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Old 09-19-2022, 07:39 AM   #16
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I'm sure Biden team will reply to the requests but I'm also fairly certain that there is no 'there' there. Biden has been transparent to getting people invested in the current politics du jour, and has been suggesting ppl get out to vote.

While the article was written with the intended agenda of creating a false conclusion of decietful intent, there just isn't anything more than yet another allegation without anything to put a hat on. Meanwhile in red states, the main intent from the right has been to limit access, and put in state referendums allowing state legislators to nullify votes and vote with self selected electoral votes. In states where 90% of the population votes early by ballot, they would like to limit votes to one day and in person. The GOP knows they are limiting voter access and they are totally fine with it. If there is any shenanigans going on they are at the state level without regard to actual vote tabulations. Disgusting that these states would disenfranchise an entire state to remain in power. Despicable and deplorable even.
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:57 AM   #17
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So it was ok to vote in person, short a valid excuse and applied for absentee ballot, for 200+ years but all of the sudden it’s “disgusting”, “despicable” and “deplorable” to run an election the way they have always been. Horseshit, dems only want all these ridiculous ways to vote because it’s easier to cheat.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:15 AM   #18
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I'm sure Biden team will reply to the requests
LOL - really - then why have they ignored every request, breaking the law in doing so. Come on, explain why.

The White House is refusing to share details about its coordinated efforts to engage in a federal takeover of election administration.

Senile Biden really does not want the public to know about his federal takeover of election administration. Dozens of members of Congress have repeatedly asked for details, to no avail. Good government groups, members of the media, and private citizens have filed requests under the Freedom of Information Act. Not a single one has been responded to. All signs indicate a concerted effort to keep the public in the dark until at least after the November midterm elections. The lack of transparency and responsiveness is so bad that the Department of Justice and some of its agencies have been repeatedly sued for the information.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:58 AM   #19
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Your taking the position that the aforementioned article is based in facts and assertions. That may or may NOT be true. I'm sure that if the admin has been presented with legal filings, they will reply. It would be stupid not to. They clearly don't need to cause more distractions like the Maroon a Lagoon raid and while I do agree that they should be transparent, you should agree that articles that assert wrong doing, (despite no proof of it) sells more reads and clicks than another ho-hum day at the office. It seems to me that a lot of right wing publications are all about the conspiracy and very light on the facts. While there may at some time be issues that are born from the requests in the FOIA filings, (supposed), there may be a whole lot of nothing burgers- as is usually the case. Not bolstering the need for change or reform on election laws based on actual facts vs. innuendos.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:07 AM   #20
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Your taking the position that the aforementioned article is based in facts and assertions. That may or may NOT be true.
The article is true. The fact that you are taking the position the article may not be true just shows how much of a lackey you are for Senile Biden.

Why do you continue to lie and protect Senile Biden?

Here is yet another article reporting more facts:

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ng-initiative/

Despite a court-imposed September 8 deadline, the Justice Department has failed to produce its strategic plan to implement President Biden’s directive regarding voter registration and participation.

On March 7, 2021, Biden issued an executive order requiring federal agencies to submit within 200 days their plans to promote voter participation. This directive, EO 14019, was premised on the fiction that “many Americans, including people of color, confront significant obstacles to exercising that fundamental right” (to vote). The Foundation for Government Accountability (FGA), the public-interest group that filed the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking disclosure from the DOJ, says there has been no explanation from Main Justice for its resistance to release relevant documents.

In a lawsuit it filed shortly after the directive, FGA noted the observation of many congressional Republicans that EO 14019 bore a striking resemblance to “a federal election takeover plan crafted by the radical left-leaning group known as Demos.” This plan, the lawmakers said, “called for the weaponization of the DOJ” for the purpose of imposing federal standards on the states. To attempt this in light of the fact that the Constitution essentially commits elections to the states is worrisome enough. But here, Biden is attempting to proceed by federal executive fiat, under circumstances in which the Constitution reserves only to Congress the prerogative of altering states’ election procedures.

This summer, a federal court ordered the Justice Department to respond well in advance of the midterm elections, and imposed a September 8 deadline for the production of documents. FGA reports that DOJ has turned over some heavily redacted documents but has refused to disclose its 15-page strategic plan.

FGO’s Tarren Bragdon asks why DOJ is “treating these documents like they are classified information dealing with nuclear weapons?”

Obviously, given the failure of Democrats — despite control of both congressional chambers — to legislatively enact their attempted federal takeover of elections, Biden–administration officials will try to impose their progressive wish list by lawless executive action. Indeed, they have recently endeavored this in erasing student debt: another policy that lawmakers accountable to voters could not bring themselves to enact.

The Justice Department’s job is to uphold federal election law. It is antithetical to the Justice Department’s duty to participate in a partisan political initiative in favor of some voters over others. Attorney General Merrick Garland owes the public a comprehensive disclosure of any DOJ plan to implement Biden’s dubious executive order.
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:43 PM   #21
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The articles are not true. The facts are twisted and distorted to stir up the reptards. That's the on-going game plan. Lie and twist the truth to stir-up people's fears. Today's republican party.
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Old 09-19-2022, 01:04 PM   #22
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The articles are not true. The facts are twisted and distorted to stir up the reptards. That's the on-going game plan. Lie and twist the truth to stir-up people's fears. Today's republican party.
I love how you and other libtards just ignore reality when the real facts are out there for anyone to see. Do you just enjoy lying? Or perhaps you enjoy being ill-informed? Or can you not even comprehend basic facts?

https://foiaproject.org/case_detail/...&case_id=35040

https://thefga.org/press/fga-files-l...e-order-14019/

https://thefga.org/press/doj-continu...tion-projects/
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Fake radical-rightvwing bullshit
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Old 09-19-2022, 04:21 PM   #24
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The FGA is a right wing Non-profit that has been chasing down things like no medicare or food stamps for the poor. The dude in charge is a a Faux n Felons guest who just blows his ass trumpet on TV about how Dems are bad. Bx2, you continue to propose that these right-wing organizations are providing facts, but I would really question if these are facts or opinions with a hypothesis behind them. Cuz quite honestly, you can assert that many things are wrong, or illegal, but proving them to be so as much more difficult. Here's an excerpt;

The Foundation for Government Accountability (FGA) is a "conservative" American public policy think tank based in Naples, Florida. The nonprofit organization primarily focuses on welfare and health care reform at both the state and federal levels. FGA conducts policy research and its experts recommend free-market policies intended to promote work, reduce dependency, and increase opportunity. The organization was founded in 2011 by Tarren Bragdon, who now serves as FGA's CEO and president. The group's "emphasis on policy messaging and marketing...has differentiated the group from traditional think tanks."the key here is policy messaging and marketing, as that is exactly what you have picked up and put down to be facts. They are in fact, trying to stir controversy on policy and marketing by suggesting commentary of illegalities


That's not to say that there arent points that overlap both parties, but you providing these links, typically just supporting your conservative slant. And by conservative I mean Fox and felons directive rant slant. I've never seen an entire network so devoted to anti-democrat policy, candidates, and outright lies. Quite the joke to watch
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Old 09-19-2022, 04:53 PM   #25
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The FGA is a right wing Non-profit that has been chasing down things like no medicare or food stamps for the poor.
1. So are you disputing that the FGA filed a Freedom of Information Request concerning their plans to implement Senile Biden's Executive regarding voting plans? Yes or No?

2. Are you disputing that the FGA filed a lawsuit against the Senile Biden Administration after several federal executive agencies failed to respond to FGA’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to obtain documents requested in #1 above? Yes or No?

3. Are you disputing that the DOJ did not turn over the specifically requested documents as required by the judge on September 8, and the documents they did turn over were heavily redacted? Yes or No?

4. So are you disputing that the Senile Biden administrations continues to break the law by not responding to any FOI request and the court ruling to provide said documents on the Executive Order on Voting Plans? Yes or No?
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I'm disputing it because of the sources your information is coming from. The websites you got your info from has a history of being very right-wing bias, non factual, misleading, propaganda.

And it's absolutely historical how you can complain about Biden breaking the law and not handing over information.
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I'm disputing it because of the sources your information is coming from. The websites you got your info from has a history of being very right-wing bias, non factual, misleading, propaganda.

And it's absolutely historical how you can complain about Biden breaking the law and not handing over information.
You’re not disputing anything, you make arguments like a six year old. Pull quotes from the article and dispute them with facts that run contrary. That’s how adults do it. They don’t close their eyes, plug their ears and shout NO NO NO NO NO!
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Its amazing to watch some people here just lie and deny reality when the facts are there for all to see.

I mean how pathetic does one have to be to claim an article is false when all the supporting documents prove otherwise and everyone can see you are flat out lying?

Truly Pathetic !!!
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What's truly pathetic is continuing to post articles from websites that have a history of stories that are filled very right-wing bias, non factual, misleading, conspiracy theories, and propaganda. Then find so called supporting documents from the same type of lying bullshit media. It's not factual or reality. It's living in the extreme right-wing conservative false reality world that prays on people's fears, biases, hatred, and insecurities as a way to gets votes to stay in power.

Below is link to a truth in media chart: https://adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/

Some people only get their information and base all their opinions on media that are listed in the "opinion or high variation in reslity", "selective or incomplete story/unfair persuation/propaganda" and/or "contains misleading info or contains fabricated info". Sites like Faux news, especially Hannity and Carlson, bill O'Reilly breitbart, the washington examiner, info wars, the article posted above and the so called supporting documents.
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The FGA filed a FOIA, per your link, and then amended the request and changed attorneys several times. Additionally they had delay from both sides and asked for continuances and mediation to occur. No laws have been broken through the service of requests, and the case is continued. Seems you failed to read the actual court filing status, or just jumped to a 'false conclusion' as per usual. Court cases can be continued for MANY reasons and stamping your feet like a child won't speed any of them up. As I mentioned before, I'm sure the Biden administration will reply or file extensions legally to either comply w the requests, or to position the data as they legally are entitled to do. The FGA is in my opinion selling two piles of crap. First an assertion of un proven facts as yet, and a ruse that the government has not complies with a request. They in fact have and asked for a continuance and for other legal mediations. All very legal and at no time did the FGA object. Funny how now that they put out some public info to the contrary, their story doesn't line up with their court filings. But you likely only hit copy and vomit on the whole story anyway.
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