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Old 02-23-2020, 07:36 PM   #16
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better yet, why do libtards use Nazi analogies that don't fit?
When they do fit, it's like a glove. Just ask The_Wack_Kid (a.k.a. Swastika boy).
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Old 02-23-2020, 07:39 PM   #17
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When they do fit, it's like a glove. Just ask The_Wack_Kid (a.k.a. Swastika boy).

if yous say so

just remember that even Nazis have the right to free speech on a whore board in Trump's America.







BAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAAAAA
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:23 PM   #18
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Good riposte', TWK
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:24 PM   #19
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just remember that even Nazis have the right to free speech on a whore board in Trump's America.


As do I, sir.

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It was a landslide. Bernie Sanders had been expected to win the Nevada caucuses, but not like this. With just 4% of the vote in, news organizations called the race for Sanders, since his margin of victory was so large. Sanders has now won the popular vote in all of the first three states, and is currently leading in the polls almost everywhere else in the country. He was already the favorite to take the nomination before the Nevada contest, with Democratic party insiders worrying he was “unstoppable.” His campaign will only grow more powerful now.

Importantly, Sanders’ Nevada victory definitively disproved one of the most enduring myths about his campaign: that it could attract left-leaning young white people, but was incapable of drawing in a diverse coalition. In fact, voters of color were a primary source of Sanders’ strength in Nevada; he received the majority of Latino votes. Entrance polls showed Sanders winning “men and women, whites and Latinos, voters 17-29, 30-44 and 45-65, those with college degrees and those without, liberal Democrats (by a lot) and moderate/conservatives (narrowly), union and non-union households.” The poisonous concept of the white “Bernie Bro” as the “typical” Sanders supporter should be dead.

Some members of the media establishment had no idea what to make of Sanders’ Nevada victory. On MSNBC, James Carville said that “Putin” had won Nevada, and Chris Matthews declared the primary “over” (ill-advisedly comparing Sanders’ victory to the Nazi invasion of France). Jennifer Rubin of the Washington Post admitted that Sanders had been stronger with nonwhite voters than she expected, and it might now be “too late” to do anything about him.


The other candidates and their supporters did their best to spin a humiliating defeat. Amy Klobuchar said her sixth-place finish “exceeded expectations”—if sixth place is better than you expected, you’re probably not a viable candidate. Biden vowed, implausibly (and for the third time) that he would bounce back. Pete Buttigieg took to the stage to denounce Sanders, who he said “believes in an inflexible, ideological revolution that leaves out most Democrats, not to mention most Americans.” A Warren supporter rather charmingly said that while Sanders had won, Warren had the “momentum,” and the Warren campaign itself said the Nevada “debate” mattered more than the Nevada “result.”

Let’s be clear: the other candidates were crushed, and Nevada was yet more evidence that there is no longer much serious opposition to Sanders. Michael Bloomberg fizzled completely in his big debut, and Democrats would be out of their minds to enrage every Sanders supporter by nominating a Republican billionaire. Joe Biden has lost badly in all of the first three contests, and it’s very clear that he can’t run an effective campaign. Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has nearly gone broke and in desperation she has resorted to relying on the Super PACs that she previously shunned. Pete Buttigieg can’t win voters of color or young people (and has accurately been described as sounding like “a neural network trained on West Wing episodes”). As Matthews says: it’s over. Bernie is dominating the fundraising, dominating the polls, and winning every primary. I am not sure Jacobin is right that “it’s Bernie’s party now”—for one thing, virtually the entire Congressional Democratic party is still opposed to Bernie. But it’s certainly Bernie’s nomination. There is simply no other credible candidate.

Democrats shouldn’t worry, though: Bernie has a strong organization and a lot of money, and can mobilize millions of people to support him in November. He’s exactly the kind of candidate you should want your party to have. And for all the fear of his “radicalism,” he’s really a moderate: his signature policies are a national health insurance program, a living wage, free public higher education, and a serious green energy investment plan. It’s shocking that there is such opposition to such sensible plans. On what planet are these things so politically toxic that Democrats are afraid to run on them? Voters like these ideas, and so long as Democrats unify behind Bernie rather than continuing to try to tear him down, they will have a very good shot at defeating a radical and unhinged president like Donald Trump. The polling looks good for Bernie in November, so now we just need to get this primary over with and focus on the real fight. The other candidates had their shot: they lost. They need to accept it.

One other takeaway from Nevada is that no future election should occur without significant reform to the caucus process. Nevada wasn’t an outright catastrophe like Iowa was—at least we got results on election night. But it was still plagued with “voting rules confusion, calculation glitches and delays in reporting tallies.” And the caucus process can be downright bizarre: tied results in the Las Vegas caucuses are resolved with a card game, and at one point Sanders lost a delegate to Pete Buttigieg because the Sanders team pulled an Ace and Buttigieg pulled a 3. (Aces were low.) From the electoral college to the Iowa caucus, American elections desperately need to reworked from the bottom up according to the simple principle “the person with the most votes ought to win.”

And yet caucuses also produce some truly inspiring on-the-ground stories, from the cab driver who spoke up for Bernie and kept billionaire Tom Steyer from being viable to the guy who switched from Trump to Bernie because he was convinced socialists were good people. Ordinary people gave incredible speeches as part of the caucus process—one reason why it should be fixed rather than ditched entirely. Members of the Culinary Union, whose leadership had prominently opposed Sanders over Medicare For All, ended up defying their leaders and pushing Sanders to victory at a number of caucus sites.

All in all, Nevada was an inspiring moment for American democracy, proof that ordinary working people of all races and incomes and genders can come together around a robust progressive agenda. Democrats need not worry: this is a good thing. It’s a night to be celebrated. The primary is not completely over, but hopefully it is now clear to every sensible observer that Bernie is cruising toward the nomination and needs to be supported rather than torn down.
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:43 PM   #20
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Take a note from your Pete B - who notes Sanders is a "rigid ideologue" and a danger to America.

But, please, vote Bernie in your primary.

I surely will!!!
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Old 02-23-2020, 08:55 PM   #21
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As do I, sir.



impressive! he's won 3 states. how will he do in the other 54?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:00 PM   #22
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Fascist DPST Socialist party members are better than anything at accusing others of exactly their own actions/intentions.
That's exactly right.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:05 PM   #23
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Did they?

Or did yous eat them, you quivering tub of lards?


Looks like you lost a few pounds in that picture. Don't let it go to your head though, you're still fucking fat. Ya look like Ralph Kramden getting ready to go on his morning bus route, lol.
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Old 02-23-2020, 10:26 PM   #24
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hmm. it appears that bernie has trumped the democrats.


we will see a replay of the what happened in 2016 with the republican party supporting trump as with the democratic party supporting bernie?
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:32 AM   #25
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Bernie will not be elected if the republicans bring out his rigid ideology - he is a hard core communist of the Maduro Venezuela ilk - as is his consort AOC.

Vast majority of america is not comfortable with all Bernie's free stuff - and no way to pay, and an authoritarian mode of governing - my way or the re-education camps way.

He will not take the election - despite the ground swell of young People who want free stuff dropped off by amazon.
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Old 02-24-2020, 07:43 AM   #26
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Bernie will not be elected if the republicans bring out his rigid ideology - he is a hard core communist of the Maduro Venezuela ilk - as is his consort AOC.

Vast majority of america is not comfortable with all Bernie's free stuff - and no way to pay, and an authoritarian mode of governing - my way or the re-education camps way.

He will not take the election - despite the ground swell of young People who want free stuff dropped off by amazon.
I have to say, at least bernie isn't a hypocrite in how he got rich

bernie got rich, not by the capitalist method, supplying things people want and need to the masses

but by the tried and true socialist/communist, stalin, putin, hugo chavez, the castro family, and the lbj, hellary, biden dimocrat method, the abusing of election laws and your elected office
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Agreed - and bernie wants to take all wealth from billionaires to level the economic playing field - which in reality will just destroy the economy for all.

Bernie is clueless and in denial as to the consequences of his political socialist Communist ideology.

But, propose leveling the wealth of all millionaires - watch him scream bloody murder in protest.

On that he is a hypocrite - he ain't givin' up one penny to feed his "free stuff" horde of locusts.
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Yup and that's the best they can do just saying (Nazi) is what they real are , just look to history
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I awaits your essay on that subject, giggles!
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Bernie will not be elected if the republicans bring out his rigid ideology - he is a hard core communist of the Maduro Venezuela ilk - as is his consort AOC.

Vast majority of america is not comfortable with all Bernie's free stuff - and no way to pay, and an authoritarian mode of governing - my way or the re-education camps way.

He will not take the election - despite the ground swell of young People who want free stuff dropped off by amazon.
It appears that Bernie is leading the pack because he has support from a small sector of voters that believe in Socialism. Democratic voters outside the Socialist realm are divided among the remaining candidates. If Bernie gets nominated he just won't get enough support from conventional Democratic voters. America isn't a Socialist country and even most hardcore Liberals know better that to trust Socialism, it's not worth taking a chance at.
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