fiction, but as this debate has proven FOR GOING ON FOUR YEARS NOW, MAGA cultists don’t believe in science

[Lucas McCain]

Just curious; have any of you who keep bringing up Covid and the validity of the shots ever even had a vaxx shot for Covid? If not, why the fuck are you bitching about something that you don't even believe in? In case you have not noticed, nobody has ever forced you to take the damn shot.

My job pretty much forces me to be fully boosted. I've never even had a flu shot so I doubt I would have bothered to get one for Covid either if I didn't have to do so. What are some of you folks even whining about? I should be the one whining. I'm fully boosted and not even by choice. I feel so violated with this poison in me. LOL

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I do know that the Covid vaccines were VERY successful in preventing Covid and keeping people alive.

My Wife and I got the shots ASAP because we are in our seventies. Our son and daughter in law (in their 40s) got the shots because they both work with groups in a church setting and in an eructation setting. We masked and sanitized obsessively.

All four of us got sick and tested positive for Covid at one time or another.

It has subsequently been acknowledged by government agencies that the Covid shots did not prevent infection, nor did they prevent spread by asymptomatic individuals. The only benefit of the shots now acknowledged by the authorities is that if you got the shots and later on became infected, the symptoms were less severe.

[ICU 812]

Lucas: It is my view that you should have had the choice to get the shots or not.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Like Trump, they live in a fantasy bizzarro world where truth and facts do not matter. They have gleefully become little more than noisy Cannon fodder for evil men bent on self enrichment.

Sounds like a cheesy B movie, with a cheesy villain, doesn’t it?

I’d call it science fiction, but as this debate has proven FOR GOING ON FOUR YEARS NOW, MAGA cultists don’t believe in science

Proof? I got the shots and got sick (two positive tests).

My wife got the shots and got sick (two positive tests)

Our much younger son and daughter in law got the shots and both got sick with positive tests.

No. that is not an massive double blind study but it is what we lived through.

I do not see how our political philosophy, whether liberal or conservative, bears on how we experienced efficacy of the Covid shots.

[Yssup Rider]

We got all the shots and still got COVID.

As to your point that political leaning has no bearing of “how we experienced efficacy of the COVID shots,” I say read the forum. Read your own posts. Tell me who believes and who denies.

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Lucas: It is my view that you should have had the choice to get the shots or not.

I had a choice. I could have quit. But I have mouths to feed.