Help me to understand this!!!!

[pmdelites]

unless one poles, errr, polls a large # of adult escorts/providers and finds out why they charge what they charge for their time,
any speculations/thoughts are just that.

there generally is no logic, prolly other than "well, that's what my friend told me", or "that's the rate i see others charging", or "let's see what i can vacuum out of these chumps."


so, my suggestions : ¹) forget with the wondering why. 2) focus your energy on finding an adult provider type you wanna spend time with and one whose fee you can afford - and then go visit her.

[gentlemanrogue]

What I am seeing the the providers are charging by the pound. I see very few fit providers and more and more women out there with rear ends twice the size of the Kardashian clan.
So tons of women on tryst for $400 per hour but they are huge with no discernable hip to waist curves.

[secondHandNews]

Perhaps what Financeman was trying to ask was less about "Ladies, why are you charging so much?" and more about "Guys, why are you paying so much?" In other words, what is the perceived value that you are receiving from a provider who charges $400 or more versus one who charges $300? That perceived value will vary, of course, from client to client, and I think he was asking those guys to explain what they personally get from a higher-cost provider that they can't get from a lower-cost one.

In my case, I've only ever paid a provider $400 once. Up to that point, I had never been with a woman who squirted. I did the research, reading reviews here and elsewhere, to find someone who at least had some history of the activity. There were very few at a $300 price point, but I did eventually find one and booked an appointment. Alas, she didn't squirt with me. Thinking that she and I didn't have the right connection, I decided to try with someone else. That someone charged $400 and this time we did have the right connection. The point is, I wanted to experience something I had never done before, and in my view, the cost was worth the experience.

[texassapper]

86,000 millionaires in Dallas.... folks can afford it.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by texassapper

86,000 millionaires in Dallas.... folks can afford it.

Well, let's see.

How many of those 86,000 millionaires are ladies? Then, subtract the guys who do not participate in the hobby. What is left?

Not much. Besides, I am pretty sure the millionaire hobbyists are millionaires because while they were making their millions, they did not pay $1000+ for an hour with a hooker. So, even while they may be able to afford it now, that does not mean they are willing to pay it.

Again I say, even if you can afford it, no pussy is worth $400-500 or more for a single hour of time!

[Grace Preston]

To you-- that may be true. For others, that may not be true. Everyone is looking for something different.

These conversations never cease to amuse me. Everyone is always so concerned about what others spend their money on.

I remember when I first got started-- there was a lady who charged 12k for the weekend-- and that was her minimum offering. There was a well known BBW who charged 1k per hour. And we're talking back in 2008-2009. There are guys who go to Nevada and lay down thousands at the brothels multiple times per year just for the experience of it. It is what it is.

I have the same visceral reaction when I see people spending $700 on a pair of shoes. I would never. I just don't get it. But others have a shoe wardrobe that would pay for my vehicle.

I've seen people make harsh and horrid judgments about ladies who charge lower rates in this industry (I used to be one of them-- I've heard some interesting rumors about myself that came out of nothing other than the fact that I simply didn't charge sky high rates).

There really is no winning with rates. Subsets of people are going to find something to complain about no matter what you set your rate at so the best bet is simply to do what works for you. Ladies-- charge what you want to charge and what brings you the business and cash flow you require. Gents-- seek out the ladies that you can afford at a rate that you feel is reasonable for you.

[BigOffshoreDaddy]

My biggest thing is ROI.

If I'm spending 4, 5, 6, 700 it more with a provider, I better get getting what I'm paying for. As I've heard it said "To much is given, much is expected." A provider charging premium prices with a limited menu - and we've all seen it - is nothing more than a high priced version you can get from LC for 200 with the same list of nos.

By the same token, I blame men paying these "high class" women charging blue sky prices, letting their little head take over, and getting played instead of walking away. "I didn't get what I expected, but I'll give her a yes review anyway because I got laid...YMMV." The girls think they can continue to charge and get away with it, and the guys continue to be suckers.

Anyway, that's my take.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by BigOffshoreDaddy

My biggest thing is ROI.

If I'm spending 4, 5, 6, 700 it more with a provider, I better get getting what I'm paying for. As I've heard it said "To much is given, much is expected." A provider charging premium prices with a limited menu - and we've all seen it - is nothing more than a high priced version you can get from LC for 200 with the same list of nos.

This right here...

This is why I've always advertised and marketed the way I have. Prior to hobby life, I had a background in sales. I've always had the mantra "Under promise and over deliver" drilled into my head since early adulthood.

I've always advertised at my real age.
I've always advertised at my actual weight.
I've always advertised at a slightly lower than market rate.

In an industry where its pretty typical for ladies to shave a few years and a few (or more) pounds.. I've always been able to make the gents happy with how young I look for being ____ and how good I look for weighing ____ and what a great value I am for only charging _____.

My way isn't the way for everyone. But I'm not an overwhelmingly glamorous person by nature. I just can't fit that mold. So, better to just keep on being the cute soccer mom rather than trying too hard to be something I'm not in order to try to achieve some unrealistic version of myself just to charge a few bucks more.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by BigOffshoreDaddy

My biggest thing is ROI.

If I'm spending 4, 5, 6, 700 it more with a provider, I better get getting what I'm paying for. As I've heard it said "To much is given, much is expected." A provider charging premium prices with a limited menu - and we've all seen it - is nothing more than a high priced version you can get from LC for 200 with the same list of nos.

By the same token, I blame men paying these "high class" women charging blue sky prices, letting their little head take over, and getting played instead of walking away. "I didn't get what I expected, but I'll give her a yes review anyway because I got laid...YMMV." The girls think they can continue to charge and get away with it, and the guys continue to be suckers.

Anyway, that's my take.

100%

This goes off what I have said previously in this thread. Providers have been led to believe that they can ask for and better get top dollar for average to below average service. Hobbyists have allowed it by not speaking up and many just "go with the flow" to not make waves. I would rather let a provider know what I like in a session I pay for and be labeled as hard to please then set an appointment because she has pretty pics and expect her to read my mind or just take "go with the flow" as a hope for the best scenario for a session I pay for.

I know the boards are for trolling and insulting others to make those who do seem feel better about themselves with no consequences and even encouragements from the peanut gallery for doing so, but the boards are suppose to be for honest intel and experiences based on a paying hobbyist's is when dealing with and seeing BCD a PPM provider who advertises herself in at least one form or fashion, to those hobbyists.


As far as what other guys are paying, I could care less as one thing is for sure, you will not see me paying super premium prices for ANY provider (magazine models and in shape providers included) for just a one hour meet, as you said, it is the ROI. And especially not for fatties, my shit don't stink attitudes and last but certainly not least, service that I would be better served jacking to porn on the internet for free.

[SS2018]

You can thank highly filtered pics and overly embellished reviews. Saw two 400 girls in the Dallas area and I was completely disappointed by looks and service. Back in the day, Madison May, Alexis Ford, and Jane Smith were 250 with looks and services that was top notch.

The hobby scene has really gone downhill.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by SS2018

You can thank highly filtered pics and overly embellished reviews. Saw two 400 girls in the Dallas area and I was completely disappointed by looks and service. Back in the day, Madison May, Alexis Ford, and Jane Smith were 250 with looks and services that was top notch.

The hobby scene has really gone downhill.

And instead of reviewing and/or providing intel about your experiences plays into the hands of go along to get along. So, it is your own fault for putting up with that crap and keeping silent so the providers can do the same to others in the future thinking it is okay.

The reasons guys have so many haters on these boards are not for what you think, rather, they have their own opinion and report shitty attitudes and service regardless of consequences of what the popular crowd thinks and says.

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

And instead of reviewing and/or providing intel about your experiences plays into the hands of go along to get along. So, it is your own fault for putting up with that crap and keeping silent so the providers can do the same to others in the future thinking it is okay.

The reasons guys have so many haters on these boards are not for what you think, rather, they have their own opinion and report shitty attitudes and service regardless of consequences of what the popular crowd thinks and says.

You are rebuking someone for not posting reviews? Unlike all the ones you do. Oh, sorry one in the last 18 months is not exactly sharing a lot of intel. Yet you brag about all the providers you take to games, etc. Clearly all your encounters for many years have been great in spite of all the generic whining you do about lack of IOP, poor TCD, mechanical sex, YMMV, over priced GPS. Maybe you need to provide some examples of those poor encounters so others can avoid those gals. And maybe some of these great values you claim to find. You know, share intel

[Capital]

Originally Posted by texassapper

86,000 millionaires in Dallas.... folks can afford it.

Same number the Presbyterians say will enter Heaven. Does the Bible mention Dallas anywhere?

[Capital]

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

You are rebuking someone for not posting reviews? Unlike all the ones you do. Oh, sorry one in the last 18 months is not exactly sharing a lot of intel. Yet you brag about all the providers you take to games, etc. Clearly all your encounters for many years have been great in spite of all the generic whining you do about lack of IOP, poor TCD, mechanical sex, YMMV, over priced GPS. Maybe you need to provide some examples of those poor encounters so others can avoid those gals. And maybe some of these great values you claim to find. You know, share intel

Am I allowed to post ZING! here?

This is true, and I'm not a side-taker.

[Joe Fox]

This topic pops up from time to time. So called hobbying isn't something you really need to spend money on like a tank of gas. If you can't afford it don't do it.