Never drag queens..

[HDGristle]

Who in this thread has specifically stated they're ok with sexualized drag shows for kids?

No one.

But that wasn't what the point was to begin with. Yet people keep charging that hill regardless as the context for overreach.

[RegeCordick]

It's odd that anything that isn't bread n butter sex is considered to be Leftist. One could consider that hooker board isn't in the 'normal lane' of sexuality and that too must be in some eyes here- yet again leftist ideology. Acceptance of non violent groups is likely a norm for average Americans on either partisan side, but it's odd that ppl on the conservative side are throwing stones while being on this glass house forum.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Loretta77

It seems like some of you want to desperately support drag for some reason.

Oh I think we can surmise the reason

[Loretta77]

HD... The reason anyone gives a rat's ass about drag is because they're fighting tooth and nail to perform in front of children. Read legislature involving drag bans. Nowhere does it say it's illegal, unless it's sexual, then it's illegal in front of minors. Anyone who opposes that is a creep. Plain and simple. And before anyone tries to compare it to a dirty priest, I don't support creepy priests either.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Loretta77

HD... The reason anyone gives a rat's ass about drag is because they're fighting tooth and nail to perform in front of children. Read legislature involving drag bans. Nowhere does it say it's illegal, unless it's sexual, then it's illegal in front of minors. Anyone who opposes that is a creep. Plain and simple. And before anyone tries to compare it to a dirty priest, I don't support creepy priests either.

Exactly. That's what this is all about. Not sure why the leftists here can't be honest about it

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Loretta77

HD... The reason anyone gives a rat's ass about drag is because they're fighting tooth and nail to perform in front of children. Read legislature involving drag bans. Nowhere does it say it's illegal, unless it's sexual, then it's illegal in front of minors. Anyone who opposes that is a creep. Plain and simple. And before anyone tries to compare it to a dirty priest, I don't support creepy priests either.

Sexualized drag isn't ok in front of kids. Drag Queen and Drag King storytime at a library can be more docile and non-sexual than Sunday school. In fact, there's a church in FL that has drag performers cover Bible stories. But some folks can't separate that from being sexualized, similar to what they consider is or is not pornography.

The question is about content and context.

Assuming that all drag, drag performances and content is sexual is where the mistake occurs... or perhapa intentional pretext in some cases.

Which, when used as a pretext to otherize is a distraction from the real problems facing society, because it's a convenient smear. Ask the guy in this thread who uses convenient smears and otherization on a daily basis. He can't help himself.

It's also cute, but mostly sad, to watch conservatives clutch their Bibles and pearls while being as unchristian to their neighbor as can be and failing to live up to the lessons within it from JC himself.

[Jacuzzme]

Exactly. That's what this is all about. Not sure why the leftists here can't be honest about it

Totally agree. Drag used to be funny. Guys dressing up with Dolly Parton tits and prancing around in gay bars. Nobody gave a shit, if that’s your kink have at it.

All the sudden, some how, some way, and not very long ago, it turned into a freakish in your face cult. The pronoun crap, telling kids they can be the opposite sex, men can have babies, men in women’s bathrooms and sports teams, drugging and chopping up teenagers, yada fuckin yada. The Minnesota Governor had a SIX YEAR OLD “trans girl” at the podium the other day. Straight up child abuse. Those parents should be burnt at the stake.

@ HD
No, drag queen story hour for kids is NOT ok. Drag is a sex kink, exposing kids to it is disgusting. Should there be a chicks who like it in the ass story hour? I think not, and it’s the exact same thing.

[HDGristle]

See, Loretta? This little microcosm of drag = kink, plus advocating violence after a blatant conflation is exactly what many are concerned by.

The easy smear, the easy distraction and the justification to otherize and dehumanize as a means of rationalizing transphobia using drag as an excuse.

This is what having conversations at the extremes does

[onawbtngr546]

For everyone who says "Drag queens are sexualized and are far too explicit for children to see!"


Ok... I don't deny that. Not in the slightest.


However, "The internet has far too much sexual content that is far too explicit for children to see!"


So, why do some of you folks want to regulate drag and not porn on the internet? As far as I'm concerned, they are both in the same boat of 'children shouldn't see it', but also share the fact that 'parents shouldn't let their kids see it'




It sounds like to me, republicans are heavy in the idea of government control when it does something for them that they don't want to do.


Think drag is lewd? Don't take your kid to a drag show.
Think porn is lewd? Don't let your kid visit porn sites.



Nobody is saying 'BAN THE INTERNET IT HAS PORN'.. well except for some utterly moronic states where you now need your government ID to go to pornhub. Got to love all the freedom you have, what with needing to tell Uncle Sam whenever you need to bust a nut.



Just don't let kids go to drag shows. Be a parent, do the stuff that you are too lazy to do. Don't petition the government to do it for you, then scream when people petition the government to do things that actually benefit society as a whole.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

See, Loretta? This little microcosm of drag = kink, plus advocating violence after a blatant conflation is exactly what many are concerned by.

I advocated violence against the ~parents~, not to mention the statement is a figure of speech. The kid is 6 years old. Someone that age has no clue about sex or sexuality. They’re being pushed into something by a mom and dad who want to wear a “trans” kid as a fashion accessory, like one of those little dogs women carry around in their purse. It’s virtue signaling in the worst way, Munchausen's syndrome by proxy. They fuck up their own kid’s life to up their own woke credentials, throw him/her into a lifestyle that has a better chance than not of ending swinging from a rope.

The easy smear, the easy distraction and the justification to otherize and dehumanize as a means of rationalizing transphobia using drag as an excuse.

There’s no such thing as a “trans” person, you can’t change your gender, and I’m certainly not afraid of someone who thinks they can. In fact, my stance is one of compassion. Someone sucked into this nonsense needs to get the mental health services they need. If someone tries convincing me that they’re a fire hydrant, I don’t have my dog piss on their leg. It’d be much more to their benefit to advise them to seek counseling. Same goes for a “trans” person, feeding their delusion does them no good.

[Loretta77]

Very great points jacuzzme. And for the leftist guy, yeah I hear your typical gotcha leftist response.. yeah people who want less government asking for government intervention... But when it comes to sexualizing and indoctrinating children, I support very strict policies to save children from their idiotic parents. I'll be a hypocrite

[Jacuzzme]

Nobody is saying 'BAN THE INTERNET IT HAS PORN'.. well except for some utterly moronic states where you now need your government ID to go to pornhub. Got to love all the freedom you have, what with needing to tell Uncle Sam whenever you need to bust a nut.

Same thing as not letting someone underaged buy a playboy. We’d always have to steal one off someone whose dad got it just for the articles. Short of that, it was the Intimate Apparel section of the JC Penny catalog. I find nothing at all wrong with society having standards of decency, especially when kids are involved.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Sexualized drag isn't ok in front of kids. Drag Queen and Drag King storytime at a library can be more docile and non-sexual than Sunday school. In fact, there's a church in FL that has drag performers cover Bible stories. But some folks can't separate that from being sexualized, similar to what they consider is or is not pornography.

The question is about content and context.

Assuming that all drag, drag performances and content is sexual is where the mistake occurs... or perhapa intentional pretext in some cases.

Which, when used as a pretext to otherize is a distraction from the real problems facing society, because it's a convenient smear. Ask the guy in this thread who uses convenient smears and otherization on a daily basis. He can't help himself.

It's also cute, but mostly sad, to watch conservatives clutch their Bibles and pearls while being as unchristian to their neighbor as can be and failing to live up to the lessons within it from JC himself.

As far as I know, none of my neighbors are drag queens. Well, there hasn’t been any drag shows that I know off in my community. But there is a lesbian couple close by. They don’t bother anyone. They just live their lives. They might even be Christians?

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Loretta77

Very great points jacuzzme. And for the leftist guy, yeah I hear your typical gotcha leftist response.. yeah people who want less government asking for government intervention... But when it comes to sexualizing and indoctrinating children, I support very strict policies to save children from their idiotic parents. I'll be a hypocrite

Is a drag performer tastefully dressed as Snow White or Little Bo Peep and reading Curious George to kids sexualizing and indoctrinating?

Let's switch it up and have a drag performer dressed as Abraham Lincoln. Same question.

[Loretta77]

HD if that were the case, absolutely not. I'd leave it up to the parents. It shouldn't be illegal. Personally I'd not support it ever. I actually despise drag to the core.