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Old 08-11-2012, 09:11 AM   #16
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The more the Democrats squeal the better the choice.
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:35 AM   #17
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Is anyone here actually saying that Ryan won't wipe the floor with Biden, in an economic debate?

If so.... you must be shitting me!!
the debate is aimed at voters, not economists
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The more the Democrats squeal the better the choice.
Laughter is different than squealing!
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Another brilliant observation by don't know WTF...........
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If they had to impress economists, neither party would stand a chance!
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:50 AM   #21
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Ryan is a great choice. Conservative, smart, youthful, popular with colleagues, deficit hawk, personable, energetic, and a "noodler ".

Shows Romney will make the economy and Obama THE campgain issue.
WW are you fucking kidding me???? Senior citizens will still remember Ryan as the man who want to get rid of Medicare and give them vouchers- this was a horrible pick and will not help Romney not one iota- also do you think people will forget Ryan supports taxes for the wealthy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kgnE1Xvec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQBrCiF9gXI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVYNHeRb760 these are 3 videos where Ryan was booed for supported tax breaks to corporations
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Of course you think Ryan is a horrible pick; you worship at the altar of Obama...you have to say such stupid things...........

You do know that the VP choice has little to no bearing on how people vote, don't you ?

Videos of Ryan being booed.....your a funny guy, how about posting the video of Obama/Biden being booed at the Army/Navy football game......that is a more indicative of how patriotic Americans feel about the Slacker In Chief !.
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Clear choice now. The people can choose between substance or hype. It will be interesting to watch the process. The debates will be great.
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The Ryan pick is the clearest indication yet that Romeny and the Repubs are ready to throw in the towel in favor of scoring cheap political talking points. Does anyone really believe Paul Ryan is ready to step into the presidency if Romney decided to quit in the middle of the night as he did at Bain Capital? Does Ryan actually help bring Democrat or independents or Latinos or Asians or elderly or black voters to Romney? The only group that Ryan appeals to is certain fiscal conservatives that Romney should have had anyway. Ryan might now even loose his House seat.
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Is anyone here actually saying that Ryan won't wipe the floor with Biden, in an economic debate?
Biden who?
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Exclamation Bucket of Warm Piss

The office of the Vice President has notoriously been said to not be worth a bucket of warm piss.

However, the selection does show something about how the nominee is thinking.

Sarah Palin showed the nominee was desperate, Ryan shows Mitt Romney is just plain white bread conservative, as usual.

. . . Boring!.

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You make no substantial aqguements....your first hurdle is to prove that the VP choice actually makes a difference to voters.....all of the data, analysis, and historical trends say it doesn't....but you keep harping on somthing that isn't important....

Why is that ?

Why don't you talk about why Obama deserves a 2nd term? You can't. He doesn't. So you are left attacking Ryan.........foolish.


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You make no substantial aqguements....your first hurdle is to prove that the VP choice actually makes a difference to voters.....all of the data, analysis, and historical trends say it doesn't....but you keep harping on somthing that isn't important....

Why is that ?

Why don't you talk about why Obama deserves a 2nd term? You can't. He doesn't. So you are left attacking Ryan.........foolish.
WW I am going to explain why I believe Obama deserves a 2nd term- first let's face facts of what we already know and can't deny- when Obama stepped in office we were in a financial mess and the UE was spiraling upwards- remember the UE rate was not at his peak when he took office- so Obama took measures: Auto Bail out, TARP, stimulus etc that many Republicans were against and had he not took those measure we would have hit a depression that's fact- so I give him credit for not putting us in a Depression- the economy is moving the right way, but just slow- which is better than the economy moving the wrong way in a fast manner.
However, I truly believe and you are no one else can convince me otherwise that had the Republicans thought about it's people meaning the entire country first that UE rate would be in the 6% to 7% range had the GOP passed Obama's jobs act- there were many good job building programs in that bill- are you telling me infrastructure rebuilding is not needed in the U.S? However, the GOP blocked everything because they knew that if the jobs billed got passed- the UE rate would go down- the economy would look better and it would be harder for the GOP to defeat Obama. So when you put your party in front of the American people I have issues with that WW.
When you have people in the GOP party saying let's make Obama a one term President that is telling me you don't want to work with him one iota and you want every policy to fail. When you have a party that for 4 years wants to throw around "socialist marxist" and spend nearly 2 years about where he was born than I think Obama deserves a 2nd chance.
Oh let me not forget when you have a terrorist who was the mastermind behind one of the worst attacks on American soil- one in which one of my childhood classmates lost his live and when you have a President who from 2001 to 2008 could never capture or kill him and even goes on record saying that he's not even concerned about OBL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmFkbBjbO0 and then when our current President has him taken him out in a flawless operation than yes I think he deserves a 2nd term.
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Here is a great video of Ryan schooling Obama on why his ObamacareTax is bad policy............why it will ruin us financially !

Note how Obama looks dumbfounded; he can't follow Ryan's analysis....Obama is a empty suit...the last 3 years have proved that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPxMZ1WdINs
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What you assert as "we all know" is funny....................Obama 's policies made the UE worse...even Obama's own analysts thought UE wouldn't get higher than 8%. That we all know!

We also all know that Obama claimed the Summer of Recovery in 2009, 2010, and 2011...which was it ?

We all know Obama has driven up our debt faster than any other sitting president

We all know Obama has broken more promises than any other president.

We all know Obama pissed away billions on phony green energy deals to his cronies.

We all know the real UE rate is close to 15% and higher in the black community.

We all know Obama can't run on his accomlishments so he has to go negative on Romney.

We all know Obama's approval rates are in the tank, at 43%.

We all know Obama gets a failed grade in managing the economy.

We all know Obama is hiding somthing from the electorate in his academic records.

We all know Obama is a Marxists - member of the New Party.

We all know Obama wants to transform America !

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WW I am going to explain why I believe Obama deserves a 2nd term- first let's face facts of what we already know and can't deny- when Obama stepped in office we were in a financial mess and the UE was spiraling upwards- remember the UE rate was not at his peak when he took office- so Obama took measures: Auto Bail out, TARP, stimulus etc that many Republicans were against and had he not took those measure we would have hit a depression that's fact- so I give him credit for not putting us in a Depression- the economy is moving the right way, but just slow- which is better than the economy moving the wrong way in a fast manner.
However, I truly believe and you are no one else can convince me otherwise that had the Republicans thought about it's people meaning the entire country first that UE rate would be in the 6% to 7% range had the GOP passed Obama's jobs act- there were many good job building programs in that bill- are you telling me infrastructure rebuilding is not needed in the U.S? However, the GOP blocked everything because they knew that if the jobs billed got passed- the UE rate would go down- the economy would look better and it would be harder for the GOP to defeat Obama. So when you put your party in front of the American people I have issues with that WW.
When you have people in the GOP party saying let's make Obama a one term President that is telling me you don't want to work with him one iota and you want every policy to fail. When you have a party that for 4 years wants to throw around "socialist marxist" and spend nearly 2 years about where he was born than I think Obama deserves a 2nd chance.
Oh let me not forget when you have a terrorist who was the mastermind behind one of the worst attacks on American soil- one in which one of my childhood classmates lost his live and when you have a President who from 2001 to 2008 could never capture or kill him and even goes on record saying that he's not even concerned about OBL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmFkbBjbO0 and then when our current President has him taken him out in a flawless operation than yes I think he deserves a 2nd term.
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