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i'va biggen · 08-31-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

Yeah I'll be there, lol. That whole incident could have been prevented, being that Chris Hurst, Allison's boyfriend has psychic abilities. At 06:34 he posted her death on his Twitter account. The first shot didn't ring out until 06:46. Go figure that one out.

Jim

Prob different time zones between where Twitter's account is and VA.

Mr MojoRisin · 08-31-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Prob different time zones between where Twitter's account is and VA.

No, I don't think so.

Jim

IIFFOFRDB · 08-31-2015, 12:32 PM

SpeedRacerXXX · 08-31-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

In the S.C. killings, the first thing I read from the Conservative side was gun free zones don't work. Let's face it, people on both sides of the aisle use such tragedies to support their points of view. But yes, I believe racism came into play. Do you disagree? I reread the first 6-7 pages (I got bored after that) of this thread and could not find one person here who blamed the Va. killings on lax gun control laws. I read a lot about the mental state of the shooter. Maybe you can give us some examples of people who have put the PRIMARY blame on guns.

JD Barleycorn · 08-31-2015, 01:40 PM

Nice of you to qualify your claim. "Primary" cause of the shooting...only the most idiotic, die hards deny that the shooter had some responsibility but will still go after the guns first. The proof is in the laws suggested that all had as a component firearm restrictions and not mental restrictions.

Obama
Hillary
Al Sharpton
Jesse Jackson
Louis Farrakhan
Bernie Sanders

but who's counting?

As for gun free zones...they don't work. We become aware of them when they fail don't we? No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was gun free. Criminals and suicide shooters don't care about the rules.

i'va biggen · 08-31-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

No, I don't think so.

Jim

Twitter is based in SanFran it is posted there time..............

Mr MojoRisin · 08-31-2015, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Twitter is based in SanFran it is posted there time..............

It came from Hurst's computer based in Virginia. He's the sender it's based on his time.

Jim

WombRaider · 08-31-2015, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

It came from Hurst's computer based in Virginia. He's the sender it's based on his time.

Jim

No, it's not and this is easily discovered. The time shown on twitter is shown in the viewer's time zone. He tweeted that at 9:34 his time. The 6:34 is from a west coast viewer's twitter feed, because that's what time it was in california.

Go look here, same tweet with the time of 8:34, because that's what time it was in the time zone the viewer was viewing it in. This is common knowledge, not sure why people are freaking out.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2015/08/26/...rter-virginia/

WombRaider · 08-31-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Nice of you to qualify your claim. "Primary" cause of the shooting...only the most idiotic, die hards deny that the shooter had some responsibility but will still go after the guns first. The proof is in the laws suggested that all had as a component firearm restrictions and not mental restrictions.

Obama
Hillary
Al Sharpton
Jesse Jackson
Louis Farrakhan
Bernie Sanders

but who's counting?

As for gun free zones...they don't work. We become aware of them when they fail don't we? No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was gun free. Criminals and suicide shooters don't care about the rules.

No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was full of guns either. Or have you forgotten the muslim who shot up a military base.

JD Barleycorn · 08-31-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WombRaider

No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was full of guns either. Or have you forgotten the muslim who shot up a military base.

A church in Colorado where a parish member was armed.
A shopping mall where an off duty auxiliary cop was armed.
The cartoon contest in Texas where the police were ready.
You know I can go on but to what point. You're just come with some stupid reason why it doesn't count. Anyway, only one is needed as an example and disproves what you believe.

Hard to believe, but military bases are gun free zones. Particularly the exchange.

Budman · 08-31-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WombRaider

No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was full of guns either. Or have you forgotten the muslim who shot up a military base.

Bullshit. Plenty of crimes have been averted because of guns. Sometimes all it takes is the fear that some of the potential victims may be better armed than the criminal. If you are a criminal I bet you would prefer your victim be as helpless as possible.

SpeedRacerXXX · 08-31-2015, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

As for gun free zones...they don't work. We become aware of them when they fail don't we? No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was gun free. Criminals and suicide shooters don't care about the rules.

There are probably tens of thousands of gun free zones in the U.S. that WORK every day of the year. Schools. Homes. Work places. Banks. etc.

We only hear about gun free zones in those RARE instances when they don't work.
Prove to me that ANY of the sites of mass killings were chosen because they were gun free zones. Bet you can't. Pure conjecture. On the other hand, just about every mass killing in a gun free zone can be explained as to why the killer chose the site, and it had NOTHING to do with it being a gun free zone. As I said, feel free to present PROOF to the contrary, not opinion.

You also conveniently forget. I pointed out a murder that happened in NE Austin a few years back. Two guys get into an argument in a strip club which was a gun free zone. They went outside at which time one of the two went into his vehicle, got his gun, and killed the other guy. GUN FREE ZONE WORKED!! The only time we hear about a gun free zone working is when someone is immediately killed after leaving the gun free zone, which is rare. So your statement that no crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was gun free is 100% WRONG.

i'va biggen · 08-31-2015, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Nice of you to qualify your claim. "Primary" cause of the shooting...only the most idiotic, die hards deny that the shooter had some responsibility but will still go after the guns first. The proof is in the laws suggested that all had as a component firearm restrictions and not mental restrictions.

Obama
Hillary
Al Sharpton
Jesse Jackson
Louis Farrakhan
Bernie Sanders

but who's counting?

As for gun free zones...they don't work. We become aware of them when they fail don't we? No crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was gun free. Criminals and suicide shooters don't care about the rules.

How about She's a pistol? That wasn't a gun free zone.

goodolboy · 08-31-2015, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

There are probably tens of thousands of gun free zones in the U.S. that WORK every day of the year. Schools. Homes. Work places. Banks. etc.

We only hear about gun free zones in those RARE instances when they don't work.
Prove to me that ANY of the sites of mass killings were chosen because they were gun free zones. Bet you can't. Pure conjecture. On the other hand, just about every mass killing in a gun free zone can be explained as to why the killer chose the site, and it had NOTHING to do with it being a gun free zone. As I said, feel free to present PROOF to the contrary, not opinion.

You also conveniently forget. I pointed out a murder that happened in NE Austin a few years back. Two guys get into an argument in a strip club which was a gun free zone. They went outside at which time one of the two went into his vehicle, got his gun, and killed the other guy. GUN FREE ZONE WORKED!! The only time we hear about a gun free zone working is when someone is immediately killed after leaving the gun free zone, which is rare. So your statement that no crime has ever been averted because the killing zone was gun free is 100% WRONG.

So how does that work exactly? I assume the armed perp walks up to the establishment intent on murder, see's the gun free zone sign and leaves for fear of "breaking the law" and getting in trouble?

WombRaider · 08-31-2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Budman

Bullshit. Plenty of crimes have been averted because of guns. Sometimes all it takes is the fear that some of the potential victims may be better armed than the criminal. If you are a criminal I bet you would prefer your victim be as helpless as possible.

Again, would you care to provide any information backing this up? You thinking it's true, doesn't make it so. Fear has obviously not stopped anyone, as crime rates continue to hold steady. I'm not a criminal. Don't know how they think.