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Old 08-07-2013, 02:26 PM   #16
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Fuck Putin and fuck the Russians. Putin is nothing but a KGB thug who would shit a purple cow if the United States gave asylum to a Russian citizen who had leaked vital Russian national security information.
Finally someone who gets it. It wasn't a Obama sucks dirty socks post. It was a anti-Snowden post.

Fuck yes Putin would, and I'm going to use this, shit a purple cow! At first I was maybe he was just a whistle blower, but then........he ran to our enemies. The Russians can have him. He deserves white nights and drunks as neighbors for the rest of his life. It just pisses me off to no end that here we are again with Mr. KGB giving asylum to some nobody and giving fresh life to the now traditional enemy. I think Obama was right. Unfortunately, there are going to be a lot of things he's going to do that are right that are going to do nothing but shit can relations with Russia.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:31 PM   #17
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bet Putin doesn't give Snowden a job working for the KGB intel dept.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:32 PM   #18
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bet Putin doesn't give Snowden a job working for the KGB intel dept.
That's no shit. That's ultimately the root cause. I can't believe he passed the army's psych evaluations to even get in let alone to stay.

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That "KGB thug" is making Obama look like a weak little girl and humiliating our once great nation. Reagan would have kicked his ass.
I was a Regan fan, but kicked his ass in what way? Weak was Carter not going to the Olympics because the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. What's Obama supposed to do? Put nukes in Turkey again? I'm not a big fan of Obama - like at all, but it was the right move. Unfortunately, it's going to be the first move in what, I think, could ultimately re-kindle the Cold War. We just don't need that right now. An excuse for a military build up for the Russians would help their economy. Not so good for us. The rest of the Far East is starting to militarize. This is the last thing we or the world needs right now.
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:43 PM   #19
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It was the only move. The Wall Street Journal's editorial staff seems to disagree with our resident right wing whackadoos as well:

>>>>President Obama's decision to cancel his one-on-one meeting with Vladimir Putin in Moscow next month is the right decision—politically, the only one he could make and not look like a patsy. The question is whether this is merely a symbolic rebuke or the beginning of a policy shift that recognizes the Putin regime's hostility to American interests.
The immediate catalyst was Mr. Putin's decision last week to give political asylum to admitted U.S. security leaker Edward Snowden. The former NSA consultant has been charged with multiple violations of U.S. law, and the secrets he stole are still leaking out and damaging U.S. security.
Mr. Obama said on "The Tonight Show" Tuesday that he was "disappointed" by the Snowden asylum, adding that "it's reflective of some underlying challenges that we've had with Russia lately." While "there's still a lot of business that we can do with them," Mr. Obama said, "there have been times where they slip back into Cold War thinking and a Cold War mentality."
White House press secretary Jay Carney elaborated on Wednesday, citing "our lack of progress on issues such as missile defense and arms control, trade and commercial relations, global security issues, and human rights and civil society in the last twelve months."
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Reuters U.S. President Barack Obama meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin during the G8 Summit at Lough Erne in Enniskillen, Northern Ireland in June.



He should have included Russia's military and diplomatic support for Syrian President Bashar Assad, which has exacerbated a civil war that is now breeding thousands of jihadists. All of this is the beginning of foreign-policy realism for Mr. Obama, who has courted Mr. Putin to a fault and ignored his every provocation.
President Obama will still attend the G-20 meeting in Mr. Putin's hometown of St. Petersburg next month, when he would have done better to send Vice President Joe Biden in his place. John Kerry and Chuck Hagel will also sit down Friday in Washington with Russia's foreign and defense ministers. The Kremlin might take comfort from those gestures, expecting the White House to quickly get back to negotiating arms-control treaties and other business as usual.
We hope that won't be the case, and that Mr. Putin begins to understand that there are costs to his anti-American behavior. The Russian boss covets summits with U.S. Presidents and the G-8 to cultivate the domestic illusion that Russia remains a great power. Speaking with reporters Wednesday, Kremlin aide Yury Ushakov pleaded that the Snowden problem was "something that was created not by us" and that the invitation to Mr. Obama remains open. The truth is that Mr. Putin knew exactly what he was doing in protecting Mr. Snowden.
To drive home the message of the canceled summit, Mr. Obama could, among other things, expand the existing U.S. sanctions against Russian human-rights offenders under the Magnitsky Act. He could also speak up about the kangaroo court treatment of opposition leader Alexei Navalny. As long as Mr. Putin's Russia behaves as an adversary of the U.S., Mr. Obama should treat it accordingly.
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Obaminable hyped up this showdown with his over-bite attitude ... and puffed up Snowden in the process. Marginalizing Snowden as a low end trash basket emptier and mail boy, would have been better all the way around. By pushing this thing early on he created an issue out of nothing.

A wimp like Obaminable has no business facing off with Putin. He's gonna lose every time. He just did.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:13 PM   #21
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LL, I'd tend to agree, but with the European's fake outrage that we are spying on them mitigated that tactic. Course The Obama Administration was already acting the hurt-fool and hyping him up. Obama's a smart guy, but he won't let a slight, perceived or otherwise, go. He hasn't figured out the concept of loosing to win.
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:10 PM   #22
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He hasn't figured out the concept of loosing to win.
He's never had to win. He's the product of affirmative action.

This is how he deals with his history. Favors.



As for the Europeans ... they "look" at us, we look at them. Folks get their feelings hurt when it comes out in the open. And speaking of "in the open" ....

stuff like Snowden is supposed to be handled through back channels and off stage ....

... getting in people's face and chest beating ain't the way to go. Unfortunately, it seems, this guy can't recruit anyone with the talent to make Snowden "go away" and become marginal. Like him, they let their egoes get in the way. Also, I think they needed a diversion.

Old man Bush was probably the last guy in this country to know Putin well enough to pick up the phone and make this right. There is another one floating around, but he is a little starchy and nerdy. He has the goods on Putin, but not like Bush One.
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:42 PM   #23
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Holy cow , why Obama did not choose one of you clowns as Secretary of States is beyond me!
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Old 08-07-2013, 05:46 PM   #24
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Fuck Putin and fuck the Russians. Putin is nothing but a KGB thug who would shit a purple cow if the United States gave asylum to a Russian citizen who had leaked vital Russian national security information.
When he did not know the mike was on he told the Russian official he was sitting with "Tell Vlad that after the election I'll have alot more flexabillity"
The guy is a total fucking joke and an imbaresment to the United States.
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imbaresment to the United States.
Classic!
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:08 PM   #26
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Holy cow , why Obama did not choose one of you clowns as Secretary of States is beyond me!
He had another "clown" in mind ...



May be you like this pose better ... more fitting for your type of guy ...



Sorry, BT, the devil made me do it.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:24 PM   #27
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Holy cow , why Obama did not choose one of you clowns as Secretary of States is beyond me!
A fair question with an obvious answer!
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:27 PM   #28
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A fair question with an obvious answer!
Yea. There's no such position as .. "Secretary of States" .. even Obaminable knows that!
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:49 PM   #29
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Classic!
To be fair English is a second language in La. Also, La is the only state to model their laws after the Code Napoleon. It's the asshole of the Mississippi River. All the runoff from the Canadian border South ....the animal waste, pesticides, and fertilizer, ends up in Louisiana.
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