Any providers take self defense classes?

[Eklutna]

Try http://www.kravmagadfw.com/ - 2 locations in the Dallas area. The more advanced levels teach how to disarm someone with a knife or gun. It is a great workout and the repetition will make the skills second nature. They teach you how to fight to win, not to play by a bunch of wimpy rules.

[Guest030617]

why im licensed to carry a 9......a bullet packs a meanier punch than a fist!!

[all_me]

I would have to agree with Eklutna on this. I have done MMA and many other combat style sports, but they are just that sports. It will definitely help, but the problem is they have weight classes for a reason. Something like Krav maga or a true self defense class is going to be more effective for self defense. (different techniques like eye gouging etc) I am also all for carrying guns as well, but in the situations you ladies could be in the hard part is going to be getting to the gun, getting it out, and firing before getting over powered or worse. Being a fan of overkill I would say a combination of these things is the best answer when screening and good common sense fails. Ladies be safe out there.

Best wishes,
all_me

[~Ze~]

Tryina figure out who to avoid? *wink*

[LuckJack]

Very important for you ladies to be able to defend yourself, in or out of the hobby. I don't want to blame NOW or feminism in general but I see a lot more male hostility toward women than in my younger years. One very big caution: The abuse of Viagra and the use of date rate drugs is a big problem in the real world and THE HOBBY. I have two very dear provider friends that have been dosed with G and hurt, one was raped for multiple hours. You can not defend yourself if you are drugged so be very careful. Personally, I had no idea that some use it recreationaly, a few years ago two providers and I went back to my hotel room after a social for an afterparty. We were drinking heavily and one passed a bottle around, we both took a drink and then she said it was G. We both were completely incapacitated, if they was any ill intend we would have been in trouble.

"GHB is popular because "Victims may not be aware that they ingested a drug at all. GHB and its analogues are invisible when dissolved in water, and is odorless. It is somewhat salty tasting, but are indiscernible when dissolved in beverages such as sodas, liquor, or beer. Also, GBL can pass through the skin so the flavor is irrelevant. In some cases, GBL has been allegedly administered by applying it to jewelry that is designed to break (presumably to prevent overdose)."

[~Ze~]

Very good information LJ.

BTW- You know those little annoying plastic caps on top of the water bottle spouts (the ones you throw away before you drink)

A girl only needs to ingest 1 or those (of GHB) to be in serious trouble... it takes very little of it to harm someone..

ALWAYS keep an eye on your drink, and never take something from someone if it has been opened.

[Theprofessional]

Traci if you wanna learn combative self defense you should contact me. No this isnt a joke.
My resume will speak for itself on the subject.
Might work out a trade.

[guest071811-3]

My S.O is a certified safety instructor with 25yrs spent in the martial arts, certified child safety instructor, S.H.A.R.P (sexual harrassment and rape prevention) instructor, ground fighting certified, knife self defense instructor..etc etc etc..

I myself have spent the last 15yrs in martial arts..

1 thing is for sure.. kicks and punches aka TAEKWONDO is alot more effective than trying to wrestle with a man who will outweight many many girls here.. to rely on "situational" training where the guy attacking you isn't really trying to hurt you and you have the safety valve of a "tap" and an instructor there to help you is quite foolish..

Do i want to be comfortable in a situation where a guy now has me pinned? yes.. do i want to assume that a few classes here and there or "situational" controlled training is gonna keep me safe therefore i will be ok..ABSOLUTELY NOT!!

kicks are much more powerful and keep my attacker at a distance, i want to create space, kick, kick and kick some more.. i don't want to punch it out with a grown man, nor do i want that same man to get close enough to me to grab me.. if the attack happens while he is near me.. on top of me..fucking me etc.. then i still want to make it my first priority to GET AWAY FROM HIM..create distance where i can better make decisions of the situations, weapons available..the longer i keep him close to me attempting triangle chokes and arm bars is just that much longer i have to deal with him.. its that much longer that a bigger and stronger man is near me and may have the opportunity to use his power against me.. realize a triangle choke is nice..until you are slammed violently on the hard hotel floor.. realize that an armbar is great until the guy punches you in the nose.. once again..thats why "situational" training and instructors simply putting money in their pockets to bullshit some ladies into thinking this is gonna be a lifesaver is shitty of them..

fact is.. being attacked and getting out of it is merely determining how much more violent you are willing to be over the attacker.. what am i willing to do to protect myself.. and the best thing to do is create distance where now if he wants to continue to come at you..you have space.. you have room to make decisions..possibly head for the door.. use the strongest muscles on your body..YOUR LEGS.. and keep him at a distance..know where to kick.. "situational" corporation mma is not practical.. krav maga.. HAGNAH, F.I.G.H.T or any other isreali etc fight system is just that..a system.. facts are you train in a controlled enviroment with safety valves in place.. in the real world..when the guy punches you in the face you can't tap.. when the guy holds you down and you start to fight back its at that time you have now engaged him..are you willing to be more violent than him? do you wanna fight from your back? relying on a chance you lock on a hold that guys that train for years and get paid millions have a hard time locking on.. and even still mma has rules.. martial arts schools have rules....

I would much rather create distance..run, scream...

no matter the age..my husband teaches kids, ladies, businessmen.. to be aware of your surroundings..know your escape routes..know where you have usable weapons..

most of all..scream and make tons of noise..try to get away as that is your best bet..the attacker has a plan..he has done this before..he is a violent person..the attackee if you will..is not expecting it.. is taken by suprise and most likely as a kid or woman..you will be at a disadvantage both in strength and size..

create distance..go after stuff that hurts..I.E A GUY WHO'S ADRENELINE IS RACING.. may not feel a swift kick in the balls.. knees, face, eyes, a quick pull of the ear upwards..not downwards and it will RIP off.. a shot to the nose makes eyes water..

in any event..none of this is ment to stand there and try to fight the guy..merely give the attackee time to get away and seek help..not "whip his ass"

[Chig232]

Shit that's 5 times I tried to respond to this without going off on a tangent because of what DeAnna Luv posted. She did however have one VERY valid point. Don't take a Class to learn how to fight a man, that's crazy. Take a class on how to get out of any situation quickly.

Do your research, ask lots of questions and make your own decision. I have 25 years fighting experience and in several disciplines including Taekwondo, Karate, Jiu Jitsu, Krav Maga, and many others variations

So if you would like my opinion send me a PM and I'll fill you in on any questions as best I can.

DeAnna Luv you can send me a PM to debate this as well if you like hun, but I refuse to turn this good thread into a fight about whos discipline is better.

Hope I don't piss anyone off with this post... Just want you girls to be safe. Because I Luv All Women

[Lust4xxxLife]

Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv

in any event..none of this is ment to stand there and try to fight the guy..merely give the attackee time to get away and seek help..not "whip his ass"

I'm another guy who is trained in a couple of the arts and spent a few years seeking out opportunities to practice them.

DeAnna's point above is critical for people to understand. MOST self-defense training is focused on how to best your opponent... how to 'win'. Unless you have years to invest and are willing to complement it with a rigorous training program that is not your best bet.

Competitive combat is great but it has nothing to do with real-world attack situations. Your number one goal when facing a bigger and stronger attacker is to escape, NOT to engage. If you engage because you have no choice, the purpose is to stun or incapacitate so that you can escape. The best training will teach you how to use the items in your vicinity as stun weapons. It will also teach you and condition you to maim without hesitation.

I hate that the wonderful providers in this hobby have to worry about douchebags that would do them harm, but that's reality. I worry about all of you!

[QueenSophie]

Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

I hate that the wonderful providers in this hobby have to worry about douche bags that would do them harm, but that's reality.

Reality????

Every day life is "reality" no matter a provider or an every day Joe Schmo Leave it to Beaver Brady Bunch kinda gal/guy.

Providers are "women" in general just as hobbyist are "men" in general. The only difference is being a provider or a hobbyist is the fact that "we" put ourselves out there more so than the average male/female in " Brady Bunch Leave it to Beaver" kinda people.

There are douche bags every where you turn, look, walk, drive, bump into in the check out lane at the Grocery store, etc etc...its how "we" as "providers/hobbyists" weed them out and can pick up on certain characteristics that the normal "Leave it to Beaver Brady Bunch" family guy's n gal's would not....

Me? How do I protect Me??? I'm Italian. It's in my blood. If that fails? It's in the "Family".

BUT I do appreciate your concern, none the less...thank you.

[guest071811-3]

Exactly my point.. anyone training to engage rather than escape is playing with fire..

the goal in any self defense situation is to get away from the attacker, use your best weapons more effectively than the attacker is using theirs..

armbars, triangle chokes and any tactic that etches the thought to stand there and continue to strike and "beat up" the attacker is very very decieving..

understand the goal of "corporate" martial arts is to make people feel empowered..thats what keeps students coming back, keeps students paying..is they are manipulating your need to feel POWERFUL against others and not feel like you have to "get away" but that what they are and will teach you in the future will save you.. its the way they grow their school and keep you paying and coming back..

there is no tap, no instructor, the attacker will take many many means to get what he wants.. there is no simulation for this..as is classic with many immature martial artist..they wanna argue about which style is better..

facts are facts..if you wanna do corporate martial arts..any style that empowers you and makes you feel safer is perfect for you. facts are facts though.. the closer the opponent the more you are at risk.. the ladies legs, kicks, knees are there strongest muscles to be used in combat and create distance..distance to get away, distance to get other weapons.. not hold a 250lb attacker close to me in hopes of locking on a hold that i learned last month and practiced for a few hours..

remember..the person you train with in class..isn't trying to hurt you..if its a more advanced student its their goal to make you feel like you are succeeding so you will..YES COME BACK TO CLASS..

Knowledge is power..and yes there is a need to "know" stuff.. but never put your eggs in one basket..people spend years and years training and its still not 100%.. its great to walk with confidence.. but i would much rather focus on maximizing my ability to GET AWAY rather than fighting.. punching, grappling, engaging more than i need to with my attacker is quite foolish and often leads to less than desirable results.. any person in a self defense situation nees to realize the #1 goal is to GET AWAY..if that means that i spit in the guys eye and it distracts him enough thats fine with me.. if it means i bite him..thats fine with me.. i do not want to duke it out, i do not want to hold him against me..i do not want to engage with the bigger, stronger, angrier attacker longer than I have to.

Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

I'm another guy who is trained in a couple of the arts and spent a few years seeking out opportunities to practice them.

DeAnna's point above is critical for people to understand. MOST self-defense training is focused on how to best your opponent... how to 'win'. Unless you have years to invest and are willing to complement it with a rigorous training program that is not your best bet.

Competitive combat is great but it has nothing to do with real-world attack situations. Your number one goal when facing a bigger and stronger attacker is to escape, NOT to engage. If you engage because you have no choice, the purpose is to stun or incapacitate so that you can escape. The best training will teach you how to use the items in your vicinity as stun weapons. It will also teach you and condition you to maim without hesitation.

I hate that the wonderful providers in this hobby have to worry about douchebags that would do them harm, but that's reality. I worry about all of you!

[Tara Evans]

I've never taken any classes but want to . My mom has always told me just kick him where it hurts.

[LuckJack]

Sweetie, kicking a man in the groin is a hard thing to do, kinda nature defenses. Stomp as hard as you can on his foot.

[Tara Evans]

Originally Posted by LuckJack

Sweetie, kicking a man in the groin is a hard thing to do, kinda nature defenses. Stomp as hard as you can on his foot.

Will do!