Trump Re-elected! I'm calling it!

[pussycat]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Jobs have increased for each month for many, many years, dating back to the beginning of the end of the recession in about 2010-2011. So it's no big news to say jobs increased in a specific month. It is estimated that job growth should be at least 150,000 in an expanding economy. Unemployment actually rose last month to 3.6%. Delaying the recession? The fact that you are expecting a recession at some point in the not too distant future is not good news, delayed or not

There have been some progress on immigration under Trump which is why I don't give him an "F". Just because someone comes up to our borders and asks for asylum does not mean that person should be granted asylum. Trump just approved a plan limiting refugees to 18,000 in 2020. This year it was 30,000. Under Obama it was 85,000. Trump has made it very clear who he wants to enter our country -- white, educated, English-speaking people with high-level job skills. Forget our country's long history of accepting those who REALLY need what our country can offer. Then we can move on to Trump's travel bans, which have discriminated against Muslims. Then we can talk about "the wall" which most people in this country oppose and when Trump could not get funding through Congress, he went through the back door and "stole" money from funded projects in order to fund the wall. A wall that people can cut through with a simple reciprocating saw.

I am slightly to the left of center politically. I am not Socialist and most definitely not Marxist. I believe in the balance of power in the federal government and do not like it when the POTUS, the House and the Senate are controlled by one party. The only socialistic policy I see being pushed by those on the "far left" (Sanders or Warren) is Medicare For All. IF it was financially feasible I would support it 100%. No one is close to pushing for government takeover of private business which is REAL socialism. This is simply fear-mongering by Trump and his supporters.

In 2010 employment had no where to go but up. But when you have unemployment at a fifty year low and you are still creating even more jobs that's amazing.

The way this came about though is destructive, in my opinion. It's happening by delaying an otherwise inevitable recession because of running huge deficits and stimulating the economy with tax cuts and low interest rates.

I point it out because the Fed is the author of this policy, and the reason is that they are pulling out all the stops to prevent Warren or the other Dems from being elected.

Unlike Hilary and Obama, Trump was not the darling of Wall Street, and Wall Street did not previously support him -- they supported Hilary.

But now that Warren and Buttigieg are the alternatives Wall Street is delaying the recession so Trump will be elected again.

And that is why I've made this prediction.

Because if the recession came now Trump would lose.

[Dev Null]

I wouldn't be so quick to write off Biden since there will still be superdelegates at play. It's not lost on the Democrats that the race will not be won by them or Trump's base, but by independent swing voters. The more moderate candidate will have more power in peeling off independents who voted for Trump last time. Trump fatigue may be enough to swing the vote to more progressive candidates, but the best bet is the middle of the road if you don't want another November surprise.

[Dr Hackenbush]

Sorry you need to do the math. It doesn't lie. If only 50% of the voters that voted for trump because they didn't like Hillary, and 50 % that stayed home because they couldn't stand either. He will lose in a landslide. His staunch followers are not large in numbers.

[Dr Hackenbush]

Originally Posted by Dev Null

I wouldn't be so quick to write off Biden since there will still be superdelegates at play. It's not lost on the Democrats that the race will not be won by them or Trump's base, but by independent swing voters. The more moderate candidate will have more power in peeling off independents who voted for Trump last time. Trump fatigue may be enough to swing the vote to more progressive candidates, but the best bet is the middle of the road if you don't want another November surprise.

Add to the fact the the middle cases is getting tired of his vitrol. He never talks issues just fake news impeachment is a scam. Where is the healthcare and infrastructure he promised.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by pussycat

In 2010 employment had no where to go but up. But when you have unemployment at a fifty year low and you are still creating even more jobs that's amazing.

The way this came about though is destructive, in my opinion. It's happening by delaying an otherwise inevitable recession because of running huge deficits and stimulating the economy with tax cuts and low interest rates.

I point it out because the Fed is the author of this policy, and the reason is that they are pulling out all the stops to prevent Warren or the other Dems from being elected.

Unlike Hilary and Obama, Trump was not the darling of Wall Street, and Wall Street did not previously support him -- they supported Hilary.

But now that Warren and Buttigieg are the alternatives Wall Street is delaying the recession so Trump will be elected again.

And that is why I've made this prediction.

Because if the recession came now Trump would lose.

As far as job creation, I fully agree that comparing economic conditions when Obama took office vs. the when Trump took office is comparing apples and oranges.

The day Trump was elected, not the day he was inaugurated, the markets started an upward surge. They knew Trump was their darling and would push for a major tax break for corporations, which I supported although not to the decrease in rates that Trump gave them, and would ease regulations through Executive Orders. Obama was hardly the darling of Wall Street.

I respect your opinion that Trump will win in 2020. I am hoping you are wrong but with almost a year to go before we hit the polls, a lot can happen, both positive and negative on both sides.

The 2018 midterms and the results from yesterday are positives for Democratic hopes. Voters from the suburbs, who supported Trump heavily in 2016, have voted Democratic in the last 2 elections. I know the argument is "Trump wasn't on the ballot." We shall see.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Dr Hackenbush

Sorry you need to do the math. It doesn't lie. If only 50% of the voters that voted for trump because they didn't like Hillary, and 50 % that stayed home because they couldn't stand either. He will lose in a landslide. His staunch followers are not large in numbers.

There was an interesting analysis I read today. The primary voting sector that Trump owns is older white men without a college education. Many voted for Trump in 2016 and the analysis shows that this sector is huge and if Trump can get a greater turnout from this group, his odds of winning are increased.

My opinion is that if the turnout Democrats had in 2018 and 2019 compared to Republican turnout is equaled in 2020, Trump is in deep trouble. Remember -- the election depends on 4 or 5 states -- Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona for certain. Maybe Florida, NC, and Georgia will also be in the mix. Trump is very aware of that fact and will be campaigning hard in the next year in those states.

[nuglet]

Trump will do whatever his handlers tell him to do.. He doesn't have a clue what to say or who to say it to.. I do enjoy watching his speeches though. He stumbles from one insult to another and clearly enjoys lying and making up facts... he's a hoot. I just think of it as light entertainment for the clueless.

[Austin Ellen]

We shall see. But remember - you heard it here first - Trump 2020.

[Dr Hackenbush]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

We shall see. But remember - you heard it here first - Trump 2020.

Is that the Russian honey pot that was sleeping with the nra senior leaders

[pussycat]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

There was an interesting analysis I read today. The primary voting sector that Trump owns is older white men without a college education. Many voted for Trump in 2016 and the analysis shows that this sector is huge and if Trump can get a greater turnout from this group, his odds of winning are increased.

My opinion is that if the turnout Democrats had in 2018 and 2019 compared to Republican turnout is equaled in 2020, Trump is in deep trouble. Remember -- the election depends on 4 or 5 states -- Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona for certain. Maybe Florida, NC, and Georgia will also be in the mix. Trump is very aware of that fact and will be campaigning hard in the next year in those states.

The Democrats' "strategy" is to taint Trump by the Impeachment, but this won't work. As the Impeachment goes forward the public will see that there is nothing to the charges and many people will see the Impeachment as a rank obscenity. The facts are that it doesn't matter what Trump's motives were in his singular phone call to the President of Ukraine. Just like the Trump Tower meeting with a Russian, nothing came of it. It might show that Trump would like to have dirt from Russia or to leverage aid, but in both cases these things didn't actually happen. Ukraine got the aid, and they didn't pursue an investigation. Whatever "quid pro quo" might have been vaguely somehow intended, it didn't actually happen.

Turnout in the 2018 and 2019 elections are not instructive for the Presidential race. Trump's people will turn out in droves, and the Democrats will not have anyone who will motivate all but pinko Communists to show up at the polls.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by pussycat

The Democrats' "strategy" is to taint Trump by the Impeachment, but this won't work. As the Impeachment goes forward the public will see that there is nothing to the charges and many people will see the Impeachment as a rank obscenity. The facts are that it doesn't matter what Trump's motives were in his singular phone call to the President of Ukraine. Just like the Trump Tower meeting with a Russian, nothing came of it. It might show that Trump would like to have dirt from Russia or to leverage aid, but in both cases these things didn't actually happen. Ukraine got the aid, and they didn't pursue an investigation. Whatever "quid pro quo" might have been vaguely somehow intended, it didn't actually happen.

Turnout in the 2018 and 2019 elections are not instructive for the Presidential race. Trump's people will turn out in droves, and the Democrats will not have anyone who will motivate all but pinko Communists to show up at the polls.

I disagree.

First, I think that anyone coming forward, whether in the public
or private sector, making claims of impropriety against another person, should be taken seriously and investigated.

If, and I stress the word "if", Trump told the President of the Ukraine that he would not receive funds allocated to the country by Congress unless he investigated the possibility that Biden, Trump's current leading contender in the 2020 POTUS election, did something illegal by withholding funds from the Ukraine in 2016, then that is considered by most to be a violation of Trump's oath of office.

If true, this is quid pro quo. You do something for me and I'll do something for you. Unfortunately for Trump, he had no right to do what he did. Again, it has to be proven.

I can guarantee you that Trump supporters turn out for any election that impacts Trump. What the last 2 elections have shown (2018 midterms and recent 2019 elections) is that Democrats are coming out in droves to vote against Republican candidates. I believe that will continue in 2020. Whether it will impact the few battleground states is yet to be seen.

In 2016, Trump won in several battleground states due to the votes of women supporters, especially in the suburbs. Everything points to him losing support among women and the suburbs.

"Trump approval among women hits lowest point in more than a year"

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/46...more-year-poll

[BlisswithKriss]

Originally Posted by pussycat

I predicted that Trump would be the Nominee and that he would defeat Hilary. I didn't even think it would be as close as it was.

With that said I can positively say that there is almost no way Trump will not win re-election. These are the reasons.

1.The Impeachment process will backfire on the Democrats and motivate the legions of people in the Midwest who voted for him but then had remorse to vote for him again.

2.The Impeachment process has fired up his base even more.

3.He will not start any new wars with Iran or anyone else.

4.There will not be a recession until after the election. This is the most important part, and it's tricky.

As long as there's high employment and rising wages it's near impossible to turn out a sitting President. The problem is that the current expansion has been going on for so long that everyone expects a downturn just around the corner. To stave this off the Fed has been lowering interest rates over and over. The Fed Chairman said yesterday he realizes that lowering interest rates may not be enough to continue postponing a downturn, but it's the only tool the Fed has and they are going to use it. Note he's not saying he's trying for a "soft landing" from the present expansion -- he's trying to postpone it. Why? BECAUSE THE FED DOESN'T WANT ELIZABETH WARREN AS PRESIDENT STUPID.

The Fed wants Trump re-elected because all the Democrats running are Marxists pretending to be "democratic socialists" who will absolutely destroy the American economy with high taxes, insane regulation, another round of more wars. They will open the borders to anyone who wants to invite themselves in and then pay for their heart transplants and cancer treatments.

When you have the Fed on your side as a candidate, and all that the Fed represents, well that says you probably will not lose.

Yeah and You aren’t the only one vying for Trumps re-election. Trump loves dictators and FYI Trump is a very valuable asset...aka a “Useful Idiot” to the Russians. old Vlad Putin is right with you. He wants Trump re-elected too. So he can further destabilize the west. What I’d love to know is what exactly has Putin got on Trump. I’m sure it revolves around money, but what else? As Pelosi recently said..”all roads lead to Putin” so why is Trump so madly in love with Russia. Maybe it’s the only conduit for him to borrow Money in order to keep his house of cards running. After all he has gone bankrupt 6 times. No wonder US banks run away from The Trump Crime family. I would too. I like to be paid but Don the Con has a nasty habit of NOT paying his bills.

[Austin Ellen]

Heehee. I love when these folks get triggered. Sugar Tits - you are out of your league.

Originally Posted by BlisswithKriss

Yeah and You aren’t the only one vying for Trumps re-election. Trump loves dictators and FYI Trump is a very valuable asset...aka a “Useful Idiot” to the Russians. old Vlad Putin is right with you. He wants Trump re-elected too. So he can further destabilize the west. What I’d love to know is what exactly has Putin got on Trump. I’m sure it revolves around money, but what else? As Pelosi recently said..”all roads lead to Putin” so why is Trump so madly in love with Russia. Maybe it’s the only conduit for him to borrow Money in order to keep his house of cards running. After all he has gone bankrupt 6 times. No wonder US banks run away from The Trump Crime family. I would too. I like to be paid but Don the Con has a nasty habit of NOT paying his bills.

[Austin Ellen]

Who are you calling cupcake? Pussycat? That's a guy. The more you know.




QUOTE=BlisswithKriss;106186093 9]Yeah and You aren’t the only one vying for Trumps re-election. Trump loves dictators and FYI Trump is a very valuable asset...aka a “Useful Idiot” to the Russians. old Vlad Putin is right with you. He wants Trump re-elected too. So he can further destabilize the west. What I’d love to know is what exactly has Putin got on Trump. I’m sure it revolves around money, but what else? As Pelosi recently said..”all roads lead to Putin” so why is Trump so madly in love with Russia. Maybe it’s the only conduit for him to borrow Money in order to keep his house of cards running. After all he has gone bankrupt 6 times. No wonder US banks run away from The Trump Crime family. I would too. I like to be paid but Don the Con has a nasty habit of NOT paying his bills.[/QUOTE]

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Who are you calling cupcake? Pussycat? That's a guy. The more you know.

"..."

So? If a guy named Precious sees nothing wrong with addressing a guy as a pastery (sp), what to know?